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04-12-2012, 04:17 PM
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Well probably my only time proposing and I don't care if I get bashed or what not.
I saw Luke Adam struggling with just 3 goals in 25 games in the AHL, and Colborne struggling in the 2nd half and was thinking change of scenery for both players.

To Sabres:
Joe Colborne

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Luke Adam

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04-12-2012, 04:39 PM
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Colborne is our future 3rd line C. He won't be traded for Luke Adam.

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Interesting but I'm not sure either team would be willing to take the risk.

Colborne has more size but am I correct in saying that Adam plays more physical?

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Wow Swag you sure are ignorant! I doubt you know who luke adam even is yet you think your player is that much better? Just FYI Luke Adam made the NHL club out of camp and started the season centering the first line, and was doing great until he got 'ruffed

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Colborne is our future 3rd line C. He won't be traded for Luke Adam.
What?

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Not sure about the exact stats but adam has some size too. He plays a physical (mostly) smart game....could end up between a 2 or 3c if he can work on consistancy and his defensive game.

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Wow Swag you sure are ignorant! I doubt you know who luke adam even is yet you think your player is that much better? Just FYI Luke Adam made the NHL club out of camp and started the season centering the first line, and was doing great until he got 'ruffed
Not ignorant, just slightly delusional.

Good for the guy, they should keep him and hope he pans out. (which is what Leafs will do with Colborne)

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Not sure about the exact stats but adam has some size too. He plays a physical (mostly) smart game....could end up between a 2 or 3c if he can work on consistancy and his defensive game.
Colborne is 6ft5 so he's bigger. He's a playmaking C who uses his body effectively *NOTE: Not physical* to shield the puck and make passes. He is high risk though, he could eventually be a low end #1 60-70PT player, or an offensive 3c.

From what I hear about Adam, he's a safer bet to be a solid 2nd line guy.

I think the Leafs would prefer to take the risk on our only C with imposing size, but it's not a horrible proposal.

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I'd do this trade. Adam's no slouch but adding a pure center to the system is good for a franchise that doesn't have many.

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Colborne is 6ft5 so he's bigger. He's a playmaking C who uses his body effectively *NOTE: Not physical* to shield the puck and make passes. He is high risk though, he could eventually be a low end #1 60-70PT player, or an offensive 3c.

From what I hear about Adam, he's a safer bet to be a solid 2nd line guy.

I think the Leafs would prefer to take the risk on our only size with imposing size, but it's not a horrible proposal.
I'd say this is a fair assessment.

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It's not awful value. Luke completely lost his confidence when he was demoted to the 4th line and didn't have Vanek-Pominville carrying him anymore. Still, I think he can bounce back and ultimately make it as an average 2nd line winger. (Personally, I don't think he'll ever hack it at center.) Colborne, though, has never been able to dominate at the AHL level despite great size and a good skill set.

I think I'd rather use Adam as a secondary piece in a bigger deal, so pass.

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sounds like a pretty good move from both sides imho ... but at the same time im sure both teams are happy with their respective prospects

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Done.I am not as high on Adam as most Sabre fans, he has no place in the bottom 6 as he isn't physical enough, but his offense isn't good enough for the top 6, so pretty much he is a tweener forward.

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Wow Swag you sure are ignorant! I doubt you know who luke adam even is yet you think your player is that much better? Just FYI Luke Adam made the NHL club out of camp and started the season centering the first line, and was doing great until he got 'ruffed
Adam was riding Vanek's and Pominville's coattails, nothing more. The reason Adam struggled wasn't because of Ruff, it was because of Adam. He simply wasn't ready.

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Adam was riding Vanek's and Pominville's coattails, nothing more. The reason Adam struggled wasn't because of Ruff, it was because of Adam. He simply wasn't ready.
He was doing a good job contributing on the first line....better then chewey and roy IMO. As to what happened? Ruff took his confidence out back shot it then tossed the remains off a cliff...

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Nope

Colborne>Adam

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Colborne is bigger. Adam is 6'2", but he probably plays with a bit more sandpaper in his game than Colborne (still learning how to use his size).

Adam is a former 2nd rounder who blossomed in the minors - was AHL rookie of the year, seems to have a bright future.

Colborne probably has a little more upside, but Adam is a bit more proven.

TBH, I'd rather swing for the fences with Colborne. You know what you get with Adam - a steady player who can slot in your 2nd line. Doesn't have the greatest hands, but won't hurt you either. Also, he fell off a cliff at the end of last season.

Colborne might not end up being much better (or may end up being worse), but if he has any possibility of panning out as a #1, the Leafs should keep him.

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I'd do it, Colborne is to soft and not good enough defensively to be centring the 3rd line. His potential is well above Adam, but Adam is almost a lock to make an NHL team. Im not too high on Colborne so this is definitely something i'd consider.

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