I like a lot of what Kessel brings but he may be the weakest defensive player in the League. Hopefully Carlyle corrects that.
He'll get better, he just broke out and he hasn't even reached prime yet. To be honest I'd rather see him reach the 100 point barrier, he was only 18 points shy of it with Bozak as his center. I'm sure the papers would find something to complain about though.
Life would be easier if one of our prospects can turn into a Zetterberg and Datsyuk next season, with Gardiner being Lidstrom. Reimer can act as an Osgoode getting the job done. I guess Phaneuf can be a 6 million dollar Kronwal.
Kessel is a potential UFA in 2 years and has the right to walk away at that time leaving the Leafs with nothing in return should that occur.
Rick Nash is guaranteed because of his contract status to give the Leafs 6 years of service minimum in return in the exchange.
So if some one asked would you rather have 2 years of Kessel or 6 years of Nash guaranteed, what would be the answer?
Besides when Kessel's deal expires, he will be asking for Nash like money so all financial/cap gain at that point would be irrelevant to the discussion of savings so its just the next couple of years where it would effect the teams cap situation.
I'd just sign Kessel because he's better and younger. Oh and he's cheaper for the next two seasons so we would be saving.
I don't have any playoff data from Kessel with the Leafs so I guess we are at a standstill.
Try and weasel your way around everything don't you! Teams win cups, Seguin did not win the cup! He's lucky to have a ring! Like i said if Kessel was on that team he'd have a cup! My 85 yr old mother on that team would have a cup! Thomas is the reason for the Cup!!!!!
He'll get better, he just broke out and he hasn't even reached prime yet. To be honest I'd rather see him reach the 100 point barrier, he was only 18 points shy of it with Bozak as his center. I'm sure the papers would find something to complain about though.
I'm certain he will once they are a better Team. Seems the 2nd half of the season they would be down early, much tougher to score when playing catch up.
Try and weasel your way around everything don't you! Teams win cups, Seguin did not win the cup! He's lucky to have a ring! Like i said if Kessel was on that team he'd have a cup! My 85 yr old mother on that team would have a cup! Thomas is the reason for the Cup!!!!!
Well Seguin is the youngest player to lead the Bruins in scoring since 1928. He's a stud and is going to be better than Kessel and that doesn't include the other two assets that Boston got in the trade. Seguin is also a center which the Leafs are still looking for after four years. The trade was a landslide win for Boston. Landslide.
Yeah, he puts up ~35/50 as a 20 year old, puts up ~35/82 while he's still under 25, and is worth less. Logic all over the place.
The player he was traded for put up 29 goals 67 points and lead his team in scoring as a 19 year old..
When Kessel was age 19 he recorded 19-18-37 points in 82 games on the same team.
There is already a +30 point differential when compared at equal ages to what it cost to acquire him (which is just 1 of 3 pieces).
No one argues that his value and point production has not increased over time with age, that doesn't mean you can get more in exchange however than the cost you paid to acquire him.
Would Boston even deal Seguin for Kessel straight up today, knowing there is 4+ years difference in age and Sequin is already trending at a much higher rate during his development?
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Well Seguin is the youngest player to lead the Bruins in scoring since 1928. He's a stud and is going to be better than Kessel and that doesn't include the other two assets that Boston got in the trade. Seguin is also a center which the Leafs are still looking for after four years. The trade was a landslide win for Boston. Landslide.
I think your crystal ball maybe cracked there buddy! So far the Leafs got the best player in the deal!!..Landslide win for the Leafs. Keep crying about the picks.
Well Seguin is the youngest player to lead the Bruins in scoring since 1928. He's a stud and is going to be better than Kessel and that doesn't include the other two assets that Boston got in the trade. Seguin is also a center which the Leafs are still looking for after four years. The trade was a landslide win for Boston. Landslide.
Yeah, it was a bad trade. Most everyone agrees that Burke gave up too much for Kessel. Can we stop bringing it up every time there's a discussion about him?
Would I? Yes. Is it likely? No. Why? Because I'd probably want only a handful of other players ahead of him, and those players are unlikely to be dealt.
He's not a main piece to a championship team but would be an excellent complimentary player. With that said I would trade him if it meant bringing int a top elite talent in the league but I wouldn't just give him away. He's still our best player and I wouldn't want to trade him just for the sake of making a move whether it's for a lot of picks or a lateral move at best.
Quick, Pietrangelo and Rinne look great in a system that employs the trap. They wouldn't look nearly as good playing for Toronto.
Spezza is overpaid and puts up the same type of numbers as Kessel.
Kessel is much better than Seguin at the moment.. that COULD change in a few years but it's far from a lock.
If you wouldn't trade Kessel For Pietrangelo in a nannecond I think you're nuts.
22 years old. 25 min a night #1 dman and likely perennial Norris nominiee.
Had 51 points this year too.
Those are the only guys I would trade Kessel for. I dont care if someone offered us 5 firsts, if we were to trade Kessel it would be for a better player
If you wouldn't trade Kessel For Pietrangelo in a nannecond I think you're nuts.
22 years old. 25 min a night #1 dman and likely perennial Norris nominiee.
Had 51 points this year too.
Need to watch more hockey if you dont' think Petrangelo is a bigger piece then Kessel.
If Kessel doesn't re-sign as he will be a UFA, and has a right to test free agency, without Leafs preventing it, then what?
Therefore its Kessel that is holding the trump card when it comes to re-signing, not you or the Leafs organization here.
True he could walk but 99.9% of the time elite players re-sign with the same team they're already playing with. I'll take my chances because they are excellent, plus Kessel likes being here, is the better value right now and he is younger and more dynamic then Nash is.
