Smyth is a bit of an egomaniac IMO. I will always appreciate what he has done for the Oilers over the years but i don't understand why he would demand to be traded here and now become an annoyance to sign YET AGAIN.
He's rich beyond his wildest dreams and he's playing in the city that he loves, why doesn't he just buck up and sign the contract if not then just move on, it's always drama between him and Oilers management. He should realize that he's not a top 6 player anymore and take whatever contract he can get here (i can't imagine that it's too much of a lowball).
I honestly don't think that his ego will allow him to take a paycut and a reduced role with the team. I'm just speculating here so don't kill me too much for it but i'm starting to think that he might have been a part of the locker room trouble that the team was going through towards the end of the year maybe due to being demoted to the 3rd line. Suck it up Ryan, you're not the same player that you were even 2 years ago, sign a short term deal play in the bottom 6 and be the leader that you are capable of being.
Its partly circumstantial. Smyth has been here up this alley before with the club paying more for the services of his linemates, Horc, and Hemsky, than they offer him.
I don't know that Smyth needs the money, but it probably dawns on him that two players that put up consistent cluster**** seasons are getting paid a whole lot more money.
I'm thinking thats a problem. No easy solution.
I can imagine its a lot of a lowball. The team offering 2.5M wouldn't surprise me. This is the same club that pays goofballs like Eager, Barker, Brule, Omark, Potter, Khabi, to be completely useless and unliked hockey players.
Smyth is a bit of an egomaniac IMO. I will always appreciate what he has done for the Oilers over the years but i don't understand why he would demand to be traded here and now become an annoyance to sign YET AGAIN.
He's rich beyond his wildest dreams and he's playing in the city that he loves, why doesn't he just buck up and sign the contract if not then just move on, it's always drama between him and Oilers management. He should realize that he's not a top 6 player anymore and take whatever contract he can get here (i can't imagine that it's too much of a lowball).
I honestly don't think that his ego will allow him to take a paycut and a reduced role with the team. I'm just speculating here so don't kill me too much for it but i'm starting to think that he might have been a part of the locker room trouble that the team was going through towards the end of the year maybe due to being demoted to the 3rd line. Suck it up Ryan, you're not the same player that you were even 2 years ago, sign a short term deal play in the bottom 6 and be the leader that you are capable of being.
All of this.
Smyth can sit around all summer as far as I'm concerned and come crawling back to us in August/September. Or... if he prefers he can sign with Calgary.
Tambellini has made a lot of piss poor signings (and I despise the man) but I can't blame him for sitting tight here.
Smyth would need to reinvent his game completely post Yakupov....
I am all for it...but is he?
No more coasting and potting garbage goals....he will have to be a 200 ft energy player and play in the bottom six...and preferably be thankful for it.
Apparently you didn't watch the Oiler games nor were you aware of the role that Smyth played.
Early on he was playing in a scoring top six role, but for a majority of the season he was in a checking line role. He didn't get top line PP, instead he was the first Penalty killing unit and he faced the toughest opposition on a majority of defensive zone draws.
I'm fine if Smyth leaves but that just means he needs to be replaced by a capable winger who can defend and attack. That's a player that the oilers need MORE of, not less. Honestly what game are some of you people watching out there?
im not too concerned about cap hit (although i would prefer to keep it under 2M) but if we sign him for more than a year i will be upset. could be a disaster. hes not very good.
I would sign Smyth for one year with the expectation of him playing the same role. But I would be grooming Paajarvi to take his place, I can see Paajarvi being a bigger version of Radek Dvorak.
Two year deal, and I'd be willing to offer 3 million to stick around and be a leader to the kids. I don't care about his production, as much as his leadership. If it's comes down to money like last time we traded him, I say sayonara. If it comes to that it's hard to believe that he wanted to come back to Edmonton for anything but a paycheque after his contract expired.
Apparently you didn't watch the Oiler games nor were you aware of the role that Smyth played.
Early on he was playing in a scoring top six role, but for a majority of the season he was in a checking line role. He didn't get top line PP, instead he was the first Penalty killing unit and he faced the toughest opposition on a majority of defensive zone draws.
I'm fine if Smyth leaves but that just means he needs to be replaced by a capable winger who can defend and attack. That's a player that the oilers need MORE of, not less. Honestly what game are some of you people watching out there?
I'm wondering the same. I'm thinking half the people here that want Smyth gone would be inserting somebody like Omark instead.
Few of the people in this convo are noting that Smyth was put into largely a checking line and pk role and thus the decreasing pts playing with guys like Belanger or Horcoff and on defensive assignments.
The guy still gets 38EV pts second only to Eberle who was god on this team.
I'm wondering the same. I'm thinking half the people here that want Smyth gone would be inserting somebody like Omark instead.
Few of the people in this convo are noting that Smyth was put into largely a checking line and pk role and thus the decreasing pts playing with guys like Belanger or Horcoff and on defensive assignments.
The guy still gets 38EV pts second only to Eberle who was god on this team.
It's not about wanting Smyth gone. For some reason based on Smyth's interview, it seemed like he wanted more than 1 year.
If that's the case, I'm all on Tambo's side. 1 year at a time. We can see what he brings on a year to year basis.
If not, then lets shuttle him up to the front office.
Apparently you didn't watch the Oiler games nor were you aware of the role that Smyth played.
Early on he was playing in a scoring top six role, but for a majority of the season he was in a checking line role. He didn't get top line PP, instead he was the first Penalty killing unit and he faced the toughest opposition on a majority of defensive zone draws.
I'm fine if Smyth leaves but that just means he needs to be replaced by a capable winger who can defend and attack. That's a player that the oilers need MORE of, not less. Honestly what game are some of you people watching out there?
He had a good start to the season. So long as he plays less...hits more, blocks more shots...he will be a decent bottom six player to go with Petrell and Jones..amazingly he lead the team in takeaways...so yeah...he would be a good bottom six player pretty easily.
If he uses Calgary to leverage against us and is a PITA to sign again then let him walk. He let it be known at the deadline that he is only interested in doing what is best for #1. We don't need Smyth. But it would be a luxury we could afford one year at a time
It's not about wanting Smyth gone. For some reason based on Smyth's interview, it seemed like he wanted more than 1 year.
If that's the case, I'm all on Tambo's side. 1 year at a time. We can see what he brings on a year to year basis.
If not, then lets shuttle him up to the front office.
1 or 2 yrs, I don't see the problem.
I remember people here shuddering at the thought of giving Roloson a two year extension and look how that turned out.
The club is better with Smyth in the lineup than not in the lineup, although we didn't get a chance to see that because he logged an entire 82GP, ironically on a club that suffers lots of injury problems. Smyth has been healthy in recent seasons and that alone is something the club could use more of. Not less of. NOBODY else on this club played 82games here.
Maybe he hasn't signed it yet cause he is debating retirement. It would not surprise me as it was kind of odd to ask for a trade out of LA to go back to Edmonton when he could have signed there at the end of this year.
I know last year in LA he was battling injures. You play the type of game he does it will wear on you.
I hope Smyth can return to forum and be productive, but am thinking he maybe done.
I remember people here shuddering at the thought of giving Roloson a two year extension and look how that turned out.
We need to simply make a habit of not signing players after 35 for longer than 1 year. Same thing Detroit does.
We don't bury them in the minors, we don't trade them at the deadline, and we re-negotiate in a year based on what their role is, and what they can bring. We can call it the 'Khabby Rule'.
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He's not smart at all.
Not management. Hire him in the same role as Savard in Chicago, or Fleury in Calgary.
A cheerleader that goes to event signings, promotes Oilers, and community service stuff. Heck involve him with Hockey Canada while he's at it.
Its partly circumstantial. Smyth has been here up this alley before with the club paying more for the services of his linemates, Horc, and Hemsky, than they offer him.
I don't know that Smyth needs the money, but it probably dawns on him that two players that put up consistent cluster**** seasons are getting paid a whole lot more money.
I'm thinking thats a problem. No easy solution.
I can imagine its a lot of a lowball. The team offering 2.5M wouldn't surprise me. This is the same club that pays goofballs like Eager, Barker, Brule, Omark, Potter, Khabi, to be completely useless and unliked hockey players.
Smyth needs to realize he was vastly overpaid for what he brought this year. He made 6 million last year. He already got his big contract when he was a ufa. And now he wants to play hardball again?
Both Stauffer and Milhouse more or less confirmed that Smyth wants 3 years and about 1.5million more a year then is being offered. Sounds like the oilers have just offered 2. Should be fun to see Smyth in a Flames uniform next year
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The horror of Horcoffs deal rears it's ugly head. The comments we see on these forums about. "It is what it is.", "It's no big deal because we have the caps space." and "It's not Horcoffs fault the team gave him that deal" are all tough to stomach for any player on this team when the oilers offer less than what the player thinks is fair.
Both Stauffer and Milhouse more or less confirmed that Smyth wants 3 years and about 1.5million more a year then is being offered. Sounds like the oilers have just offered 2. Should be fun to see Smyth in a Flames uniform next year
Both Stauffer and Milhouse more or less confirmed that Smyth wants 3 years and about 1.5million more a year then is being offered. Sounds like the oilers have just offered 2. Should be fun to see Smyth in a Flames uniform next year
Not so sure that will happen. Flames now talking about rebuilding. Smyth may not be a fit.
