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04-12-2012, 04:30 PM
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Bob McKenzie, probably the most well respected hockey analyst out there, didn't think it deserved suspension.
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3. Weber should have got 1 game. So what. I was more interested last night in telling u why he wouldn't get suspended than why he should.

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Bob McKenzie, probably the most well respected hockey analyst out there, didn't think it deserved suspension.
He said that the NHL was not going to suspend Weber as a statement of fact. Not that his own opinion was that it didn't warrant a suspension.

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haha, Everyone on "Around the Horn" (Espn) said what Weber did deserved a suspension.

Thought if that didn't deserve one what does?

One analyst said he wondered maybe Shanahan didn't give Weber a suspension because he didn't want it to look like he was bias towards the Wings. Possibly.
I had not thought of that angle. Good point about Shanny and the Wings.

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04-12-2012, 04:31 PM
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Holy**** people, he pushed a guys head against glass that had a helmet on.

If he really wanted to injure Zetterberg , he would have.
1) This is coming from a guy with a Duncan Keith avatar, which is hysterical.

2) He cracked his helmet. Of course he was trying to hurt him. You've got to be the most naive person in the world to think otherwise.

I can only assume this is a troll...

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04-12-2012, 04:32 PM
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Should have received 1 game. Nobody would have complained. Intent was pretty clear.

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Bob McKenzie ‏ @TSNBobMcKenzie Reply Retweet Favorite · Open
3. Weber should have got 1 game. So what. I was more interested last night in telling u why he wouldn't get suspended than why he should.

https://twitter.com/#!/TSNBobMcKenzi...95161090981888
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He said that the NHL was not going to suspend Weber as a statement of fact. Not that his own opinion was that it didn't warrant a suspension.
My bad, never saw his updated tweet. I was going off of what he said last night

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My bad, never saw his updated tweet. I was going off of what he said last night
Last night he said that the league wouldn't suspend him. He did offer up that he did not like that game was over when it occurred.

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04-12-2012, 04:37 PM
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I think what the league is saying is: If you don't like how you get hit. Slam somebody's face into the glass. It's gonna cost you a 97 Aerostar, though. I've never seen these boards so one-sided when it comes to a bad play. That's really saying something. I'm not even sure he should have been suspended but the fine was waaaay too low. Can't believe people are defending it.

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Andy Sutton would have got three years in jail.

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I think what the league is saying is: If you don't like how you get hit. Slam somebody's face into the glass. It's gonna cost you a 97 Aerostar, though. I've never seen these boards so one-sided when it comes to a bad play. That's really saying something. I'm not even sure he should have been suspended but the fine was waaaay too low. Can't believe people are defending it.
Post of the thread. Isn't that the go to Predavan. No pun intended?

I really don't see how anyone can defend that hit. At all. It's no different than the Keith hit in terms of intent. Only difference is the result and that seems is all the league cares about.

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If you make 50,000$, that fine is equivalent to 16$.
And a cup of coffee at Starbucks costs Weber $618

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1) This is coming from a guy with a Duncan Keith avatar, which is hysterical.

2) He cracked his helmet. Of course he was trying to hurt him. You've got to be the most naive person in the world to think otherwise.

I can only assume this is a troll...
Look at my posts.... I don't troll.

I'm saying that it didn't deserve a suspension , maybe its not the norm around here , but I don't think it did. Furthermore, as stated in my previous post if he wanted to injury Zetterberg he would have.

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Should have gotten a game at least.

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Furthermore, as stated in my previous post if he wanted to injury Zetterberg he would have.
So intent automatically assumes success? What exactly did Weber 'want' to do then?

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First, I'm a Red Wings Fan, so i am not objective.

I just don't understand why Weber isn't suspended. I have the feeling that the NHL has the mindset that if all goes good than nothing will happen. I mean what is the message sent to players if a player is just fined with 2500? You can do that as long as nothing severe happens? And if the worst possible outcome happens everybody is screaming and the NHL suspend the player for more than 1 year. I think that it was the right move to suspend Bertuzzi and i am not sure if he should be back.

But if you tolerate such actions like the thing Weber did than maybe an similar incident occur with a severe injury and than suddenly all scream for a suspension and the guy is suspended for a long time. I have no problem if the NHL says that is Playoff hockey, but I have a problem with different standards for punishment. I mean if Zetterberg got injured Weber would be suspended? But yeah, he was not injured, so we don't have to do anything. And no, injury is a indicator on how bad an incident was, but I have the feeling the NHL is only looking at injuries when it comes to suspensions.

Just my thoughts on this incident

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So if I'm on the Wings I'm thinking I get a free shot at someone after the next game.

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Look at my posts.... I don't troll.

I'm saying that it didn't deserve a suspension , maybe its not the norm around here , but I don't think it did. Furthermore, as stated in my previous post if he wanted to injury Zetterberg he would have.
That apparently automatically qualifies you as a troll with no sense among Wing fans.

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I wonder what would happen if a Red Wings player, repeatedly slammed Weber's temple into the boards and knocked him out. I think a $2,500 fine would be OK. Right?

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What makes it bad and unbelievable that he didn't get a suspension was b/c in sports we now know how horrible targeting the head is. Shea Weber deliberately targeted the head 2 times when he attacked Zetterberg at the end.

Preds fans can say, "Well Zetterberg hit his head when battling in the corner", but Zetterberg didn't mean to do it. He didn't go racing into the corner saying, "I am going to hit his head".

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Quicktimer - Look at my posts.... I don't troll.

I'm saying that it didn't deserve a suspension , maybe its not the norm around here , but I don't think it did. Furthermore, as stated in my previous post if he wanted to injury Zetterberg he would have.
How do you know that? Are you inside Weber's head? The NHL does not have the ability to know what a guy is thinking via ESP? All they can do is look at the video evidence. Weber punched Z and forced his head in to the glass. What if Z lost his balance? The act is all that matters.

That's just like saying Keith didn't intend to injure Sedin, just let him know he didn't appreciate what happened earlier. Doesn't matter.

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That apparently automatically qualifies you as a troll with no sense among Wing fans.
If Zetterberg slammed Webers head into the glass. You'd be singing the same tune as most of these people. And I'm not sure you've read this thread but it's mainly been neutral fans. I guess you only read what you want to though.

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I'm not even sure he should have been suspended but the fine was waaaay too low.

I'm a Red Wings fan. This is from my last post. Generalizations are fun.
Now what were you saying?

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What makes it bad and unbelievable that he didn't get a suspension was b/c in sports we now know how horrible targeting the head is. Shea Weber deliberately targeted the head 2 times when he attacked Zetterberg at the end.

Preds fans can say, "Well Zetterberg hit his head when battling in the corner", but Zetterberg didn't mean to do it. He didn't go racing into the corner saying, "I am going to hit his head".
Proof?

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First, I'm a Red Wings Fan, so i am not objective.

I just don't understand why Weber isn't suspended. I have the feeling that the NHL has the mindset that if all goes good than nothing will happen. I mean what is the message sent to players if a player is just fined with 2500? You can do that as long as nothing severe happens? And if the worst possible outcome happens everybody is screaming and the NHL suspend the player for more than 1 year. I think that it was the right move to suspend Bertuzzi and i am not sure if he should be back.

But if you tolerate such actions like the thing Weber did than maybe an similar incident occur with a severe injury and than suddenly all scream for a suspension and the guy is suspended for a long time. I have no problem if the NHL says that is Playoff hockey, but I have a problem with different standards for punishment. I mean if Zetterberg got injured Weber would be suspended? But yeah, he was not injured, so we don't have to do anything. And no, injury is a indicator on how bad an incident was, but I have the feeling the NHL is only looking at injuries when it comes to suspensions.

Just my thoughts on this incident
I think a lot of it is that the league just plain feels more pressure to hand out suspensions when there are injuries

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Being as Weber is a repeat offender (fined earlier this year) and it wasn't a hockey play, one would think it would be a suspension

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Proof?
What did Zetterberg do in that corner that was more than fighting for the puck?

He barely touched the back of the head, but I just put that in there because that is what people are clinging to when saying Weber shouldn't get a suspension.

Weber attacked the head. He literally attacked Zetterberg's head.

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