If Tambo trades Yakupov away because "he's happy with the situation" it means he's content with Hemsky being the 2RW of the future. **** that ****. Yakupov is and will be astronomically better than Hemsky. Hemsky is the one who should be moved for a D-man, not Yakupov.
To paraphrase, Tambo mentioned this on Tencer's show yesterday. Him and the scouting staff believe that Yakupov will be a very good impact player, a star player. But not an elite superstar.
Tambo mention this on Tencer's show yesterday. Him and the scouting staff believe that Yakupov will be a very good impact player, a star player. But not an elite superstar.
"Elite superstar" in that context was mentioned as Crosby/Malkin, which obviously none of our players are.
Though yeah, Tambellini's comments worry me a little. I hope they don't do something stupid.
I wanna be a part of some more 'Dump all our junk players and late picks for a superstar'.
If only we could get Tavares, for Omark, Gagner, Horcoff, a 5th, 7th in 2013, and a conditional 5th rounder! That would REALLY address our C depth.
But.......Tavares is 1st line C is he not? That makes this non-sensical. Should be targeting a team that has a 2nd liner willing to trade for Hemmer or Gags. I would sooner go hard after Cotrourier in Philly.
Even if you were right, which you are not because you are wrong and you cant be both, it's not like we knew we were getting a RWer at the draft. The chances were pretty small, so I'll defend Tambo on this one. Besides, we probably wouldn't have gotten anything in return.
Even if you were right, which you are not because you are wrong and you cant be both, it's not like we knew we were getting a RWer at the draft. The chances were pretty small, so I'll defend Tambo on this one. Besides, we probably wouldn't have gotten anything in return.
Sorry but I am right and Tambo should have waited until the offseason before he made the signing.
"Elite superstar" in that context was mentioned as Crosby/Malkin, which obviously none of our players are.
Though yeah, Tambellini's comments worry me a little. I hope they don't do something stupid.
Agreed.
I hope that Tambo does not do anything stupid, I don't think he will.
However,
Is drafting Murray a mistake with the first choice overall? He may not be flashy or be dominant in any one category. But some scouting reports have him as a franchise d-man.
Would you be upset if the Oilers drafted Murray?
In the same interview, Tambo stated the he would be open-minded to draft by team needs because they drafted BPA first overall two years in a row, and with this first overall, he will look at all options, even a trade.
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I hope that Tambo does not do anything stupid, I don't think he will.
However,
Is drafting Murray a mistake with the first choice overall? He may not be flashy or be dominant in any one category. But some scouting reports have him as a franchise d-man.
Yes. I think that would be a big mistake.
And when is Ryan Murray supposed to become a "franchise d-man"? 3 years from now? 4 years? 5 years?
Tampa drafted Viktor Hedman three years ago to anchor their blueline, and today their GA is actually worse than ours.
I hope that Tambo does not do anything stupid, I don't think he will.
However,
Is drafting Murray a mistake with the first choice overall? He may not be flashy or be dominant in any one category. But some scouting reports have him as a franchise d-man.
Would you be upset if the Oilers drafted Murray?
I would rather have a player with a ceiling greater than Murray's at 1st overall. I think Yakupov has the potential to be a perenniel 40 goal scorer (similar to Parise of a few seasons ago).
That being said there is also the chance the Murray makes me eat my words and becomes a franchise defender, it just seems far less likely according to most reports.
I would rather have a player with a ceiling greater than Murray's at 1st overall. I think Yakupov has the potential to be a perenniel 40 goal scorer (similar to Parise of a few seasons ago).
That being said there is also the chance the Murray makes me eat my words and becomes a franchise defender, it just seems far less likely according to most reports.
I agree with everything you say.
However, is the chance of Yakupov fleeing to the KHL, the equalizer between him and Murray?
Watched the highlights on Yakupov..........he seems to be a penetrator......ie/ carrying the puck towards the goalie...........we need that type of player; he appears very shifty, much more so than Hall........remember he is rated equal to or better than Hall.
If we were to trade Hall today...........what should be coming back?.........that a trade that is very hard to make.......nobody is going to trade a stud defencemen for a draft pick (even tho it is #1).............Tambollini has to make the pick and get the defencemen through other means (free agents, other trades like for MPS, Gagner,etc).
Not sure why you quoted me, because I'm on board with you, pick Nail.
However, is the chance of Yakupov fleeing to the KHL, the equalizer between him and Murray?
Food for thought....
Not even close. He's going to be playing in the NHL next season, the only question right now is will that be in Edmonton (and honestly it shouldn't be that much of a debate).
However, is the chance of Yakupov fleeing to the KHL, the equalizer between him and Murray?
Food for thought....
why would Yakupov flee to KHL now? He couldve made money in KHL but chose to play in Sarnia instead..
He is not even your conventional Russian but is from sub country called Tatarstan.
He did not leave CHL money for KHL so why would he leave NHL for it?
Unless we give him Belanger as a C he will be in NHL.
I hope that Tambo does not do anything stupid, I don't think he will.
However,
Is drafting Murray a mistake with the first choice overall? He may not be flashy or be dominant in any one category. But some scouting reports have him as a franchise d-man.
Would you be upset if the Oilers drafted Murray?
In the same interview, Tambo stated the he would be open-minded to draft by team needs because they drafted BPA first overall two years in a row, and with this first overall, he will look at all options, even a trade.
If they took Murphy at 1 I would be furious and would immediately jump on the "fire all management" bandwagon. To be fair, I would react the same way for any not insane situation where we don't get Yakupov now. But drafting for need at 1 would be about the stupidest thing this team could do.
If there was ever a time for Tambo to sit on his hands, it's now.
I think that risk can be taken due to the fact that:
1) It's likely not much of a risk at all
2) This is their third 1st overall pick in a row 3) It was a pick that fell into their laps, undeserved.
Go for the homerun swing.
This is what worries me... Tambo might justify trading away this pick with the bolded..
A solid NHLer and top 7 pick will make Tambo think twice before keeping this pick. They'll feel less obligated to keep the pick because it fell in their lap.
there is really only one option because no one is going to give up what we will demand, which is basically a proven star calibre D (under 25 years old) + a top 7 pick.
pick Yakupov and if you can't fill holes in the next year or 2, then and ONLY THEN, if it becomes an over-bearing need, consider moving one of the big 4.
for crying out loud, don't out-think yourself and get greedy. You are guarenteed a top-end talent. He's the best player out of Russia in about 7 years. its a no-brainer.
there is really only one option because no one is going to give up what we will demand, which is basically a proven star calibre D (under 25 years old) + a top 7 pick.
pick Yakupov and if you can't fill holes in the next year or 2, then and ONLY THEN, if it becomes an over-bearing need, consider moving one of the big 4.
for crying out loud, don't out-think yourself and get greedy. You are guarenteed a top-end talent. He's the best player out of Russia in about 7 years. its a no-brainer.
The only way I would trade Yakupov is one of two situations (maybe add omark or something)
Subban + 3rd
Hamonic + 4th
I kid, I kid.
