Dreger: "Chances are Iginla wont be traded, but instead be kept as part of the core"
Unbelievable. If this is the case and flames ownership are still not wanting to not do a full rebuild but more of a retool through free agency then ill have no more respect towards this ownership group. Words cant even explain my disgust
Im so done this Disgraceful and naive organization. No longer a flames fan. Sorry, enough is enough. This is just beyond ridiculous.
Dreger: "Chances are Iginla wont be traded, but instead be kept as part of the core"
Unbelievable. If this is the case and flames ownership are still not wanting to not do a full rebuild but more of a retool through free agency then ill have no more respect towards this ownership group. Words cant even explain my disgust
Im so done this Disgraceful and naive organization. No longer a flames fan. Sorry, enough is enough. This is just beyond ridiculous.
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.
If you'd have rather kept Brent, even though he's proven nothing as a coach in the NHL, simply because it might signal a "rebuild", that's unbelievably foolish.
I want a new coach. I'm fed up with his inability to adapt his system for this team, I'm sick of his scowl as the players come on the ice after the first intermission, and I'm sick of his inability to find any success as a coach.
Good riddance. As a Flames fan, I can only hope that Brent is picked up by Edmonton.
What else would either side say with regards to not re-signing Brent Sutter? They would say it would be an amicable and mutual parting of the ways.
At the end of the day, Brent failed to get the team into the postseason for 3 seasons now. Is he a 'bad coach'? Probably not - I think he is a decent coach actually. However, some coaches are wrong for certain teams, and Brent was never a good hire.
Flames have not had a good coach since Darryl stepped down. Sure, this team might be 'harder to coach', but in part it was due to hiring Playfair (not ready as an NHL head coach, and got promoted from an assistant coach) and then on to Mike Keenan (who was basically 'retired' on the job - Playfair ran the practices, Keenan wouldn't even practice the PP, and just relied on his top players to 'get the job done' with minimum systems work involved). Brent was never a good fit for the organization, and say what you will about the talent level (or lack thereof), in the end Brent did not make the whole better than the sum of the individual parts. He never created synergy with the team, and never got them to play consistently.
I really don't think this means the Flames are going to rebuild, not rebuild, are going to retool.. all this means is that there is going to be 'changes'. Nobody at this time (including probably Feaster) has an exact plan right now.
Brent Sutter already said last season that if the Flames didn't make the playoffs this year, that he would be gone. NO team spends to the cap and retains a head coach who has failed to make the playoffs for 3 seasons straight.
This is one step of 'x' moves the organization is going to make. Nobody at this point knows what is next. Yesterday Sutter had his press conference, and said he would come back to rebuild OR contend again. To me, 'contend' means either 'status quo' or a retool.
Saying it was a difference in the organizational direction was a 'polite and professional' way of making a change at the coaching level. At this point, it tells us nothing about what is going to happen, and nobody will know what the Flames' plans are until training camp. Just what I see anyways. Feaster talks a lot, but doesn't really say anything. Darryl Sutter never spoke much. Neither one of them will tell the world what they are planning.
"Not on board with the direction of the team"... given that Calgary has been about as directionless a team as there could be in the past few seasons, could this mean Feaster has finally started to think about going through a more "traditional" rebuild?
Sutter was quoted as being on board with a rebuild, should it come to that.
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Originally Posted by Puckgenius
Source? I say false
There was an article in the Herald mentioning that Sutter was trying to get Iginla to play a particular role in the system (i.e. both ends of the ice), and Iginla basically refused on the grounds that he felt he was more useful to the team as a purely offensive weapon. I think one of the reasons Iginla had a pretty poor year was because of the disconnect; Sutter was putting him on in all kinds of situations, and Iginla was playing as though he was being utilized like a Sedin.
There was an article in the Herald mentioning that Sutter was trying to get Iginla to play a particular role in the system (i.e. both ends of the ice), and Iginla basically refused on the grounds that he felt he was more useful to the team as a purely offensive weapon. I think one of the reasons Iginla had a pretty poor year was because of the disconnect; Sutter was putting him on in all kinds of situations, and Iginla was playing as though he was being utilized like a Sedin.
Yea thats why had more blocked shots than both players combined.
A guy lost his job today. Doesn't that make anyone else sad?
Sorry, but I reserve my sadness for people that aren't dealing with first world problems. Still has hundreds of thousands of dollars, if not millions of dollars, and likely will be able to land another well-paying gig in the offseason either with another team, whether that be in the NHL or in the minors or juniors, or as an analyst on a network or somewhere along those lines without much difficulty.
I think the wrong guy got gassed. Feaster hasn't really impressed me with his moves. How is Sutter going to go anywhere with the line-up Feaster hands him? Scottie Bowman couldn't coach that roster into the playoffs!
Feaster has shown a complete lack of understanding about how to undertake a rebuild. Where are the draft picks from the deadline? Do not pretend Kiprusoff or Iginla wouldn't fetch a good return as rentals. Yet....?
Edmonton has first overall again. They might become a hockey team with some future. What is Calgary doing?
I think the wrong guy got gassed. Feaster hasn't really impressed me with his moves. How is Sutter going to go anywhere with the line-up Feaster hands him? Scottie Bowman couldn't coach that roster into the playoffs!
Feaster has shown a complete lack of understanding about how to undertake a rebuild. Where are the draft picks from the deadline? Do not pretend Kiprusoff or Iginla wouldn't fetch a good return as rentals. Yet....?
Edmonton has first overall again. They might become a hockey team with some future. What is Calgary doing?
Sutter had 2 years before Feaster they still didn't make the playoffs. The team he was given made the playoffs every year since 04 except under him. Feaster isn't allowed to rebuild as the owners don't want one it doesn't matter who is GM they aren't allowed to rebuild. Sure Iginla and Kipper could get good returns but HE ISN'T ALLOWED TO TRADE THEM.
Yea thats why had more blocked shots than both players combined.
He started in the defensive zone twice as much as they did. Of course he's going to have more blocked shots; he still wasn't a defensive stalwart by any means, and he was clearly struggling for a lot of the year. I think it makes sense that it may partially be due to his incompatability with the system Sutter put in place.
Yeah, going to be interesting to see who becomes the next coach in Calgary. If you ask me that team needs to be blown up and started from the ground up.
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Exhibit A as to how hockey doesn't matter on ESPN:
Last night an ESPN program was discussing how the Detroit Pistons needed a hero citing the heroes on the Detroit Tigers, Detroit Lions and no mention of the Detroit Red Wings. All this despite the Red Wings probably being the most succesful team in Detroit right now.
He started in the defensive zone twice as much as they did. Of course he's going to have more blocked shots; he still wasn't a defensive stalwart by any means, and he was clearly struggling for a lot of the year. I think it makes sense that it may partially be due to his incompatability with the system Sutter put in place.
Brent just didn't understand his team. He never put certain players in the right position to succeed. He never identified strengths (and we heard criticism from Hagman about this) and never used those players in those positions.
Good coaches work with what they have, not what they wish they had. Brent is simply terrible at this.
Brent just didn't understand his team. He never put certain players in the right position to succeed. He never identified strengths (and we heard criticism from Hagman about this) and never used those players in those positions.
Good coaches work with what they have, not what they wish they had. Brent is simply terrible at this.
Yeah, fully agreed. For the most part he took a "one size fits all" approach and gave the regulars fairly similar circumstances (notable exceptions being the fact that he buried Backlund as a shutdown centre, and he gave the 4th liners very soft minutes). The top 9, for the most part, were all just kind of thrown out against whoever, and there wasn't a ton of manipulation of zonestarts or matchups by Sutter that I saw.
