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Zetterberg is overrated same for Datsyuk, but I would rather have Datsyuk then Zett.Datsyuk can be a solid 2nd line center on anyteam, The reason why he looks the way he odes is well simply look at the team that he plays with>the whole team is a HOF squad.Both guys are over rated and I wouldnt give much for them.
Zetterberg is overrated same for Datsyuk, but I would rather have Datsyuk then Zett.Datsyuk can be a solid 2nd line center on anyteam, The reason why he looks the way he odes is well simply look at the team that he plays with>the whole team is a HOF squad.Both guys are over rated and I wouldnt give much for them.
Datsyuk played his best hockey when all those HOF's were injured..
his skill would be a good fit for a scoring center for the Oilers though..... however, they probabyl wouldn't give up what the wings would want..... Jason Smith would maybe be something to look at?
I'd offer Grebeshkov and Cammalleri, but not the original offer.
I'd do the original offer if Datsyuk was a couple years younger. Not that he's old, mind you, just that it would have added a little bit more value.
Huh?
Grebeshkov > Brown
Cammalleri is at least equal to Kanko AND Flinn
As a Kings fan, I'm still not completely sold on Brown as a top-line player. I'm not certain that he won't end up closer to a Todd Harvey than an Adam Deadmarsh-type. I'm really high on Kanko as an agitating 20-goal 3rd liner, and Flinn is Flinn, but Cammalleri's value is higher than both of those players combined.
The original deal is a steal in favor of the Kings, and your proposal is a lot closer to what would be needed to make the trade.
If the Wings are going to deal Datsyuk, I'd say it'd be under two conditions right now.
1. They'd need an impact player to come back who can play RIGHT NOW. He was their only consistant offensive force throughout the year last year, and given Lang's age and salary, he'll be around a lot longer than Lang.
2. They'd almost certainly trade him out of the West for the obvious reason of not having to face him again. Even though he's not yet anything close to a playoff performer, with enough opportunities he could become one real quick.
If the Wings are going to deal Datsyuk, I'd say it'd be under two conditions right now.
1. They'd need an impact player to come back who can play RIGHT NOW. He was their only consistant offensive force throughout the year last year, and given Lang's age and salary, he'll be around a lot longer than Lang.
No they don't. Their team is old and overpaid. They need to blow the team up and start over. Datsyuk is their best asset they have right now. I say trade him for as many high picks/prospects you can get. With Yzerman, Lang, and Draper. They have more than enough centers. Hudler is also coming along nicely in the AHL.
Datsyuk is worthless in the playoffs. You're also forgeting that the NHL might lower the age for unresticted free agents. The only players worth keeping on this team are Zetterberg and Kronwall.
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2. They'd almost certainly trade him out of the West for the obvious reason of not having to face him again. Even though he's not yet anything close to a playoff performer, with enough opportunities he could become one real quick.
I can't think of any teams in the East that would want him.
No they don't. Their team is old and overpaid. They need to blow the team up and start over. Datsyuk is their best asset they have right now. I say trade him for as many high picks/prospects you can get. With Yzerman, Lang, and Draper. They have more than enough centers. Hudler is also coming along nicely in the AHL.
Datsyuk is worthless in the playoffs. You're also forgeting that the NHL might lower the age for unresticted free agents. The only players worth keeping on this team are Zetterberg and Kronwall.
First of all, Yzerman does't play center anymore due to his injuries, and even if he did let's just say he has 1 or 2 years left, Lang is getting old and I would expect him to slow down soon, Draper is not a top line scoring center, and Hudler is just too small to be a top line center and even if he makes it, it will take him some time to develop.
Second of all, a bad year of playoffs does't mean he's gonna choke every single playoffs for the rest of his career, so this argument makes no sense, you're making it seem like he's gonna be crappy in the playoffs for the rest of his career, I don't buy this theory because Datsyuk only played 3 years of playoffs and there's much more time before you sit there and say he's worthless in the playoffs.
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I can't think of any teams in the East that would want him.
Not true, many teams could use him in their top 2 lines, some of these teams would be Ottawa, NJ, Rangers, and I can go on and on, so this pretty absurd of you to say.
No they don't. Their team is old and overpaid. They need to blow the team up and start over. Datsyuk is their best asset they have right now. I say trade him for as many high picks/prospects you can get. With Yzerman, Lang, and Draper. They have more than enough centers. Hudler is also coming along nicely in the AHL.
Datsyuk is worthless in the playoffs. You're also forgeting that the NHL might lower the age for unresticted free agents. The only players worth keeping on this team are Zetterberg and Kronwall.
I can't think of any teams in the East that would want him.
They need to blow the team up and start again? Last I checked this team still had no problems making it out of the West. They surely could use a few more assets in the youth cabinet, but trading Datsyuk isn't the way to do it. And lest you forget that just like autumn changing the colors of the leaves, trading deadlines will always bring Ken Holland out of the woodwork. And, although we are anxiously awaiting the new CBA, Detroit will have money to blow for many years to come on free agency to fill holes.
And your argument against my second point is rather illogical.
Grebeshkov > Brown
Cammalleri is at least equal to Kanko AND Flinn
As a Kings fan, I'm still not completely sold on Brown as a top-line player. I'm not certain that he won't end up closer to a Todd Harvey than an Adam Deadmarsh-type. I'm really high on Kanko as an agitating 20-goal 3rd liner, and Flinn is Flinn, but Cammalleri's value is higher than both of those players combined.
The original deal is a steal in favor of the Kings, and your proposal is a lot closer to what would be needed to make the trade.
You're right on both counts, the original deal is a steal, and my proposal is closer in value. I have two issues with the original proposal:
- It includes trading away all wingers; while our depth on the wings is good, I don't want to make it a weakness.
- To me, Brown has slightly higher value than Grebeshkov. If I'm not dealing Brown, then I figure to add the value of Cammalleri, whose value is higher than both Kanko and Flinn, to offset the difference and make it more realistic.
The problem with dealing away Cammalleri is that he can play at Center, which is definitely one of our weakest points. Perhaps a better proposal would include something like Petiot (a stay at home defenseman), Pushkarev (since Detroit was apparently so high on him), and Kanko for Datsyuk.
