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04-13-2012, 10:09 AM
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Edmonton - Boston

With Edmonton winning the Yakupov lottery, would be curious if there could be any value in Tuukka Rask being traded for one of their top line youngsters, ideally Hall. What would have to be added from Boston's side. Spooner & a 1st? Hamilton (rather not see them move him)? More/Less.

I'm thinking the B's could use Khudobin as back-up next year and re-evaluate where Thomas is after his contract is up next season.

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I really doubt any of them would be moved.

It sounds like they're open to hearing offers for the pick, but you can be pretty sure the other three won't likely be going anywhere.

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With Edmonton winning the Yakupov lottery, would be curious if there could be any value in Tuukka Rask being traded for one of their top line youngsters, ideally Hall. What would have to be added from Boston's side. Spooner & a 1st? Hamilton (rather not see them move him)? More/Less.

I'm thinking the B's could use Khudobin as back-up next year and re-evaluate where Thomas is after his contract is up next season.
ugh. here we go. Bruins won't give up enough for the young edm stars and edm will ask for too much.
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ugh. here we go. Bruins won't give up enough for the young edm stars and edm will ask for too much.
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What about reversing it.
Edmonton Trades the 1st for Rask and Hamilton.

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As an Oiler fan, I would only be in favor of a move for Rask if other pieces were involved.

To Boston: Edmonton 1st overall, Curtis Hamilton or Tyler Pitlick level prospect

To Edmonton: Tuukka Rask (sp?), Milan Lucic

Boston fans will scream overpayment, I respond in advance with a simple "we will only move the Yakupick if it fills multiple holes with significant pieces. Lucic adds size to our top six, Rask gives us an upgrade on Dubnyk.

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How about Edmonton 1st straight up for Rask? Then they switch Hamiltons.

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I really doubt any of them would be moved.

It sounds like they're open to hearing offers for the pick, but you can be pretty sure the other three won't likely be going anywhere.
i'm pretty sure they'll be picking Nail. the offer would have to knock the sox off of Tambo and i doubt that will happen, and Rask is good, but i feel the Oil want to see if Dubnyk can be an effective goalie next year for them and play maybe 60 games. the B's would probably have to include Doug Hamilton and their 1st rounder with Rask to have a chance and i doubt the B's will part with Dougie.

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As an Oiler fan, I would only be in favor of a move for Rask if other pieces were involved.

To Boston: Edmonton 1st overall, Curtis Hamilton or Tyler Pitlick level prospect

To Edmonton: Tuukka Rask (sp?), Milan Lucic

Boston fans will scream overpayment, I respond in advance with a simple "we will only move the Yakupick if it fills multiple holes with significant pieces. Lucic adds size to our top six, Rask gives us an upgrade on Dubnyk.
we would, but I understand what you are saying.

and based off the previous responses I should read this forum a little more often if this is such an old topic. My bad!!

Just seemed like a good fit, with Rask/Thomas/Khudobin in the mix in Boston and the plethora of young forwards in Edmonton. I personally think Rask is on the move; but many others think it will be Thomas. We'll find out in the off-season I guess which one, or maybe it will be neither!!!

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As an Oiler fan, I would only be in favor of a move for Rask if other pieces were involved.

To Boston: Edmonton 1st overall, Curtis Hamilton or Tyler Pitlick level prospect

To Edmonton: Tuukka Rask (sp?), Milan Lucic

Boston fans will scream overpayment, I respond in advance with a simple "we will only move the Yakupick if it fills multiple holes with significant pieces. Lucic adds size to our top six, Rask gives us an upgrade on Dubnyk.
how nicely you slid Lucic into the deal ... The guy is worshipped by Bruin fans and will not be an 'additional piece' to a deal.

If Dougie Hamilton is a legit future top pairing Dman then I can see a Rask + D.Hamilton for Yakupov + C.Hamilton deal.

Only way EDM trades the pick is if they get a top pairing Dman + in return..

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how nicely you slid Lucic into the deal ... The guy is worshipped by Bruin fans and will not be an 'additional piece' to a deal.

If Dougie Hamilton is a legit future top pairing Dman then I can see a Rask + D.Hamilton for Yakupov + C.Hamilton deal.

Only way EDM trades the pick is if they get a top pairing Dman + in return..
Well, in all fairness, I consider Lucic to be the centerpiece of that deal, not Rask. Plus, like Bruins fans, I really love his game and would dance if we managed to luck out and get a deal for him.

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Been discussed all ready. The Oil aren't moving any of the kids /thread

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how nicely you slid Lucic into the deal ... The guy is worshipped by Bruin fans and will not be an 'additional piece' to a deal.

If Dougie Hamilton is a legit future top pairing Dman then I can see a Rask + D.Hamilton for Yakupov + C.Hamilton deal.

Only way EDM trades the pick is if they get a top pairing Dman + in return..
B's 1st rounder, Rask and D Hamilton for Yakupov and a later draft pick i can see. remember, as i have heard it here in Edmonton, the deal will have to "knock the Sox off" of Tambellini in order for him to move Yakupov.

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You can keep Rask you'll need him. I might consider something around Seguin for 1st overall, but you'd likely have to add for a deal to work.

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As an Oiler fan, I would only be in favor of a move for Rask if other pieces were involved.

To Boston: Edmonton 1st overall, Curtis Hamilton or Tyler Pitlick level prospect

To Edmonton: Tuukka Rask (sp?), Milan Lucic

Boston fans will scream overpayment, I respond in advance with a simple "we will only move the Yakupick if it fills multiple holes with significant pieces. Lucic adds size to our top six, Rask gives us an upgrade on Dubnyk.
Huge no thanks from the B's

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What about reversing it.
Edmonton Trades the 1st for Rask and Hamilton.
This is the only type of deal i could see happening.


Bos will not give up Seguin/Lucic.


Edm will not give up current big 3.



i still dont think that is quite enough from Edm POV, i guess it depends how much stu thinks of Hamilton.

I'm not a fan of giving up value for goalies either. I would love yak for seguin straight up, but boston wont.

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Didn't Chiarelli himself say Tuukka Rask was not available after being called from Columbus? Thomas is getting old and is probably going to retire within a couple of seasons. Boston has long term plans with Rask and will not part with him with any realistic offer.

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You can keep Rask you'll need him. I might consider something around Seguin for 1st overall, but you'd likely have to add for a deal to work.


That's rich.

2010 already passed, you guys drafted Hall, too late to try and get Seguin now.

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Didn't Chiarelli himself say Tuukka Rask was not available after being called from Columbus? Thomas is getting old and is probably going to retire within a couple of seasons. Boston has long term plans with Rask and will not part with him with any realistic offer.
I think so, but I think if I was the B's management I'd take a hard look at what you have in Khudobin. Pretty good numbers this year on a bad Providence team in the A; only 25 under a good contract for another year. Could he back up Thomas next year and get 25 starts? How long will Thomas play, he is still playing at a high level; can't imagine he will drop off that much in 1 or 2 years.

If Rask could be dealt with a few add-ons for a high end chip, like Hall or Yakupov (I know it's unlikely to be that good of a chip) and still have a solid back-up behind Thomas, then it seems like it's something to at least consider.

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That's rich.

2010 already passed, you guys drafted Hall, too late to try and get Seguin now.
kinda goes against the OP ...

Rask is needed by BOS since Thomas is up there in age and is a UFA after next season. Yakupov\Hall to them would be nice but not at the price it will cost them.

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I think so, but I think if I was the B's management I'd take a hard look at what you have in Khudobin. Pretty good numbers this year on a bad Providence team in the A; only 25 under a good contract for another year. Could he back up Thomas next year and get 25 starts? How long will Thomas play, he is still playing at a high level; can't imagine he will drop off that much in 1 or 2 years.

If Rask could be dealt with a few add-ons for a high end chip, like Hall or Yakupov (I know it's unlikely to be that good of a chip) and still have a solid back-up behind Thomas, then it seems like it's something to at least consider.
BOS for one knows that you need goaltending to win cups. Thomas will be done in a couple years and its too early to slot Khudobin as your future #1 G.
Rask\Khudobin will be a solid tandem for Bs in 2 yrs for the next 5 or so years.
Seguin, Lucic and Hamilton will be part of the core of that team..

1st overall\Hall are attractive peices but gutting your core for them is a side step at best.

edit: and this comes from an Oiler fan who hates the Bs as much as the Canucks.

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That's rich.

2010 already passed, you guys drafted Hall, too late to try and get Seguin now.
as an oiler fan i agree.


i would be willing to add to yakupov to get seguin. probably not as much as you would want though.

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Both fan bases value their talent too much to agree on any sort of big deal. Plus If the Bruins were to target any of the 3 from EDM, I would prefer Eberle.

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B's fans are right....as nice as it would be to get Yakupov, they just aren't going to trade Rask, for he is the goalie of the future there....they also aren't going to trade one of the best power forwards in the game, Lucic, either, or LOL Seguin!! . really, the B's don't have to do anything....they are already a perrenial contender and can make little tweaks after the season is over and try for the cup again!

what the Oilers would be asking for as a return for Yakupov would be younger players like Lucic and Marchand and Seguin....all of whom are not available. their top center and d-man in the system....Alex Khokhlachev and Doug Hamilton plus what appears to be the #24 pick overall, which could get the Oil d-men Brady Skjei or Hampus Lundholm, Mike Matheson, Dalton Thrower, Ludvig Bystrom or even Nick Ebert perhaps? or a forward like Martin Frk or Tom Wilson, maybe Stefan Matteau or Lukas Sutter or Phil Di Giuseppe....it's an interesting package but does it knock the sox off of Tambellini? not sure?

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