Well Mackasey has been confirmed. I think Mcguire was confirmed as being interviewed. There were reports about us wanting Bergevin for an interview, not sure how 'confirmed' they were. Uh.. Vinny D dropped out of the 'race' so you might have heard the collective sigh of relief.
I think there was a rumour about Fenton, can't quite recall.
Actually...
If someone wouldn't mind helping me out, I could put together a collection of confirmed interviews or calls from different new sources to be kept in the OP of each thread. If anybody remembers or has any of those pages still open somehow, I'll do my best to put them together.
Blues and Preds are a great example of how supremely important it is to have the right coach and GM combo.
They get every ounce of potential out of prospects and even some players considered has-beens.
At the other end of the spectrum, the Caps are completely stifling the offensive potential of their roster. Similar to what our JM-PG combo did.
I know people around here hate Semin but I think the next GM can get him at a huge discount. He's just snake-bitten like the rest of that team. If Roy is the next coach, it seems he's had success developing Russians so I would gamble on Semin.
I disagree with the questioning of Radulov's compete level. He seems really feisty.
He's been playing well during these POs.
Radu-Legwand-AK have been the most dangerous line for Nashville. They cycle the puck really well in the offensive zone and spend little time defending. When they do, they're pretty good at it. AK has had great POs so far too.
I had a dream last night that Roy was named coach. I know Timmins runs the draft, but I really hope we get our coach and GM situation fixed beforehand as I think this could be a great draft to wheel and deal in.
My preferred GM/coach duo would be a Bergevin-Roy duo. Bergevin does seem to be level-headed guy. While Roy would provide the spark needed at ice level. Both guys bring the experience of having played in the NHL. The key with that duo would be to bring a really experienced assistant GM like Rick Dudley. I would also name Trevor Timmins has Director of amateur AND pro scouting. Yes, he's not going to have all the time in the world to do both. But what that title should mean is that before a move is about to be done, you give Timmins the chance to review and see some games and give the final recommendation. Also, it might be time for Timmins to groom some guys for a future head scout position. Not sure if Jankowski is the guy or Frank Jay (though much older) but if it's been known that Timmins wants soon to do something else, we need to be prepare. So by naming Timmins in that position, you give some of the scouts a bigger challenge so they'd be prepare for the next step. And you also give Timmins the visibility to maybe move higher with another team....or maybe he'll even end up doing it here.
I would also do a small refont of the scouting group and try the best whether it's for money or better conditions to get Simon Nolet in the group. Claude Carrier could also be another guy. You know my take on this, we need to be more present in the Q. And we need the BEST guys to do so. Everywhere else, most guys we're having are experienced except the Q and that's inexcusable.
Now, it's pretty tough from the outside to really know what some of our personnel guys are doing. But somehow, I feel we probably can do better than Patrick Boivin, who was probably hired for the wrong reasons. Unless somebody is in the INSIDE and can tell me that he's a gem, he may be....but we don't. Larry Carrière....well if I'm appointing Bergevin, Dudley and give extra work to Timmins....what is the place for Carrière? If there's any, keep him if you want. I don't see the need. We need a fresh restart. Don't see Carrière being that much needed. But if he was, so be it. And with the appointment of Timmins in the pro scouting part, I hope they revamp it. And fire Gibson who, again, while it's tough to know his direct implication in anything, didn't clearly do anything good enough to be a must in the organization. But that's only the end-result talking....not what happened behind the scenes, I know.
So in resume, Bergevin for GM, Roy for Coach, Dudley for assistant-GM, Timmins with the "promotion". I can go as far as going with the assistant coaches who I wish would be a combination of Larry Robinson/Sylvain Lefebvre and one of Groulx/Tourigny Roy's side. I would have thought about Joel Bouchard as well but Roy would need a vet presence with him behind the bench and Robinson is the perfect guy. And I would surely appoint Jean-François Houle as Jodoin's assistant coach for the Dogs.
I was tempted to name Jim Playfair as one of Roy's assistant coaches but I didn't want the bench to take 20 unsportsmanlike conducts penalties each game....
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Extracts from the Richard Labbé's (La Presse) article:
(... "Je pense qu'il pourrait avoir du succès à Montréal. Il est un bon entraîneur, il est aussi un gagnant, et je pense qu'il est bien capable de faire le travail. C'est un gars qui sait ce qu'il fait, et c'est un gars qui connaît le hockey."
"Il a beaucoup d'expérience. Ça fait déjà longtemps qu'il dirige son équipe au niveau junior, alors j'imagine qu'il est prêt pour la suite. C'est un bon gars et je me suis toujours très bien entendu avec lui."
"Il a toujours été un gagnant"...)
(... "I think he would be successful in Montreal. He is a good coach and a winner; I think he can do the job. He knows what he is doing and his hockey knowledge is solid."
"He has plenty of experience as a head coach; he has been doing it for a long time with his junior club. He is a good guy and I always had a good relationship with him."
"To put it simply, he is a winner."...)
Ref.: see The Reem's quote above.
To summarise Gorges, Desharnais, Price and Radulov comments:
Roy is an experienced head coach who would bring a strong presence in the dressing room. He knows what it takes to have success in this league and every teams wish for a leader like him. Our Canadiens need a spark and Patrick can provide it. He is a Winner.
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I was tempted to name Jim Playfair as one of Roy's assistant coaches but I didn't want the bench to take 20 unsportsmanlike conducts penalties each game....
Assuming Roy as the head coach, I would definitely feel more comfortable if his assistants were calm and level headed guys! Roy's passion level is high (really high!) but, as I already mentioned, "... Players with a high compete level such as Price, Gorges and Desharnais would tolerate a lot from a passionate guy like Roy if the team was winning...".
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Because they would publicly say awful things about a coach they've never played for (aside from Radulov)... Ask them about Barry Melrose, I'm sure they'll find some nice things to say about him too.
Thank god they don't choose coaches based on player's opinions.
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If we're not hiring Timmins as the GM then I hope the new GM does with him what Detroit did with Nill. Pay him a huge contract and make him sign a non-compete so he doesn't leave.
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It was Dreger who offered Fleury's name for the Vezina. He said that's a name I'd consider that isn't getting enough consideration.
How many sips of vodka had Dreger had before making that one up?
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Julien was fired because he was too much of a players coach, which didn't sit too well with old timers like Gainey and Lamoriello.
I thought he left to take the role as Bill from King of the Hill.
Because they would publicly say awful things about a coach they've never played for (aside from Radulov)... Ask them about Barry Melrose, I'm sure they'll find some nice things to say about him too.
Thank god they don't choose coaches based on player's opinions.
"... Thank god they don't choose coaches based on player's opinions.".
Yeah... those guys (Price, Gorges, Desharnais, Radulov) have been working with head coaches for 20 years+... what do they know about the qualities required to be a good head coach eh?
Obviously they should not hire a head coach solely based on players' opinions but to completely dismiss their expertise on the matter is misguided and it's also an "insult" to the players' intelligence.
"... Thank god they don't choose coaches based on player's opinions.".
Yeah... those guys (Price, Gorges, Desharnais, Radulov) have been working with head coaches for 20 years+... what do they know about the qualities required to be a good head coach eh?
Obviously they should not hire a head coach solely based on players' opinions but to completely dismiss their expertise on the matter is misguided and it's also an "insult" to the players' intelligence.
Good points !
Some guys here had never played organized hockey at any significant level and they think they "know" what is a good coach and a good GM...
"... Thank god they don't choose coaches based on player's opinions.".
Yeah... those guys (Price, Gorges, Desharnais, Radulov) have been working with head coaches for 20 years+... what do they know about the qualities required to be a good head coach eh?
Obviously they should not hire a head coach solely based on players' opinions but to completely dismiss their expertise on the matter is misguided and it's also an "insult" to the players' intelligence.
I agree with your point. Players certainly have a say in getting coaches fired. They determine the success of a coach by their response and reaction to the coaching style.Mind you there are people on these boards who think that what players have to say is completely meaningless, even those who once played in the Habs organization. Others think that journalists compile lists of candidates and give their own biased opinions also qualify as experts.
I defer to people closer to what is really going on in the hockey world.
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"... Thank god they don't choose coaches based on player's opinions.".
Yeah... those guys (Price, Gorges, Desharnais, Radulov) have been working with head coaches for 20 years+... what do they know about the qualities required to be a good head coach eh?
Obviously they should not hire a head coach solely based on players' opinions but to completely dismiss their expertise on the matter is misguided and it's also an "insult" to the players' intelligence.
No you're right, players do know what are good qualities, but I don't agree with the fact that these statements actually mean something. Players will speak well of most everyone in public, when asked about them.
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Good points !
Some guys here had never played organized hockey at any significant level and they think they "know" what is a good coach and a good GM...
I don't pretend to be an expert on the subject, but it seems there are others in this thread that are very high up on their horse and can't do anything but assume we're clueless plebs.
Roy is not a lock either. The GM picks the coach, not popular vote.
But during the interview Savard and Molson will ask the futur GM what will be his plan, who is he gonna hire, etc...Maybe Savard would view in a more positive light the guy that would say he wants Roy as coach.
Plus, in a world where Head Coaches are sometimes acting submissive to star players, a coach of Roy's stature would help prevent the players from getting too big of an ego.
I say we go with Roy, as long as he team's well with the GM and has sound assistants
Well Mackasey has been confirmed. I think Mcguire was confirmed as being interviewed. There were reports about us wanting Bergevin for an interview, not sure how 'confirmed' they were. Uh.. Vinny D dropped out of the 'race' so you might have heard the collective sigh of relief.
I think there was a rumour about Fenton, can't quite recall.
Actually...
If someone wouldn't mind helping me out, I could put together a collection of confirmed interviews or calls from different new sources to be kept in the OP of each thread. If anybody remembers or has any of those pages still open somehow, I'll do my best to put them together.
Not sure were I read or heard it but I believe Chicago wants to wait until they're done to give Bergevin the go for an interview
But during the interview Savard and Molson will ask the futur GM what will be his plan, who is he gonna hire, etc...Maybe Savard would view in a more positive light the guy that would say he wants Roy as coach.
I would be happy with Roy but if it plays out the way you describe it, I would be very disappointed in Molson and Savard. That's micro-managing imo.
I wouldn't be suprised if the Remparts lose tonight's game. That an announcement would be made this week of Roy becoming the next coach. It may seem like a dumb statement but I have my suspicions that it might be possible, of course there would have to be a new GM but maybe Carriere would get the order from Molson and Savard to do it.
I believe the habs need someone that can bring some energy inside the locker room and Roy fits right in the picture.
