why are you so ****ing high on the skeleton that is Jason Arnott? You're really all about giving him ~20 minutes a game but god forbid Smyth or Horcoff get that? Just ridiculous.
I'd consider Stoll or gulp even Jokinen -- I'm looking at that spot as someone who replaces Gagner, the other roster decisions are different.
If Ryan Smyth wants to be here he can sign a 1 year deal as far as I'm concerned. If he wants something like a 3-year deal ... buh bye.
As long as the deals are short term, I'm fine with it.
I'd consider Stoll or gulp even Jokinen -- I'm looking at that spot as someone who replaces Gagner, the other roster decisions are different.
If Ryan Smyth wants to be here he can sign a 1 year deal as far as I'm concerned. If he wants something like a 3-year deal ... buh bye.
As long as the deals are short term, I'm fine with it.
I'm not talking about signing deals but about playing time. Jokinen is on a different level than Stoll, Horcoff, and Arnott. The latter are defensive 3rd line guys who have experience, while Jokinen has actually anchored a top 6 line recently. I really cant believe you think those three are an improvement over Gagner...Sure they're not soft, but they're slow and have even worse hands. Yes, "the grass is greener" with Stoll and Arnott, but the reality is they are no better than Horcoff, if not worse.
I'm not talking about signing deals but about playing time. Jokinen is on a different level than Stoll, Horcoff, and Arnott. The latter are defensive 3rd line guys who have experience, while Jokinen has actually anchored a top 6 line recently. I really cant believe you think those three are an improvement over Gagner...Sure they're not soft, but they're slow and have even worse hands. Yes, "the grass is greener" with Stoll and Arnott, but the reality is they are no better than Horcoff, if not worse.
I honestly would not mind Jokinen on a 1-2 year deal if it frees us up to move Gagner + say Jones for a another d-man ... do it.
Hindsight being what it is, I think I'd rather have Penner for the next two years over Hemsky. Though if Hemmer is willing to play LW some times and can click with Yakupov, I might change my mind quickly about that.
Yakupov and Hall have plenty of bite and skill. Hartikanen might end up being some of that bite in the top 6. Now 3 of our top 6 have bite, that's fine with me.
It wasn't that hard for Tambo to sign Hordichuck or Eager last year. Sure maybe term was a bit long for Eager, but I saw things that I liked with him. I felt Renny didn't use him to the degree he could have. The guy has speed, some skill, and heart. You can work with a guy to help him control his urges to put the team at a disadvantage when it comes to the PK, just like Cooke did for the Pens.
Defense and Goal are our weak spots. Thats where Tambo needs to concentrate his efforts after he "Hammers home a Nail"
Just a question -- has Mike Komisarek lost all semblance of toughness he had? I remember liking his game in Montreal a lot but it seems to have gone to crap in Toronto.
The Oilers need players like David Backes, Milan Lucic, Ryan Callahan, etc. but so does every other team in the league. As such, I think it is close to impossible to trade for those types of players and you have to draft and develop them.
Also, the Oilers had all kinds of bite and no (limited) skill for more than a decade and didn't accomplish much in the playoffs.
Just a question -- has Mike Komisarek lost all semblance of toughness he had? I remember liking his game in Montreal a lot but it seems to have gone to crap in Toronto.
I believe the laughs had him selling hotdogs this year in the stands.
Komisarek is a shadow of his former self, a defensive liability, and resident of the pressbox and at 4.5 mil per he is basically a really expensive pylon. Expect him to be buried in the marlies or waived in the next year.
You can pretty much be assured that if he was on our team we would certainly "bite" harder.
Komisarek is a shadow of his former self, a defensive liability, and resident of the pressbox and at 4.5 mil per he is basically a really expensive pylon. Expect him to be buried in the marlies or waived in the next year.
People said that about Andy Sutton too though and he turned out alright here. Probably not worth the risk unless Schenn is coming with him.
People said that about Andy Sutton too though and he turned out alright here. Probably not worth the risk unless Schenn is coming with him.
I don't disagree with the reference to Sutton but Komi has 3 more years on his deal at 4.5, big big risk in comparison to a guy on a one year deal who also happens to be a monster size wise.
I don't disagree with the reference to Sutton but Komi has 3 more years on his deal at 4.5, big big risk in comparison to a guy on a one year deal who also happens to be a monster size wise.
It's actually 2 years, but yeah I see what you're saying. I give him props for still wanting to go at Chara lol. Crazy *******.
People pick on guys like Eager, Hordichuk and such, the fact of the matter is we cannot roll 4 scoring lines. We need bottom six guys. Tough mean big dudes who hit at every oppurtunity.
No. Absolutely not. On trick ponies are one trick ponies, regardless of what the trick is.
What we need is balance, players who aren't the most skilled in the NHL, or the grittiest, but their combination of the two elements makes them the most effective. That's what you see on the teams that are having success in the play-offs right now.
In Edmonton it's:
First line -> tiny guys with sweet hands
Second line -> tiny guys who show flashes of sweet hands every once in a while
Third line -> guys who can block shots and play good positionally in their own zone
Fourth line -> 1 guy who can fight, 2 guys who can hit
On the good teams, it's:
First line -> strong guys with sweet hands
Second line -> strong guys who play an effective all around game
Third line -> guys who are very effective defensively, but still contribute goals regularly
Fourth line -> Guys who play with so much intensity that the other team has trouble getting out of their own zone
Komisarek is a shadow of his former self, a defensive liability, and resident of the pressbox and at 4.5 mil per he is basically a really expensive pylon. Expect him to be buried in the marlies or waived in the next year.
You can pretty much be assured that if he was on our team we would certainly "bite" harder.
Agreed, the guy has never been the same since the beatdown by Lucic!
You play the cards you're dealt. We don't NEED to be tougher than every team we play if we significantly outskill them. So Yakupov, Ebs, RNH, and Hall are not going anywhere.
Also, to the people that want to sign a guy like Parros/Hordichuk; that won't make us tougher to play against. It's about TEAM size+toughness, one guy doesn't change that.
