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To Van
B.Connolly
2012 1st(10th overall)
To Tampa
R.Loungo
Y.Sauve
2012 2nd
I think this trade could work for both organisations...tampa gets a goalie that can take them to the playoffs and a good (b level)prospect on defence...and van gets a good forward prospect and 1st. furthermore tampa has another 1st rounder with which they could take a goalie of the futre(ie M.Subban,or A.Vasilevski)win win.
Thoughts?
The only way Luongo is moved by the Canucks is if he takes a dump in the playoffs (again) and is run out of town. That, his ridiculous contract, NTC, and the few suitors who would be interested cripple his value.
Doubt Tampa would give up either of those pieces for him
Luongo for Lecavalier straight up is the absolute most I'd do. Luongo has a deal past the end of time and he's not exactly lighting the world on fire. I'd rather give up assets and acquire Schneider.
So Tampa gets something they desperately need while the Cancuks gets a higher paid guy (cap hit and salary) that they absolutely don't need?
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Originally Posted by Nacho Labrie
It's not the salary that's awful.
The term on Luongo doesn't even take him to Roloson's age. Don't want him that long? Trade him to a team that is trying to get to the cap floor who are working with a budget when the salary goes down.
Tampa has the position of strength in this trade. Luongo most likely will only go to a Florida team and if he is run out of town Tampa has the leverage.
That 10 pick becomes a good d man here in a couple of years, connolly becomes a future top 6 sooner rather than later. Yes Luongo would make us better between the pipes but leverages every other position for the future. Could get a stop gap goalie for a year like Vokoun for a year then wait out for other goalies next season. Van doesn't need Connolly because he is just another Hodgson for them. Never have to oppurtunity to play top 6.The only thing useful is the 10th pick. Not to mention Tampa takes a trade +4 million cap hit. Overall not a trade that helps either team.
I think something around Malone and the 1st for Luongo is more likely
People can argue value all they want, but it would still be a no from me. Luongo is a fine player, and in a vacuum I'd love to have him in net for the Bolts but in the business of the NHL that term is toxic.
why are people suggesting Lec coming back when his contract is almost equally as long.
All those thinking a long contract is bad are not thinking like a GM. If you think Luongo or players like Lecavalier or the Sedins are only going to be any good for a year or two at best, then a smart GM would not consider signing them at all or at best only as a rental for the last two months of a season. Especially at salary levels that elite NHL players can command.
If on the other hand the GM feels this is an elite player who shows signs he is going to be around for a long time, that same smart GM is going to try to get that player tied to their club for as long as possible. The advantage to the club is that the club isn't going to possibly lose him as a UFA nor are they going to be held ransom by the elite player wanting higher and higher salaries every time his contract is to expire.
Luongo is not only an elite NHL goaltender, he and the Sedins are the franchise players the team is built around. In an NHL where player salaries have continued to rise every year since the lockout, the Canucks have their franchise goal tender tied up for as long as they want him at a salary cap of just $5.33 mil. A salary much lower already then what teams like Nashville are having to pay to keep their elite goal tender who isn't even their franchise player (Weber and Suter are).
It just so happens that the Canucks have lucked out on one of their first round picks and that Schneider is showing all the signs of eventually also becoming an elite, franchise level goal tender. He is not at the level of Luongo yet, but that seems to be mostly due to age differences and experience. If Gillis offers either Schneider or Luongo on the trade market, I can assure you there will be a lot of interest around the league, even from clubs that supposedly already have a first string goalie. Of the two, Luongo would get the Canucks far more in return in a trade than Schneider and that is mainly because of Luongo's great contract as far as a team's stability goes and because of Luongo's experience and skills. Luongo doesn't earn Vezna consideration every year for nothing. Any club's elite player (goal tender or skater) is not expected to be the best every year, but they are expected to be consistantly in consideration for top rankings every year.
With the most recent events this wont happen. If Schneider or Luongo goes it'll be for a top 6 forward ++
What recent events? Vancouver losing in the 1st round? That would make Luongo even cheaper cause he'd be almost forced out of town. He has a terrible salery and a NTC that he'll only wave to either Florida team. If you think it's top 6 ++ your crazy, unless it's Schneider+Tanev+Raymond for Malone+Det1st+3rd.
