For Vancouver to come back a couple things need to happen.
They need the Kings to lose focus, which frankly won't happen under D. Sutter. I think he's the better coach. The Kings underperformed for a portion of the season, they added some serious pieces, and are far from the typical 8th seed.
from the Canucks side they need first of all to forget their antics, and focus on playing hockey. When things get hard they revert to trying to job the system, that will not work for them anymore, they went too far last year, they tried to embarrass the refs, by complaining in a presser, while doing exactly what they were complaining about themselves.
They are a super-skilled team, they are better when they focus on playing the game, not the system.
they have the skill to make this a series, but do they have the focus and the drive?
this series was never going to be a gimme, now it will be all the harder.
For Vancouver to come back a couple things need to happen.
They need the Kings to lose focus, which frankly won't happen under D. Sutter. I think he's the better coach. The Kings underperformed for a portion of the season, they added some serious pieces, and are far from the typical 8th seed.
from the Canucks side they need first of all to forget their antics, and focus on playing hockey. When things get hard they revert to trying to job the system, that will not work for them anymore, they went too far last year, they tried to embarrass the refs, by complaining in a presser, while doing exactly what they were complaining about themselves.
They are a super-skilled team, they are better when they focus on playing the game, not the system.
they have the skill to make this a series, but do they have the focus and the drive?
this series was never going to be a gimme, now it will be all the harder.
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Just think of the ability for LA to dictate match ups now.
Why, because it impacts your team now? The punishment was absolutely in line with other discipline handed out.
Did Kubina's head shot on Bolland cost the Hawks the series against VC last year? Bolland missed the first three games.
What about OV's hit on Campbell? It could have cost the Hawks the first series in 2010.
There are tons of examples. I wish Keith had not gone after Sedin in that matter. He should have just dropped the gloves after he felt his head was targeted. Stuff happens though. I don't think this series is any different with Daniel.
I can see the blame Keith hate becoming the excuse of the off-season. There is always something.
REALLY? You really think that the series wouldn't be any different if the canucks had their best scorer on the team? You really think that a top line of Burrows-Sedin-Hansen/Kassian/raymond/other revolving door player is not much better than Burrows-Sedin-Sedin? REALLY? I think the series would be 1-1, LA would have taken the first game, but with Daniel they don't get those 2 shorties in game 2 because with him the powerplay isn't complete garbage.
Kings was the team I did not want to face, they are an outstanding team that for whatever reason struggled in the regular season but could seriously step it up when needed, and they have. I wish they had won their last game against the Sharks
As a Kings fan, my main issue with Vancouver fans going into the series was getting the respect I thought the Kings deserved.
I think it's safe to say we've got their attention now.
But this series is not yet a runaway by any means. I keep thinking back to the post that Jannik Hansen hit in Game 1 with the score tied 1-1. If that shot moved over an inch it might have changed the entire complexion of not just the game but the series. So I'm definitely not ready to gloat. (Not yet at least.)
Ive said this so many times. When boyle scored in OT last game I knew we would lose against the kings. The kings are just a much better built team for the playoffs and have been playing UNREAL hockey since the trade deadline. The kings had respect from alot of the canuck fans that actually watch hockey. Of course there is the select few that don't know much that always portray us as bad guys.
REALLY? You really think that the series wouldn't be any different if the canucks had their best scorer on the team? You really think that a top line of Burrows-Sedin-Hansen/Kassian/raymond/other revolving door player is not much better than Burrows-Sedin-Sedin? REALLY? I think the series would be 1-1, LA would have taken the first game, but with Daniel they don't get those 2 shorties in game 2 because with him the powerplay isn't complete garbage.
It doesn't work like that. Kings would've been pushing more during 5-5 play and not sat back a bit after gaining leads from those shorties
It doesn't work like that. Kings would've been pushing more during 5-5 play and not sat back a bit after gaining leads from those shorties
They are able to push 5 on 5 more because there is only 1 line out there that is a serious scoring threat. With Daniel it becomes 3 lines that is a serious scoring threat. Canucks only have 1 line that can push 5 on 5 without Daniel. Henrik's line without Daniel is leaves much to be desired.
With Daniel you would see A LOT more pushback 5 on 5 from the Canucks.
I'm saying the Kings would be getting walked over, but for people to say that it would be no different if the Canucks had their leading scorer is just stupid.
They are able to push 5 on 5 more because there is only 1 line out there that is a serious scoring threat. With Daniel it becomes 3 lines that is a serious scoring threat. Canucks only have 1 line that can push 5 on 5 without Daniel. Henrik's line without Daniel is leaves much to be desired.
With Daniel you would see A LOT more pushback 5 on 5 from the Canucks.
I'm saying the Kings would be getting walked over, but for people to say that it would be no different if the Canucks had their leading scorer is just stupid.
Just stop. Although he's no Daniel Sedin, we'd be better with Gagne, too. All teams are dealing with injuries.
Just stop. Although he's no Daniel Sedin, we'd be better with Gagne, too. All teams are dealing with injuries.
Just stop. There's a difference between dealing with missing a Gagne type player and a D. Sedin type player. That's not even comparable. How many teams are dealing with missing their top scorer?
I'm hoping the canucks can turn the tables in LA, and I think they can but it's going to be tough.
The road games will tell us , they have had a season of playing simple solid hockey on the road missing Daniel Sedin is certainly hurting them we will see.
Before Game 2 I said the Kings needed to do everything they could to come home up 2-0, and their focus and special teams' domination made that possible.
I think the Kings are a different team under Sutter, and I hope they have learned that once you have a team down you can't give them any life whatsoever. The Kings' young stars are still maturing, but I like what I see with Doughty's poise and Kopitar's level of compete thus far.
Richards on this club makes a huge difference. The guy is just a playoff warrior. The Kings have never had this kind of depth in the playoffs before. I expect them to keep pressuring the Vancouver defense. As in games 1 and 2 if the Canuck defense turns the puck over it will be in their net.
Luongo the reason we have lost these 2? Absolutley not. probably been our best player and were it not for MANY dumb defensive plays would be amazing to this point.
Canucks dont have the heart to win? This team wants it more than anyone, i know every team wants it but these guys want it more its all they have thought about all season long not even thinking regular season at all, this may be why they have come out slow, having something on ur mind for a year straight and nothing else is drainging.
Wont win with AV? hello game 7 stanley cup finals. The guy can't physically play for the players when they make turnovers which lead to goals and cant finish shots there is nothign he can do.
Im sure there is more but i only read the first 3 pages.
I personally believe the series is tied 1-1 if Daniel was in the lineup. I just look at that first game and the Canuck powerplays in the 3rd period and think that it's the sort of situation that the Sedins usually come through with a big goal.
The Kings need to win this game almost just as much as the Canucks. If the series is tied 3-1 or 2-2 and the long break allows Daniel to come back, it will go 7 games with the Canucks having all the momentum.
Honestly if Daniel is likely out for the entire playoffs, I hope the Canucks lose in the first round, no point risking more injuries if winning the Stanley Cup is ruled out. It will also all the Kings fans a little bit of enjoyment before they are bounced in the 2nd round.
Just look way too erratic and out of sync out there. Giving up TWO SHGs is unacceptable. Nobody seems to be having any chemistry. The Kings are playing a lot smarter and defending very, very well.
All Vancouver really needs is refs that swallow their whistles, like they do so often in the playoffs.
Kings have been behind all of what, 3 minutes the first two games? They haven't been pushing during 5-5 play BC they haven't had to. The Nucks top 9 are probably a bit more explosive than the Kings, sure, but it isn't overwhelmingly in your teams' favor. This isn't the same group of slow, non-physical forwards from the series two years ago. With Carter the Kings are a pretty good team five on five
