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04-14-2012, 12:29 PM
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Pittsburgh based on Bryz

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04-14-2012, 12:34 PM
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I don't really feel like Quick has been that hot. He hasn't really been tested. Vancouver's poor play combined with LA's defensive tightness is doing the job for him.
Uhh...what?

Quick faced 26 shots in game 1 and 48 shot in game 2...what would qualify as being tested?

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04-14-2012, 12:35 PM
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Pittsburgh.

Van is done without Daniel.

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penguins, malkin and crosby are gonna go beast mode

bylsma should just make the line neal-crosby-malkin, they will score lots of goals

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04-14-2012, 12:57 PM
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Uhh...what?

Quick faced 26 shots in game 1 and 48 shot in game 2...what would qualify as being tested?
He's playing well no doubt, just not being forced to carry the team and steal games like what most nucks fans were expecting should we lose. Lots of point blanks, just no sustained pressure that puts the goalie on the spot. LA is playing solid all around.

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Pittsburgh, without Daniel I don't see the Canucks coming back from 2-0

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Pittsburg has too many weapons, and Philly has shown that they can give up a lot of goals..

LA on the other hand is not giving much of anything up and their offense is coming alive at the right time

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04-14-2012, 01:24 PM
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I said Penguins based on the opposing goaltender.

Ask yourself who is more likely to lose 4 out of the next 5, Quick or Bryzgalov?

Although I doubt either will, Bryzgalov is the more streaky of the 2, Quick is very consistent.
No matter how many goals the Pens can score on Bryz, they can't defend worth jack, so I don't really see how that makes a difference. At least Vancouver has some D.

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Vancouver has played worse comparatively to LA than Pittsburgh has to Philly.

Vancouver is also missing their best player for the rest of the playoffs. I don't see them making it past the first round.

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04-14-2012, 01:29 PM
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If the Pens D-men decide to actually play hockey instead of counting how much of Lemieux's money they're stealing, I'll give 'em a chance.

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04-14-2012, 01:37 PM
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I wouldn't count Pittsburgh out if they were down 0-3 and trailing in the 3rd period of Game 4... I still think they win their series.

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04-14-2012, 01:52 PM
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definitely the penguins.

if penguins were also missing their best player i would say the canucks have a better chance.

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No Daniel Sedin = Little hope for Vancouver.

Pens have a shot. Can never count out a team with Crosby and Malkin. Those guys can turn it on in a hurry. Defense needs to be a lot better though. Can't keep letting rookies beat them.

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I think Vancouver has a better chance. Pit struggles mightily against the Flyers.

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Vancouver has the better chance, flyers are just a much better team than the kings and it'll be harder to come back on them, also the Flyers own the Pens, terrible matchup for the pens

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penguins, malkin and crosby are gonna go beast mode

bylsma should just make the line neal-crosby-malkin, they will score lots of goals
Then be completely and utterly dominated by lines 2 through 4.... The flyers would love to put Couturier against a line of Neal-Crosby-Malkin.. Kill 3 birds with 1 stone

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Pittsburgh based on Bryz
Bryz has been much better than Fluery and clearly the better goalie. I wouldn't be surprised to see Brent Johnson game 3

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Both will get swept.

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I hope neither but realistically the Pens.

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penguins, malkin and crosby are gonna go beast mode

bylsma should just make the line neal-crosby-malkin, they will score lots of goals
Malkin and Neal are -5 and -4. It's not for no reason. Crosby's line is one of our very few positives, putting him with those two is just going to make things worse.

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Probably Pittsburgh, but would make for an amazing playoff year if both these teams were gone early.
I believe the last time a round-up of the last 30 years was done, the stats indicated that of all teams in 7 game series who have lost their first 2 games at home while being the higher seed, somewhere in the range of 70% lost the series.

Not sure how to compound that with two teams facing the same scenario, but it has to be a good 90% chance one of these two teams will lose.

Round-up of last ten instances:

Flyers against Bruins 2nd Round 2011
Bruins won in 4

Capitals against Lightning in 2nd Round 2011
Lightning won in 4

Bruins against Canadiens in 1st Round 2011
Bruins won in 7

Sharks against Blackhawks in Conference Finals 2010
Hawks won in 4

Sharks against Ducks in 1st Round 2009
Ducks won in 6

Capitals against Rangers in 1st Round 2009
Capitals won in 7

Sharks against Stars in 2nd Round 2008
Stars won in 6

Ducks against Stars in 1st Round 2008
Stars won in 6

Devils against Rangers in 1st Round 2008
Rangers won in 5

Sabres against Senators in Conference Finals 2007
Senators in 5


So there you have it, out of the last 10 circumstances, 20% of higher seeds came back, needing 7 games in both.

30% of the circumstances ended up in sweeps for the lower seed.

So if by the last ten there's been a 20% chance in a team coming back, then in theory given two circumstances there's a 10% chance both teams succeed. We'll see.

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Pitt, nucks are toast

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Pittsburgh. Vancouver is a listless team that lacks any desire or leadership. I'm not even that angry about the 1st round loss because I know big changes are coming.

I have spoken to a few people who have met alot of the players out in bars and clubs in Vancouver and they all say the same thing: there are 4 mini teams thrown into one locker room and forced to wear the same jersey. Not a real team, that is why you see nobody playing for eachother or any pushback. Just a team that has given up on each other and on hockey.

But I don't care about the Canucks anymore this spring, GO FLYERS GO!!!!!!

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Penguins. The Canucks are as good as done. No D. Sedib doesn't help the situation, atleast Pittsburgh is fully healthy.

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I don't really feel like Quick has been that hot. He hasn't really been tested. Vancouver's poor play combined with LA's defensive tightness is doing the job for him.
46 saves out of 48 shot attempts last night, and he hasn't been tested?

22 of those were in the third period. He's been tested all right.

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