get rid of the ****ing drop pass. teams can see it a mile away coming. change the personall on the pp units. get rid of raymond put kassian tell him to park his ass in front of the net. ebbett on the 2nd unit..??? makes me miss cody controlling the halfwall and acutally firing the puck on the net. the guys always pass pass. stop looking for the pretty plays. simpler is always better. take a shot. crash the net.
This. It's not a coincidence that the only time the drop pass has worked in last 6 ****ing months was against the Oilers. I was scared after that game because I knew they'd think they were outsmarting people again
2. Fact is ehrhoff was our best dman in skating the puck up the ice. Thats a huge missing ingredient. His point shot and passing is pretty good as well.
And while ehrhoff is not the best defensive dman, the fact that he was a plus + 55 during his time in Vancouver, shows he wasn't that bad on defense?
He is a Dman that is good on the pp and for our offence. But imo he costed us more than produced last time in the playoffs. Check his stats he is the worst minus player on the team in the playoffs. The real reason we are losing is because we have turnovers by our D. We do not need a poor defensemen in this series. It would hurt us more than it helps even if he was more offensively gifted.
This rests squarely on AV's shoulders. Its not just the PP that needs fixing. Team defense is not good enough, our PP looks confused, and our passes out of our own zone are a joke. LA's PP gains our blueline with ease, while we are pressured all 200 feet and never really get set up.
Our coaching is so bad right now, that the Kings are a better team than us when we have an extra player on the ice.
Wake the hell up AV - or you will be made available for the Habs.
they keep trying the same **** over and over again, no adjustments at all, definitely sounds like an AV thing
burrows and kesler have totally been ineffective at both moving the puck smartly and puck retrieval
edler and salo have gone way downhill since the start of the season, can't even get their shots through when they do try a shot, don't even get me started on that drop pass
second unit doesn't really know what they're doing, but it's been that way for a while. the only time i can remember the second unit consistently looking organized was when hodgson was on it
Ballard was a powerplay contributor for Phoenix and Florida, and is the most talented player on the entire damn team at entering the zone, get him out there.
Ballard has shown little or no offensive capability since arriving in Vancouver.
Please play catch at the point. Please! I just want to see a few consecutive passes at the point between the defenseman. Nothing would make me feel happier. It is a no risk play and it can open things up, create lanes, and it can catch the penalty killers out of position.
It's as if the PP units have been instructed not to pass laterally at the point.
LA has been having a forward high between the points on the PK.
You mean the one that prevents Salo from winding up and launching his cannon from the point?
The one that prevents the D from passing back and forth to set up a shot.
Perhaps time to rotate one point man closer to the middle of the ice and move the puck to the half boards while bring the other D in down low for a back door play - that is where Gragnani could be useful on the PP but then you have to live with his defensive deficiencies at ES.
As much as 'Ehrhoff' sounds like an easy answer and a bit of a cop-out, i think there's a lot more truth to it than some would like to admit. There are other problems as well, but the PP and even the even strength breakout have missed what he brought to the table. And for all the complaints of his suspect defensive reliability and lack of toughness, he was still a significant positive net contributor.
The thing that is missed there, is not only his instincts and ability in quickly bringing the puck up ice and making decisions on those drop-passes and other options quickly and correctly, but also his quick decisionmaking at the point once the zone was gained as well. So often he and Henrik would play pitch and catch in tight quarters on the half boards and point, which broke down the box and allowed them to get set up. He was a true 'QB' on the Powerplay, something we no longer necessarily have. Moving up ice and holding the line, he had a knack for 'reading defences' just like a good quarterback, and making the appropriate adjustments on the fly.
In contrast, we now have a guy like Hamhuis on the point, who isn't nearly as confident in his offensive decisionmaking, makes slow reads on what the penalty-killers are doing, and often those reads are poor when then eventually do get locked in.
However, this also falls on Brown. Fact of the matter is, Ehrhoff is gone. He was the straw that stirred the drink and made that PP setup really work. Sure it got by alright for a little while this year without him, but it's become robotic and predictable, without Ehrhoff to improvise and make subtle adjustments on the fly. Teams caught on to the initial nuances, and it's made the whole operation predictable and fairly easily neutralized (or worse in the case of the shorthanded chances against). But instead of reworking the plan to suit the personel that we do still have available...they just rotate various different players through different roles trying to make the same predictable old PP work again.
Every so often they add 1 new wrinkle. When the put Kesler on the point, it looked good for a couple attempts, but then it became clear as day that they were trying to set up that particular one-timer. That's been the PP this year in a nutshell. Trying to implement one new wrinkle here or there, and stubbornly forcing it until it's well beyond dead and neutralized.
according to jim jamison on the twitterverse. the nucks arent using the "drop pass" anymore in their powerplay. Burrows now out with second unit (7-36), plus 3-6 on d. First unit: 20-33-17; Ds 23-2.
according to jim jamison on the twitterverse. the nucks arent using the "drop pass" anymore in their powerplay. Burrows now out with second unit (7-36), plus 3-6 on d. First unit: 20-33-17; Ds 23-2.
Beat me to it. Looks like the thick headed coaching staff finally figured it out.
this is why i hate the coaching staff. they can't even adjust in game. but have to wait to lose 2 games before making any changes...
When did we start this drop-pass stuff? It worked for the first little bit, then once January came around it was terrible and predictable and the coaching staff has FINALLY changed it. After now being down 0-2 in a playoff series. Talk about too little too late.
When did we start this drop-pass stuff? It worked for the first little bit, then once January came around it was terrible and predictable and the coaching staff has FINALLY changed it. After now being down 0-2 in a playoff series. Talk about too little too late.
i think around november/december into jan after the 4 goal pp in boston. the pp has been horrific. 5 on 3's are the worst... they pass pass but never shoot. ****ing
Darryl Sutter and the LA Kings can probably describe the Canucks PP better than anyone, and that includes the Canucks coaching staff.
How many top 5 PP's have you coached?
Missing Daniel is tough for this team because realistically, we have two players that can make a play under pressure, Hank and Dank. Sutter is a very good defensive coach, they are working hard to deny Henrik the puck and pressure everyone else. Someone else needs to step up and make a play.
