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04-14-2012, 09:20 AM
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LA has been playing playoff hockey for the better part of the second half. San Jose was a huge lesson for this team at the end of the season. LA is built on defense and system. I think the majority of VC fans saw this coming into the series. Vancouver still scares me and that two goal lead feeling is creeping in. I think if LA can find a killer instinct, they might be a threat to do more than maybe knock out the top team in the league.

One game at a time boys. GO KINGS GO!

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LA has been playing playoff hockey for the better part of the second half. San Jose was a huge lesson for this team at the end of the season. LA is built on defense and system. I think the majority of VC fans saw this coming into the series. Vancouver still scares me and that two goal lead feeling is creeping in. I think if LA can find a killer instinct, they might be a threat to do more than maybe knock out the top team in the league.

One game at a time boys. GO KINGS GO!
The Kings need to avoid doing or allowing things to happen which can wake the Canucks up....the last 4 minutes of last night's game may very well have done that...they need to avoid getting into any lengthy skirmishes or fights, allowing bad goals, things of that sort...we've seen before how those 3 things can wake up a dead team in a series.

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LA has been playing playoff hockey for the better part of the second half. San Jose was a huge lesson for this team at the end of the season. LA is built on defense and system. I think the majority of VC fans saw this coming into the series. Vancouver still scares me and that two goal lead feeling is creeping in. I think if LA can find a killer instinct, they might be a threat to do more than maybe knock out the top team in the league.

One game at a time boys. GO KINGS GO!
Yep, just stick to the game plan one period at a time. LA does seem extremely focused which will be needed coming home. Nothing comes cheap and nothing is over in this series.

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04-14-2012, 09:38 AM
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The Kings need to avoid doing or allowing things to happen which can wake the Canucks up....the last 4 minutes of last night's game may very well have done that...they need to avoid getting into any lengthy skirmishes or fights, allowing bad goals, things of that sort...we've seen before how those 3 things can wake up a dead team in a series.
I think the Kings handled the final 4 minutes just fine. Doughty didn't take the bait earlier and the Kings ended up on the PP. 5-on-5 has been pretty even, it's the special teams that the Kings are dominating.

If the Kings responded, then I agree that Vancouver could have used that to "wake" up, but I think the Kings are just a good defensive team with a goalie playing his best this season. Vancouver is getting frustrated, but the series isn't over.

Kings have won 2 playoff games the past 3 seasons and have zero series wins. Kings were up 2-1 in games and leading in the third at home against Vancouver and lost in 6 games.

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Kings just look a lot better. Period

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04-14-2012, 09:53 AM
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Shades of 2010 when it comes to how these games have been won. Kings dominating on special teams. It's not a matter of if, but when the Canucks solve the special teams problem. That's when the Kings really have to step it up. The Canucks still have time to solve the Kings. As Phil Jackson once said, if you can't figure out your opponent by game 4, you won't win the series.

In 2010, the Canucks figured out the Kings by game 4 and didn't look back. Lets hope the Kings are ready for it and close the series out.

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Not much needs to be said from a Canuck perspective, really - they've been dreadful and their PP has been worse. Need to right the ship to avoid getting knocked out in the first round.

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Shades of 2010 when it comes to how these games have been won. Kings dominating on special teams. It's not a matter of if, but when the Canucks solve the special teams problem. That's when the Kings really have to step it up. The Canucks still have time to solve the Kings. As Phil Jackson once said, if you can't figure out your opponent by game 4, you won't win the series.

In 2010, the Canucks figured out the Kings by game 4 and didn't look back. Lets hope the Kings are ready for it and close the series out.
Totally true but the challenge is much tougher this year for the Canucks. I was watching the highlights of those games from 2010 yesterday and we are a seriously better team then we were then. We were playing deadweight like Randy Jones, Peter Harold, Richard Clune, Modine, Halpern etc.

We are seriously deeper throughout our lineup. They may be weaker (and definitely are without Sedin #2) as well.

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Going better than -2 on the power play would be a start.

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Shades of 2010 when it comes to how these games have been won. Kings dominating on special teams. It's not a matter of if, but when the Canucks solve the special teams problem. That's when the Kings really have to step it up. The Canucks still have time to solve the Kings. As Phil Jackson once said, if you can't figure out your opponent by game 4, you won't win the series.

In 2010, the Canucks figured out the Kings by game 4 and didn't look back. Lets hope the Kings are ready for it and close the series out.
That was with TM though. Sutter is much better.

KHG: you were one of the people saying that the Kings didn't play thir best game in game 1 and look at the adjustments Sutter made.

I also think Murray never pulling Quick in that series and the SJ one lost us both series.

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Shades of 2010 when it comes to how these games have been won. Kings dominating on special teams. It's not a matter of if, but when the Canucks solve the special teams problem. That's when the Kings really have to step it up. The Canucks still have time to solve the Kings. As Phil Jackson once said, if you can't figure out your opponent by game 4, you won't win the series.

In 2010, the Canucks figured out the Kings by game 4 and didn't look back. Lets hope the Kings are ready for it and close the series out.
Yup. Although I never pictured our PP biting us so badly it was actually allowing multiple goals against in a game. Didn't think it was possible for our special teams to reach 2010 levels of embarrassment, but they sure seem to be trying.

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04-14-2012, 10:31 AM
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I have a feeling that whatever team scores more goals in this next game is going to win this game. Just a hunch.
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04-14-2012, 10:52 AM
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I was a little surprised at how effective the Kings' PK continued to be with Willie Mitchell in the box a couple of times. The two forward groups the Kings usually send out of Kopitar/Brown and Richards/Carter are dangerous. The opponent's PP unit has to be aware or the Kings will score a SH goal.

When they aren't looking for offense Greene, Mitchell, Stoll and Lewis can shutdown the other team's PP quite well.

Just a sidenote, I am very pleased with the poise Doughty has shown in this series thus far. He is staying away from the extra garbage and knows he is needed on the ice and needs to stay out of the box. He still isn't playing his best hockey, but he is eating huge minutes and the Kings break out of the zone pretty easily whenever he is controlling things one the back end.

Richards in beast mode in Game 1, Kopitar/Brown in Game 2. Looking for Carter to go off now in Game 3.

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I get the feeling that Schneider will get the start, not because of anything Luongo-related, he's done his job, but because this team needs a kick in the ass and a goaltending change may be what is needed to wake them up.

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with 7 mins to go, the Canucks had 35 shots. I have no idea how they apparently managed 13 shots in those final 7 minutes. That being said the Canucks threw a lot of very low scoring shots at Quick. I think the Kings generated the majority of the high scoring chances, and Luongo had to once again come up with a bunch of big saves to keep the Canucks in it.

Huge relief for King somehow missing that empty net in the 1st period aswell

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I was a little surprised at how effective the Kings' PK continued to be with Willie Mitchell in the box a couple of times. The two forward groups the Kings usually send out of Kopitar/Brown and Richards/Carter are dangerous. The opponent's PP unit has to be aware or the Kings will score a SH goal.
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After Brown's two shorties we were joking that Mitchell should take another penalty.

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Doughty picked a great time to find his game after a somewhat disappointing regular season. The guy has been rock out there.

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Canucks in 5.

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I was a little surprised at how effective the Kings' PK continued to be with Willie Mitchell in the box a couple of times. The two forward groups the Kings usually send out of Kopitar/Brown and Richards/Carter are dangerous. The opponent's PP unit has to be aware or the Kings will score a SH goal.

When they aren't looking for offense Greene, Mitchell, Stoll and Lewis can shutdown the other team's PP quite well.

Just a sidenote, I am very pleased with the poise Doughty has shown in this series thus far. He is staying away from the extra garbage and knows he is needed on the ice and needs to stay out of the box. He still isn't playing his best hockey, but he is eating huge minutes and the Kings break out of the zone pretty easily whenever he is controlling things one the back end.

Richards in beast mode in Game 1, Kopitar/Brown in Game 2. Looking for Carter to go off now in Game 3.
Richards, Doughty and Penner all had garbage regular seasons but look re-born in the playoffs. Doughty and Richards in particular look like star players, something we never saw this season, totally changes the dynamic of the team.

Greene and Mitchell are just rocks. I have been critical of Greene's play in the past because he played with a stupid aggression, (see 2011 playoffs) but this year he is playing smart, physical hockey and staying out of the box. He was excellent all season and has continued it through two playoff games.

And there aren't enough superlatives to describe the play of Dustin Brown down the stretch and into the playoffs. Brown has been the Kings best player the past couple of months, yes even better than Quick.

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Last night, I met a Kings fan, and he said how's it feel to be down 2 - 0. I simply looked at him and smiled and said. I'm glad you're enjoying this now, because it takes 4 to win. I asked him where he was from and he said LA. I just smiled and chuckled.

Last time I met an ignorant fan who spat on my Team Canada flag and jersey while I was in Portland, Oregon during the Olympics, when we lost to USA during the Round Robin. I said to him we'll see them in the Gold Medal game. What happened then?

Moral of the story: It takes 4 Kings fans, don't get ahead of yourself.


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Last night, I met a Kings fan, and he said how's it feel to be down 2 - 0. I simply looked at him and smiled and said. I'm glad you're enjoying this now, because it takes 4 to win. I asked him where he was from and he said LA. I just smiled and chuckled.

Last time I met an ignorant fan who spat on my Team Canada flag and jersey while I was in Portland, Oregon during the Olympics, when we lost to USA during the Round Robin. I said to him we'll see them in the Gold Medal game. What happened then? And you wonder why I hate Americans.

Moral of the story: It takes 4 Kings fans, don't get ahead of yourself.
Haha a couple of bad incidents and you "hate Americans".

When I went to Montreal wearing Bruins gear i was berated with insults in French repeatedly, I guess I should hate all Canadians.

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Last night, I met a Kings fan, and he said how's it feel to be down 2 - 0. I simply looked at him and smiled and said. I'm glad you're enjoying this now, because it takes 4 to win. I asked him where he was from and he said LA. I just smiled and chuckled.

Last time I met an ignorant fan who spat on my Team Canada flag and jersey while I was in Portland, Oregon during the Olympics, when we lost to USA during the Round Robin. I said to him we'll see them in the Gold Medal game. What happened then? And you wonder why I hate Americans.

Moral of the story: It takes 4 Kings fans, don't get ahead of yourself.
I still don't see any Kings fans saying anything different. I think a lot of Kings fans know just how easily they can lose this series. It seems to be Vancouver fans just projecting on Kings fans.

I'm surprised that Vancouver fans are shocked that Kings fans are happy with a 2-0 start on the road. Kopitar, Williams, Carter and Doughty have zero goals and the Kings are up 2-0. Kings fans are going to be happy, nothing wrong with that.

The Kings players and Sutter are not taking the Canucks lightly and the Canucks need to elevate their game if they want to win the series. If they are waiting for the Kings to fold, they will not win the series. This is not Murray's Kings anymore, Sutter has them focused.

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