Vancouver would make a coaching change, however won't shake up the core of their team. They'd give it a full season under the new coach before even thinking of touching that core.
San Jose is the team that will most likely make some moves.
Chris Stewart out of St Louis is a healthy scratch in the playoffs which means he'll be a Leaf next year.
Vancouver would make a coaching change, however won't shake up the core of their team. They'd give it a full season under the new coach before even thinking of touching that core.
San Jose is the team that will most likely make some moves.
Regardless of what Vancouver does in the playoffs (and I have a feeling they're going out in four straight) they're going to try and move Luongo. I don't know how successful they will be with the uncertainty over the CBA. But it feels like that relationship has run its course.
I agree on San Jose. They feel like they're entering into the territory that Calgary was in a few years ago. They have slipped out of the upper echelon territory into struggling to make the playoffs and the next step down is finishing 9th or 10th.
If San Jose is out early, they will definitely make moves. This team has just been a huge failure for many years, when it comes to the players.
They will probably want to move players like Pavelski and Clowe since they already have replacements for them. If Burke can get one or both, I would be ecstatic.
They're completely convince Semin is not a player they should invest in long term. He'll probably just walk this summer...maybe all the way to the KHL. They'll also look to build a Dale Hunter team, which will have a lot more grit all over the ice. Not that I've read anything, but I see the Caps as a great place for Nash to land...and they have the young pieces to do it.
With two firsts in the top 20, as well as Kuznetsov and Galiev potentially joining the team, they'll look a lot different then they have in the past.
Also, just realized they need to qualify Green for 5M this summer. Coming off 2 very short seasons...is he worth it? What could they get on the market for him?
Luongo for our first rounder 2012.They badly need somewhere to dump that contract and Burke is here to help other franchises rebuild.Luongo is as good as people think and is in decline.Even if we got him,we wouldn't make the playoffs.But yeah,Vancouver will be the first to make changes after a first round dump.
Luongo would be nice, but that contract is a non-starter, as far as I'm concerned. How could we even contemplate taking that on? Even for free? I certainly wouldn't give up any assets for it, even though Luongo may be one of the best in the league.
Luongo would be nice, but that contract is a non-starter, as far as I'm concerned. How could we even contemplate taking that on? Even for free? I certainly wouldn't give up any assets for it, even though Luongo may be one of the best in the league.
what we need is a team to go out early think there close and want to add and are willing to overpay with there prospects to get better like for example NYR if they lose to Ottawa might be willing to throw in a Kreider for something(unlikely since NYR seem like they finally have the whole sell the farm for anything mentality gone) but thats the type of deal we need. similar to how Minny got Coyle for Burns.
Luongo for our first rounder 2012.They badly need somewhere to dump that contract and Burke is here to help other franchises rebuild.Luongo is as good as people think and is in decline.Even if we got him,we wouldn't make the playoffs.But yeah,Vancouver will be the first to make changes after a first round dump.
If Vancouver dumps him, I don't think they should expect a lot back in return. Literally, give them scraps: Holzer, MacArthur, Scrivens, that kind of thing. And I don't mean all three in a package either. They'll want the cash savings and cap freedom, and we're rich.
Still, I think I'd rather get Fleury out of Pittsburgh.
Thats just plain silly. Why would you want that ugly contract? No wonder we traded Tuuka Rask, 1st, 2nd, 4th for goalies that never worked out. Sure Luongo will most likely be better then what we have and had, but for how long? 3-4 yrs? We're better off targeting Bernier from LA, at least hes young and may be entering goalie prime
Because going after guys like Bernier is what's set us back. Toskala and Raycroft were not defacto starters, they were good goalies that "could totally be starters one day" and the Leafs ponied up to get them. Also "goalie prime?" what? The most dominant goalies in the NHL are mostly in their 30s. Lundqvist, Thomas, Smith, Kiipprusoff, Luongo
If it wasn't for Quick, Price and Schneider no one would really bring up a prime. A lot of 30+ goalies have been amazing.
Luongo would be great for the Leafs, the question is asking price. It also could be very very very high.
If Vancouver dumps him, I don't think they should expect a lot back in return. Literally, give them scraps: Holzer, MacArthur, Scrivens, that kind of thing. And I don't mean all three in a package either. They'll want the cash savings and cap freedom, and we're rich.
Still, I think I'd rather get Fleury out of Pittsburgh.
But Fleury has been the backbone of that team. He and Malkin pretty much kept Pittsburgh alive when Crosby went down and there is literally no one in Pittsburgh that can challenge him for the job. They're perfectly content with MAF. Seriously what would the thought process be? "Well this goaltender just didn't seem to bring it against the Flyers, just like the rest of our team.." "TRADE HIM!" "YES OBVIOUSLY, GET BURKIE ON THE PHONE REIMER, MACARTHUR AND A 2013 1st!"
It is bad, throwing money at junk players and burying them.Burke would be fired in the real world for that.He should have to be a real GM and assess talent properly.That being said we could offer Komisarek for Luongo plus and then use Reimer if we make the playoffs.Luongo may have 1 year left.
The CBA will likely close the bad GM/Burke clause meaning we are handcuffed.At that point people will realize how stupid that plan is.Play the youth and keep your picks.
Luongo isn't the answer. If the Canucks move him for nothing to get rid of the cap hit, maybe. But I don't like his age, the contract, or the fact that he just isn't that good, especially under pressure.
Also, anyone know if he has a no-movement clause? Might not be easy to bury him in the minors to force a retirement.
They're completely convince Semin is not a player they should invest in long term. He'll probably just walk this summer...maybe all the way to the KHL. They'll also look to build a Dale Hunter team, which will have a lot more grit all over the ice. Not that I've read anything, but I see the Caps as a great place for Nash to land...and they have the young pieces to do it.
With two firsts in the top 20, as well as Kuznetsov and Galiev potentially joining the team, they'll look a lot different then they have in the past.
Also, just realized they need to qualify Green for 5M this summer. Coming off 2 very short seasons...is he worth it? What could they get on the market for him?
They don't have to invest in him long term neither the team nor the players wants that
Semin is fine taking one year contracts with the Caps year after the year and the Caps are fine giving them
Nash isn't close to a big enough upgrade on Semin to justify giving up 3 or 4 quality pieces to get him.
Luongo isn't the answer. If the Canucks move him for nothing to get rid of the cap hit, maybe. But I don't like his age, the contract, or the fact that he just isn't that good, especially under pressure.
Also, anyone know if he has a no-movement clause? Might not be easy to bury him in the minors to force a retirement.
Solid points.
Personally, I would steer well clear of Luongo.
My gut says that Vancouver will move him for a non-premium return in the summer if they can, and that might be ideal for Burke as he will be focusing his assets elsewhere (#1 C, etc).
But there is a lot to not like about Lou, including his contract, his age, and his seeming inability to steal games lately. My question is this - if the potential goalie coming into town, cannot steal games for this team, then why bring him in? They will be no better off than the guys before them.
Lou isn't the answer, but I fear that it may be Burke's best option moving forward.
Vacouver for sure. We already saw them deal their top prospect for toughness to address an area that was weak last playoffs. Now with Schneider being an RFA, one of Bobby Lu or himself will be shown the door this offseason.
Vancouver is gonna blow it up unless they rally for an epic comeback. Doubt it though. They are too soft. Good enough for Prez trophy when playing in regular season games. The Sedins can really rack up those points in mid February games against the Blue Jackets..hahaha. Luongo or Schnieder will be traded. Perhaps even someone like Kesler. Vigneault will be tossed almost certainly and Gillis is probably walking on thin ice too.
Because one he won't cost as much as Bernier, who is an unproven commodity and not a solution to our goaltending issue. Luongo on the other hand will be turning 34 and has about 4-5 more years in him.
Did you watch Burke at the end of the year? They said they were looking for a veteran who will take the reins for 3-4 seasons. Luongo fits that bill perfectly.
Watch the Canucks series, he's not the reason they're losing right now. Their entire season they have been riding their goaltending. The contract may be bad, but it can be buried. He has a NTC not a NMC.
Explain to me how an unproven net minder is worth more in a deal than a guy that's been to game 7 of the stanley cup and has a gold medal? Especially when he hasn't been the problem in Vancouver. Especially since either teams won't be looking for futures.
But Fleury has been the backbone of that team. He and Malkin pretty much kept Pittsburgh alive when Crosby went down and there is literally no one in Pittsburgh that can challenge him for the job. They're perfectly content with MAF. Seriously what would the thought process be? "Well this goaltender just didn't seem to bring it against the Flyers, just like the rest of our team.." "TRADE HIM!" "YES OBVIOUSLY, GET BURKIE ON THE PHONE REIMER, MACARTHUR AND A 2013 1st!"
