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04-15-2012, 03:14 AM
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With the current rules, Gretzky in his prime would dominate.
I know. However, I couldn't root for a team with Gretzky.

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my entire roster... except jeff schultz, he is off limits

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For Gretzky at 20 years old? Man, there's not a player in the league I wouldn't trade for him.
I think you are missing the point here..

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Gretzky played in a cheesy era. If he were to play at his prime in today's game he wouldn't rack up more than 120 points. I'm tired of all these players that played back in the day and racked up cheesy stats such as 50 in 50. 163 assists in one season? Such BS. Much easier to score back then, No doubt Crosby is better than this overrated ****.
How lovely. Now kind sir, head to the History Section and tell that to guys in there. And get you nice arguments totally murdered.

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Franzen is fair, but 1st rounder are 1st rounders.

Five 1st round draft picks is good no matter where they are.

Okay, maybe five 1sts, three 2nds and three 3rds?

I wouldn't want to trade too many players.

So Franzen, Filppula, Bertuzzi, White and all those picks.
Big difference on drafting 25th or 1st. I mean, very ****ing BIG difference.

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Gretzky was traded 3 times... chances are you could get him for that
20-year old Gretzky, after everyone knows how good his career became? No chance at all.

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If there is "a correct answer", why bother asking question ?

It makes me sorry that Boston fans are willing to pay for Gretzky. Is winning really everything for you ? Team identity doesn't matter ?
Cause you don't know the correct answer. There, you did it too. See?

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04-15-2012, 04:04 AM
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D Sedin, H Sedin, Kesler, Burrows, Luongo/Schneider, 10 1st rounders. Gretzky would turn Higgins/ Raymond/ Booth/ whoever was on his line into premier goal scorers. Fill the holes with FA signings who'd want to play with the best player in the world, pour yourself a glass of scotch, sit back, relax, and watch the magic as it happens.

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04-15-2012, 04:32 AM
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In playoff pools back in those days people couldn't select Gretzky straight up, it was either a choice of his goals for one selection or assits for the other selection. Yes that is right, drafts split Gretzky from one player into two players. It's like splitting the atom almost.
Didn't know that. That's incredible.

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04-15-2012, 04:40 AM
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Why would everyone trade their whole team for this guy? Gretzky ALONE ain't as good as core of your team. Gretzky alone won't make you contender, If you trade everyone for him. Hockey is about making your team better, trading everyone for Gretzky wouldn't make your team better, It would make it worse.

I would probably give up all of our best prospects for him, but not any part of our current core, so we'd have realistic chance to succeed with Gretzky.

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Why would everyone trade their whole team for this guy? Gretzky ALONE ain't as good as core of your team. Gretzky alone won't make you contender, If you trade everyone for him. Hockey is about making your team better, trading everyone for Gretzky wouldn't make your team better, It would make it worse.

I would probably give up all of our best prospects for him, but not any part of our current core, so we'd have realistic chance to succeed with Gretzky.
Do you realize how many free agents will flock to you just because you have the Great One? I'm sure if you put people like Bertuzzi or Raymond on his line, they would become premier goal scorers. Now think about what would happen if you put someone like Stamkos or Perry.

As for the question, the Wings would give up:

Datsyuk, Franzen, Stuart, Ericsson, Hudler, and 5 first rounders.

We would also make some additional moves to complete our team

White, Bertuzzi, Kronwall, and 3 firsts for Selanne and Kurri at 20. Now we have Wayne's wingers.
And then we draft Yzerman, our second line center.

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Would Kesler + Schneider + 3 mid 1st Round Picks + $30 Million get a healthy 20 year old Crosby, Cooke and Orpik?

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leafs would have to give up kessel, lupul, grabo, gardiner, phaneuf, multiple firstt round picks (4?). Throw in all top prospects and even that probably wouldnt be enough.

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Why would everyone trade their whole team for this guy? Gretzky ALONE ain't as good as core of your team. Gretzky alone won't make you contender, If you trade everyone for him. Hockey is about making your team better, trading everyone for Gretzky wouldn't make your team better, It would make it worse.

I would probably give up all of our best prospects for him, but not any part of our current core, so we'd have realistic chance to succeed with Gretzky.
You have got to be smoking something man. Throw a team full of minor leaguers with gretsky and they'd make the playoffs. No team adding gretsky would get worse. ever.

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04-15-2012, 07:25 AM
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Gretzky played in a cheesy era. If he were to play at his prime in today's game he wouldn't rack up more than 120 points. I'm tired of all these players that played back in the day and racked up cheesy stats such as 50 in 50. 163 assists in one season? Such BS. Much easier to score back then, No doubt Crosby is better than this overrated ****.
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I would trade everyone EXCEPT Karlsson. Imagine Karlsson AND Gretzky!!! Coffey part deux.
With all due respect if Gretzky was the piece coming back and Karlsson was the piece they asked for Karlsson would be on the next bus out of town.

At this point Karlsson has a lot to prove before he is the next Coffey. And I can tell you that on the 80's Oilers Coffey was no where near as valuable as Gretzky.

A real hockey trade for Gretzky would make little sense. You would strip your team of so much of its depth that you would be left with little to work with.

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With the current rules, Gretzky in his prime would dominate.
He would also probably be out with a concussion.

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JVR, Meszaros, and a 2nd. ;-)

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Now some fanboys and patriots might fury up from this post, this is just how I view things.

Not worth both Malkin & Crosby. He would definately be a prime candidate for the Art Ross for the next 10 years, but so are both Malkin & Crosby up there, not worth both of them.

The overall level of the league is so much better now. People have positional awareness in defence, the goalies equipment and butterfly style would affect. Also hockey is more wide spread than then. The best Europeans are here in masses now, remove most of them and add the AHL players to fill it out and the league today would still be better in overall skill than it was in the early 80's to mid 80's. Many things affected to that, like lots of expansion teams from the late 60's to 70's and teams managements done poorly. Edmonton was a real odd one out with lots of young talent being there and then there definately was one of the best ever. One would argue about him being better now then, I just think he was way ahead of his time then, his speed would not gain any signifant gain, conditioning would be better, he would not have troubles with the concussions like some said, would last longer prolly also. Another fact is that he did not win the Cup since leaving Edmonton, came in close once though. 200 pts would not see a daylight in this league, 140-150 possibly. But still nothing to take away from him, one of the greatest ever, possibly the best.

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This scenario has to have some sort of consequences. Like if you make a deal with the devil, yes, you get to have your fantasy situation, but ultimately you have to pay for it.

What if we add a new plot twist to this free-range fantasy? Like, alongside Gretzky you have to take one of the worst players in the history of your team - like you're nightmare player and you have to deal with him as your number one player in that position. So for instance the Bruins trade:

Seguin, Lucic, (one other player of their choice) and two firsts

for

Gretzky and Jason York

and Jason York has to be my number one defenseman for as long as I have Gretzky. Ouch.

Not as orgasmic fantasy wise, but maybe an interesting way to view how truly "uplifting" Gretzky's skills would be.

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fair?

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Remember, Gretzky put up 87 points in his last year as a player right in the dead puck trap era at age 37. I want to see Crosby do that at 37. I would put a million dollars Crosby will never reach 70 points after 35.
if he even makes it to 37 with that head made of glass.

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Nothing. I wouldn't want Gretzky on my team. Easily most annoying player.

BTW- I got Semenko/McSorley too ? BC, "The Great One" would be scared to death to play without them.
Your loss for not wanting the best player to put on skates

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Preferrably, we keep Toews. That is all.

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