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04-14-2012, 12:07 PM
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WAS and TOR

Here is one to debate.

Wash

11th & 16th overall

Tor

5th overall

Would Washington have to add for the move up the board or are those 2 firsts worth the move up? Would Toronto want more coming back for the 5th overall?

Would a change of cap guys say a Brouwer for Lombardi be too much for Wash. Toronto would get a more physical player and save a few dollars on the cap.

What could be the basis of a deal around the 3 picks.

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The picks after 14th overall have not been set.

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I cannot see the Leafs wanting to move down.

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So why would Toronto move down from
5th overall without getting a good young center back again??

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Here is one to debate.

Wash

11th & 16th overall

Tor

5th overall

Would Washington have to add for the move up the board or are those 2 firsts worth the move up? Would Toronto want more coming back for the 5th overall?

Would a change of cap guys say a Brouwer for Lombardi be too much for Wash. Toronto would get a more physical player and save a few dollars on the cap.

What could be the basis of a deal around the 3 picks.
Lombardi + 5th overall

for

Brouwer + 11th + 16th i would do

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04-14-2012, 12:10 PM
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Nope, Leafs need high-end talent, not depth.

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no........ we are drafting high end talent

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Schenn for 11 + 15 (or whatever it ends up being).

Trade 11 to Vancouver for Schneider.

Draft 5 and 15 (or whatever it ends up being).

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Schenn for 11 + 15 (or whatever it ends up being).

Trade 11 to Vancouver for Schneider.

Draft 5 and 15 (or whatever it ends up being).
why would the Caps want Schenn for?

why would the Nucks trade Schneider for the 11th?

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why would the Caps want Schenn for?

why would the Nucks trade Schneider for the 11th?
Because that is my perceived value.

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why would the Caps want Schenn for?

why would the Nucks trade Schneider for the 11th?
I actually would not be surprised to see Schneider go for a mid first round pick. The Caps might have to add a prospect, but this doesn't seem too unreasonable to me.

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Because that is my perceived value.
alright

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Leafs need a franchise C. Forsberg, Galchenyuk and Girgorenko can all fill that need (maybe Forsberg to a lesser extent if he stays a LW in the NHL), at least 1 of 3 of whom will be potentially available at #5. In other words, the only player available on the Caps that would make the Leafs consider dealing it would be Backstrom, but obviously that won't happen.

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Leafs high end guaranteed talent: Kessel

Leafs high end blue chip prospects: Kadri + Gardiner

The Leafs have LOTS of players that could turn out to be steals and become a good 2nd, 3rd liner like McKegg, Frattin, Olden, Ross etc. Another high end talent is what the Leafs need not the 11th and 16th overall most of which never become more than serviceable players, if that.

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Nope, if u want 2012 5th overall then its Carlson + Alzner or Carlson/Alzner + 11th overall.

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Because that is my perceived value.
Well looks like you need to get the homer glasses off

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Nope, if u want 2012 5th overall then its Carlson + Alzner or Carlson/Alzner + 11th overall.
Carlson or Alzner alone are worth more than 5th overall

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Well looks like you need to get the homer glasses off



Carlson or Alzner alone are worth more than 5th overall
No the 5th overall could be Murray, Dumba, Yakupov, Grigs, Galchenyuk, Forsberg who will all be better than Carlson and Alzner.

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Well looks like you need to get the homer glasses off



Carlson or Alzner alone are worth more than 5th overall

So Alzner is worth more than the 5th overall, but it's homer glasses to say Schenn for the 11th +15th+ in a draft heavey in the top 5 or 6.

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Alzner

Schenn

5th overall

11th and 15th+

To me all hold similar value.

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Alzner

Schenn

5th overall

11th and 15th+

To me all hold similar value.
Alzner is definitely worth more than Schenn as of now, and I don't think Schenn would net you the 5th pick right now. Most importantly, since the difference between 11th and 15th is relatively small, Schenn isn't worth (almost) twice as much as Schneider, as an earlier post suggested, to say the very least.

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Nope, if u want 2012 5th overall then its Carlson + Alzner or Carlson/Alzner + 11th overall.
Lol. Keep dreaming.

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Nope, if u want 2012 5th overall then its Carlson + Alzner or Carlson/Alzner + 11th overall.
That's just an absolute absurd asking price.

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Schenn for 11 + 15 (or whatever it ends up being).

Trade 11 to Vancouver for Schneider.

Draft 5 and 15 (or whatever it ends up being).
LOL. Schenn won't fetch 2 mid first rounders. Schneider will fetch 2 first rounders, or a first or 2nd and a top level prospect. Simply look at the Varlamov trade (who fetched a 1st and 2nd). Schneider will likely get a bit more.

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Thats the same poster who thinks Yakupov can be had for scraps yet 5th overall can only be obtained when two top 4 D are coming back. lmao what a joke.

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