Kings lost Kopitar last season, so I can def sympathize with Van fans. This isn't about hockey anymore, this is about D.Sedins health, he needs to shut it down and get himself better otherwise who knows what could happen.
Anyway the only point i want to make is i felt the play was uncalled for, and thats the only thing i dont like about it that bothers me, daniel at this moment has no timeline to return to hockey.
I in no way think daniel means we would beat the kings, we may very well loose with him just as easily in the line up.
The only concern i have is for daniels health, on team 1040 they said daniel does not even look himself right now.
You seem rational and reasonable, I like that and agree with this post 100%.
Sucks that there are so many bad apples ruining it for your fan base.
Anyway the only point i want to make is i felt the play was uncalled for, and thats the only thing i dont like about it that bothers me, daniel at this moment has no timeline to return to hockey.
I in no way think daniel means we would beat the kings, we may very well loose with him just as easily in the line up.
The only concern i have is for daniels health, on team 1040 they said daniel does not even look himself right now.
I agree with this. I didn't like what Daniel did to Keith but nothing about it justified Keith's retaliation.
Personally, I think the length of the suspension was fine...but I think it's really unfortunate that Daniel was so seriously injured and is still out. I hope he gets better soon.
Name a play that Burrows or Lapierre has done that was as dirty as Keith's elbow? I don't recall either of them ever running Toews or Kane and trying to end their season.
You seem rational and reasonable, I like that and agree with this post 100%.
Sucks that there are so many bad apples ruining it for your fan base.
I argue with them all the time, and I completely understand other fans frustration with us, I argue with our fans on canucks.com all the time for being overly arrogant, and insulting to other teams.
Most of canuck fans on here i think are reasonable, I would be lying if i said were all perfect on hfboards, but alot of us dislike our fans on canucks.com and give us a bad reputation.
I argue with my own fans more then other teams. I just wish people wouldnt assume every canucks fan is arrogant.
Elliotte Friedman HNIC - Daniel is not travelling with the team and will not play Sunday in LA but he has not been ruled out of Game 4 on Wednesday - Game 5 is back in Vancouver 8 days from now (a week this Sunday).
Well the nhl loses yet another star player for an extended time. Whether you like or dislike the canucks I think as fans of the NHL we can all agree that the playoffs and season in general are better when the star players such as Daniel are on the ice. Having them concussed and sitting on the sidelines sucks and it seems like a lot of the concussions are avoidable. We as fans should direct our negative energy not at each other over why so and so player is a wuss for not being able to take a 'hockey' hit or why so and so should be suspended for life for a dirty hit, but instead at the NHL to find a reasonable solution to help eliminate some of these hits and concussions.
Sorry to hear about Sedin. Meanwhile Keith plays on. I would sure like to see a rule whereby in a case of a blatant attempt to injure, the assailant doesn't get to play until the injured player returns. Fat chance, though, with this league.
The NHLPA would be just as against that as the league.
Mike Gillis needs to be criticized for his stupidity. He is the one that told the media that Daniel will be ready to go come round 1, thus setting up Canuck fans for this disappoinment. He should have been like Ray Shero and just shut his mouth. Daniel's health should have been the #1 priority, even if it meant he missed the playoffs. Heck Crosby missed most of the last regular season and the playoffs. Toews and Backstrom missed huge portions of this season due to concussions....for Gillis to lead on Canuck fans was just idiotic.
Sorry to hear about Sedin. Meanwhile Keith plays on. I would sure like to see a rule whereby in a case of a blatant attempt to injure, the assailant doesn't get to play until the injured player returns. Fat chance, though, with this league.
Seems unlikely when the NHL did not have the cojones to ban Bertuzzi in spite of his criminal assault on Steve Moore.
If Keith our any other "tough"player had rubbed out Sedin in the corner the way hedid to Keith, absolutely no one would be calling it a "run" or "dirty hit". They'd be calling it "physical hockey" and talking about Sedin needs to be able to take big body contract in the corner and so on. It's only because Sedin rocking Keith with a legal hit doesn't fit the preconceived notions of certain people that it's been laughably described as a cheap shot.
The thing that annoys me is not the fact that Keith hit Daniel in the head. it's the fact that Keith was out there on the ice, thinking about Daniels earlier hit on him, and consciously made the decision to target the head.
To me, there is a MAJOR difference between a careless hit, and somebody who attempts to injure somebody, and does.
As the team 1040 (a Vancouver radio station) said, Daniel doesn't even seem like himself these days, and it was the result of a conscious decision to injure by Duncan Keith.
If Keith our any other "tough"player had rubbed out Sedin in the corner the way hedid to Keith, absolutely no one would be calling it a "run" or "dirty hit". They'd be calling it "physical hockey" and talking about Sedin needs to be able to take big body contract in the corner and so on. It's only because Sedin rocking Keith with a legal hit doesn't fit the preconceived notions of certain people that it's been laughably described as a cheap shot.
That's just the tip of the hypocrisy iceberg
I would love to see a Hawk fan answer this honestly --
If Kane had put the exact same hit on Lapierre in the corner and then Lapierre had flown into Kane at center ice with the massive raised elbow straight to the head, would you have been fine with 5 games? Or would that have been excessive given the hit Kane delivered?
Would love to see just one honest answer to that.
Keith should be sitting this entire series and everyone with a shred of common sense knows it.
First off...I hope sedin feels better soon. Guys a great hockey player and it sucks having an injury that can't be controlled or easily fixed.
Next, it sucks d sedin isn't playing because now all we're going to hear from nux fans is how if sedin was healthy they would have been a different team. It just cheapens our success so far and will cheapen our series victory if we do eliminate them.
Only the most irrational Canucks fans will believe they lost because of an absentee Sedin. Everyone else who watches this series, rational Canucks fans included, knows the tuth.
I would love to see a Hawk fan answer this honestly --
If Kane had put the exact same hit on Lapierre in the corner and then Lapierre had flown into Kane at center ice with the massive raised elbow straight to the head, would you have been fine with 5 games? Or would that have been excessive given the hit Kane delivered?
Would love to see just one honest answer to that.
Keith should be sitting this entire series and everyone with a shred of common sense knows it.
It is the way it is in the NHL and all the players know this. This is not one situation, this is the way it always is.
All fans know what happened and it is what it is. The fact that some fans feel the need to repeatedly tell other how awful "they" have it is part of why they are so unpopular.
The thing that annoys me is not the fact that Keith hit Daniel in the head. it's the fact that Keith was out there on the ice, thinking about Daniels earlier hit on him, and consciously made the decision to target the head.
To me, there is a MAJOR difference between a careless hit, and somebody who attempts to injure somebody, and does.
As the team 1040 (a Vancouver radio station) said, Daniel doesn't even seem like himself these days, and it was the result of a conscious decision to injure by Duncan Keith.
It was everything the league claims to be targeting -- retaliatory, premeditated, viscous targeting the head that had nothing to do with a hockey play.
If a 4th liner had done it, 15-20 games easy.
It does not carry the same consequences as a deliberate flying elbow to the head at full speed.
If you read the post before that, he was talking about Keith being the biggest ****** in hockey. I'm not condoning the hit. I just think that is less than manly to pull hair and bite people. Again not saying the elbow wasn't a dirty hit. It's just hard for me to accept Keith being worse than guys like Matt Cooke. I think thats ridiculous.
