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04-14-2012, 02:57 PM
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What else is he gonna say?
If there was any doubt in his mind, he would have hinted at it and not have been so blunt about his answer.

As Superstar said, what other source would you rather then the man himself?

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At 5 we're guaranteed one of the top guys so I'm fine either way, but I certainly wouldn't complain if we added a reasonable sweetener to the 5th pick to get Yakupov. Burke needs to do something big this offseason and making a move like that would be a good start.
That 1st pick might be just too sexy for Tambellini to trade away -- how else is he going to keep that grin on his face if he trades it away?

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I'm sorry but to move up 4 spots thats too much. These writers really need to stop trying to put their agenda out there with these non sense editorials on what they think the Leafs need to do. Terrible idea. Just stay where we are and take the BPA I'm not willing to give up our first with Ashton AND Franson AND by the way here's a second round pick...just to take Yakupov when we have a chance at Galchenyuk who actually fits a need..just laughable B.S
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That 1st pick might be just too sexy for Tambellini to trade away -- how else is he going to keep that grin on his face if he trades it away?
Yeah, I couldn't see it going over well in Edmonton if they trade Yakupov away.

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1st + Ashton + Franson + 2nd?

done
way too much!!!

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If there was any doubt in his mind, he would have hinted at it and not have been so blunt about his answer.

As Superstar said, what other source would you rather then the man himself?
Are you suggesting that everything every GM says is the absolute truth??? If he didn't want to draft a russian, it would be ideal for him to say he has no problem drafting a russian, in order to keep the value of his pick as high as possible. If other GMs know that he doesn't want anything to do with a russian, they gain leverage. Simple as that.

It is ignorant to suggest whatever he says is the truth. Jeff Carter, according to Holmgren, wasn't being traded just a couple weeks before he was dealt.

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04-14-2012, 03:37 PM
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way too much!!!
As crazy as it sounds we may have to add a bit more.

Here's my proposal


To

5th overall(Murray or Dumba)
Schenn
Ashton or Frattin
'13 2nd round pick


To

1st overall(Yakupov)
Defensive prospect(Gernat or Musil)

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04-14-2012, 04:09 PM
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About as likely as this!

Edmonton giving us five first rounders for Schenn.The most I would give for first pick is ours 2012,Franson and a second rounder from 2013.That is it!Burke will need all his assets just to land a number one center.Can't happen,you must be an Oiler fan eh?Nice try...

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04-14-2012, 04:15 PM
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Stay at 5, let the oil have all these 1st overalls. Once they get married they are gone lol, then we pick them up as fa in their prime. Russians are too soft anyway now days, dont want!

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04-14-2012, 04:23 PM
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1st + Ashton + Franson + 2nd?

done
No kidding. Holy crap. Where is the phone? LOL

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way too much!!!
Yeah, you're right. A deal like that should get the Leafs Crosby and Malkin.

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Spend the assets on a #1 C if you're going to spend assets.

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Spend the assets on a #1 C if you're going to spend assets.
I agree with the sentiment, but what number one centres are going to be available?

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There might not be a whole lot of difference separating the first from the fifth overall selection in this year’s draft

Then why the hell should we expend valuable assets to move up? No thanks.

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04-14-2012, 04:45 PM
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Media outlets not so different than you and I.

Make retarded and unrealistic proposals.

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1st + Ashton + Franson + 2nd?

done
I wish. Lol at the people saying this is too much lets look at how this deal would have looked if we use past drafts.

2011 RNH for Strome + Ashton + Franson + 2nd, done!!
2010 Hall for Nino + Ashton + Franson + 2nd, done!!
2009 Tavares for B.Schenn + Ashton + Franson + 2nd, done!!
2008 Stamkos for L.Schenn + Ashton + Franson + 2nd, done!!
2007 P.Kane for Alzner + Ashton + Franson + 2nd, done!!

You get my point.

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I just can't see a reason for the Leafs to move up for Yakupov with Kessel being on this team. The assets are better spent for a position of need instead. I would rather just pick at 5. I would support any move however that has us move up to pick Griegorenko, especially if the scouts think he is close to NHL ready.

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I'd rather move up to the number 2 spot and pick Gally. It will be cheaper and easier.
Or just stay at 5 and take him there like we will end up doing. I'd rather just keep our pick and save the Schenn/Franson bullet for a top center. (Jordan Staal please!!!!)

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I agree with the sentiment, but what number one centres are going to be available?
Ryan Getzlaf, Jordan Staal, Eric Staal?, Paul Stastny, Joe Thornton?, Vinny Lecavalier.

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Or just stay at 5 and take him there like we will end up doing. I'd rather just keep our pick and save the Schenn/Franson bullet for a top center. (Jordan Staal please!!!!)
Staal isn't a #1C.

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04-14-2012, 05:21 PM
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Ryan Getzlaf, Jordan Staal, Eric Staal?, Paul Stastny, Joe Thornton?, Vinny Lecavalier.
When did the GMs of those teams say those players were available?

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1st + Ashton + Franson + 2nd?

done
Except, of course, it's not remotely enough to make Edmonton even think of biting. Aim for the 2nd pick or stay at 5th and use remaining assets for other deals.

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Nail has had 2 concussions in a league thats far slower and far smaller than the NHL does this not concern anyone???

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I guess the writer was just using Nail as a representation of a big move that Burke has to make. He doesn't necessarily have to go out and get Nail, but a big move has to be made.

This year was different for Leafs fans. The letdown was a lot worse than usual, and the anger and frustration of Leaf fans is at an all time high. Every single thing Burke does or says is met with criticism, so he needs to do something big in order to give the fans something to look forward to. If we go into next season with basically the same roster, why is there any reason for optimism?

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Staal isn't a #1C.
Like it or not, he would be in Toronto. He's also had to play #1 centre when Malkin and Crosby were out. He played well, and given the opportunity should succeed in that role.

Not my #1 choice, but J. Staal and a legit #1 goalie and this is a bonafide playoff team.

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