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04-22-2012, 07:18 PM
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This run's impact on FA's...

I know this is obviously premature because we haven't accomplished anything yet, but does anybody think that the playoffs so far makes our team a more attractive FA destination or could potentially?

We have a good core already in place, and all we really need is some more defenseman. So are we considered more "legit" than before? Do you think we have increased out chances to land someone like Suter, Smid, Enstrom, Edler, Babchuk, etc?

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I think we've definitely improved our appeal to free agents. FAs want to go to teams that win and compete; our roster's shown that and by all accounts the coaching staff's got a good rep with the players.

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Dustin Penner will be the biggest name we sign.

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I don't think there was really any concern attracting players to Ottawa, it's just that Murray already had plans with a youth movement and the Bingo Boys in the pipe. I'm not really sure Ottawa is in the market for anything other than a defenceman in the offseason (hence why I believe Lee's contract was dumped for someone who will obviously be an UFA at the end).

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I don't really think we need one

Our roster is looking pretty nice to me, especially if we have Silfverberg, Zibanejad, Borowiecki, and maybe even Stone next year

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Dustin Penner will be the biggest name we sign.
Biggest or fattest?

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Dustin Penner will be the biggest name we sign.
I'm okay with this.

And yes, OP. This little run is showing the rest of the league that we're ready to compete and our coaches are real "players coaches", that's always a plus when you're looking for somewhere to play. You'd much rather play for Maclean than lets say, John Tortorella or Ron Wilson who will throw you under the bus at their convenience.

Also, more playoff games = more $$$ for Mr. Melnyk. If we get to round 2, there will be even more season ticket sales next season too. We didn't spend much this year and are still competitive so I'd guess that the Eug won't hesitate to cut a few checks this offseason knowing that the team is likely bound for the playoffs again next year.

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I don't really think we need one

Our roster is looking pretty nice to me, especially if we have Silfverberg, Zibanejad, Borowiecki, and maybe even Stone next year
Good teams are built on more than just good drafting. There's no certainty that those guys pan out the way we need, and there's also the fact that we'd still need to fill key positions even if they do work out. ie. top 4 d-men.

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Good teams are built on more than just good drafting. There's no certainty that those guys pan out the way we need, and there's also the fact that we'd still need to fill key positions even if they do work out. ie. top 4 d-men.
No, but you have to give the guys you developed a chance (look how it worked for Detroit, while signing FAs worked for Toronto). Also, we have Karlsson, Cowen, and Gonchar for top 4, and even if Kuba doesn't resign Phillips is looking like he can still play that role

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No, but you have to give the guys you developed a chance (look how it worked for Detroit, while signing FAs worked for Toronto). Also, we have Karlsson, Cowen, and Gonchar for top 4, and even if Kuba doesn't resign Phillips is looking like he can still play that role
Even Detroit signed guys like Stuart, Bertuzzi, Eaves, and White. It can be a good way to plug holes quickly. You generally can't get key franchise type players but some good depth. We should be active in getting a top 4 D.

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I don't think Suter would come here regardless of our situation, but man would he be a guy I'd love to get. If there's a defensive D man out there that's willing to come here, that would be perfect and having a successful team with a promising future would definitely be a drawing card.

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Even Detroit signed guys like Stuart, Bertuzzi, Eaves, and White. It can be a good way to plug holes quickly. You generally can't get key franchise type players but some good depth. We should be active in getting a top 4 D.
We are just going into year two though, we should be given the guys we developed a chance first.

In a few years I would hope to see something like this

Silfverberg-Spezza-Stone
Noesen-Zibanejad-Puempel
Foligno-Turris-Michalek
Greening-Smith-Neil

Karlsson-Cowen
Borowiecki-Wiercioch
Gryba-Phillips

Even though some of those guys might not develop, we have no way of knowing who, so it seems silly to sign a ufa when we might not even need that guy in a few years. For now, guys like JOB and Condra are doing good enough in their roles

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I don't think Suter would come here regardless of our situation, but man would he be a guy I'd love to get. If there's a defensive D man out there that's willing to come here, that would be perfect and having a successful team with a promising future would definitely be a drawing card.
Jason Garrison would be a great pick up. I've been really impressed with his game in the playoffs and he gets #1 PP time on a team that features Kulikov, Campbell, Jovonoski and Gudbranson. He's real good in his own end too. Blocks shots and can dish out solid hits.

I think he's going to get a ridiculous contract from a desperate team but I'm a little more convinced he'll have success elsewhere and not be the next Jeff Finger.

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Even Detroit signed guys like Stuart, Bertuzzi, Eaves, and White. It can be a good way to plug holes quickly. You generally can't get key franchise type players but some good depth. We should be active in getting a top 4 D.
Exactly. We'll use FA to add a bit of NHL-ready depth as we come closer to being Cup contenders.

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Jason Garrison would be a great pick up. I've been really impressed with his game in the playoffs and he gets #1 PP time on a team that features Kulikov, Campbell, Jovonoski and Gudbranson. He's real good in his own end too. Blocks shots and can dish out solid hits.

I think he's going to get a ridiculous contract from a desperate team but I'm a little more convinced he'll have success elsewhere and not be the next Jeff Finger.
Oh, I wouldn't mind adding a guy like that, put it seems pointless to me to add a guy like Parise or Suter

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I think the Suter and Parise sweepstakes are over if Lidstrom retires for Detroit.

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We are just going into year two though, we should be given the guys we developed a chance first.

In a few years I would hope to see something like this

Silfverberg-Spezza-Stone
Noesen-Zibanejad-Puempel
Foligno-Turris-Michalek
Greening-Smith-Neil

Karlsson-Cowen
Borowiecki-Wiercioch
Gryba-Phillips

Even though some of those guys might not develop, we have no way of knowing who, so it seems silly to sign a ufa when we might not even need that guy in a few years. For now, guys like JOB and Condra are doing good enough in their roles
This is really optimistic...

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Karlsson-Cowen
Borowiecki-Wiercioch
Gryba-Phillips
I think this would be an absolutely terrible defense tbh. I don't see Boro being a top 4 D anytime soon. I really like Wiercioch but I don't think we should be putting all our eggs in his basket so to speak. Gryba is maybe a 7th or 8th D down the road and Phillips is a wild card.

Kuba would be a massive blow and Gonchar will also be difficult to replace once he retires. They need to address this with our 1st round pick and a UFA signing imo.

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Yea Suter is a pipe dream, but one of the second tier players would be very realistic. I think someone like Smid would be awesome. He is basically like a more veteran Cowen. A tough shot blocking warrior with underrated offense. Our top four would look much better defensively.

Or possibly an even better option would be Enstrom. I don't know his situation with Winnipeg, but that would make a very balanced top four with Karlsson / Cowen, and Phillips / Enstrom. It would also cut down Gonchars ice time and make him more of a specialist.

Point is, we have the money to improve that we won't have for very long, so why not use it? We don't have any NHL ready top four d prospects (Boro is arguable, but I think he's a third pairing dman) so lets get one without losing anything

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This is really optimistic...
Yes, but which of our prospects are going to pan out?

There is no point signing Zach Parise if we don't need any left wings in a few years.

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I think this would be an absolutely terrible defense tbh. I don't see Boro being a top 4 D anytime soon. I really like Wiercioch but I don't think we should be putting all our eggs in his basket so to speak. Gryba is maybe a 7th or 8th D down the road and Phillips is a wild card.

Kuba would be a massive blow and Gonchar will also be difficult to replace once he retires. They need to address this with our 1st round pick and a UFA signing imo.
Yeah, if we did sign someone I would rather it be a defenceman

I'm just saying, no top 6 forwards/ top 2 defencemen

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Yes, but which of our prospects are going to pan out?

There is no point signing Zach Parise if we don't need any left wings in a few years.
The odds of anybody reaching Parise's level are pretty damned low. Even if we sign someone, some of our prospects just become the Sedins playing behind the West Coast Express. It's really not a bad thing to add depth now even when there's young guys knocking on the door (see Bishop).


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Yeah, if we did sign someone I would rather it be a defenceman

I'm just saying, no top 6 forwards/ top 2 defencemen
Well, I don't want to pay Suter or Parise 10M per or anything but if on July 1st, their agent calls up Murray and says "Hey, Zack Parise is really interested in playing with Jason Spezza" or "Ryan Suter has always wanted to play with a guy like Karlsson" then we jump at that. Those are franchise players we can have for nothing but cap space and we have a stupid amount of that.

Its more than just a pipe dream but I wouldn't ever rule it out. BMurrs gotta be aggressive in the D market though or at the very least get Kuba locked up for a couple more years. We could fall back down the standings next year if its left untouched.

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Yes, but which of our prospects are going to pan out?

There is no point signing Zach Parise if we don't need any left wings in a few years.
If we have too many LW's in a couple years, that's a good thing. Just trade one for a Rundblad / Turris or a Tarasenko / Rundblad deal.

I would equate it to the draft. You don't draft on need. Yes, FA's are a little different, but it's sort of the same principle. If Parise wanted to come here, I would bet my house Greening / Foligno / Puempel / Noesen / whatever wing prospect you want to put here would not sway Bryan to not sign him

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We will sign a big name free-agent or make a move for a star young player. I've said this multiple times.

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