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04-15-2012, 02:09 PM
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Oh the grit myth again. They lost because they couldnt score except on themselves. They outplayed the Blues minus 15 minutes of the 2nd. Im more concerned about the missed shots and sloppy play. Physically they have been fine, the effort and passion is there now the execution needs to come.
Really? I don't think they outplayed the Blues to such an extent. They never really tested Halak/Elliot in the first two periods outside of that sequence where Pavelski hit the post. Maybe the two-on-one preceding Halak's injury, but that was an awful play by the forwards....

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Really? I don't think they outplayed the Blues to such an extent. They never really tested Halak/Elliot in the first two periods outside of that sequence where Pavelski hit the post. Maybe the two-on-one preceding Halak's injury, but that was an awful play by the forwards....
I think they controlled the play better. They outchanced them and outshot. Once the blues had a 2-0 lead they just packed it in.

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neither side is going to convince the other side they are right, why even bother?
Basically this. Blues fans need to get of their high horse. Sharks fans too. Both sides were dirty, but we're more upset because we lost. If we'd won, you bet it'd be the opposite. I'll agree that Burns' elbow was dirty, but it was honestly an accident. Burns is not a dirty player, and I wouldn't be surprised if the elbow surprised him. Braun was a ****ing idiot to challenge Polak, although at a closer look it really didn't seem like many of the punches actually hit him anywhere but the shoulder or chest. McDonald really turned dirty after he was hit by Galiardi, but the slewfoot wasn't terrible.

The only bit in that game that pissed me off was that suckerpunch. Blues fans are all praising Sobotka because he was "classy" and "stopped". No, he stopped after he realized that he broke Moore's nose. Sobotka is a total pissant and a dirty player. I remember he hit Couture's head blatantly in the last regular season game.

Anyway, Thornton or Clowe and Backe should just go next game and then have that be the end of it.

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Oh the grit myth again. They lost because they couldnt score except on themselves. They outplayed the Blues minus 15 minutes of the 2nd. Im more concerned about the missed shots and sloppy play. Physically they have been fine, the effort and passion is there now the execution needs to come.
100% agree. Besides the 2nd period, the Sharks really outplayed the Blues. They outshot the Blues something like 10-4 at even strength in the 1st and looked really good. They were doing well in the 2nd until Halak was hurt, and then the Blues dominated the 2nd from then on out. The Sharks controlled play by a large margin in the 3rd; they outshot the Blues 9-3 until that last penalty at the very end of the game.

And the goals were mostly non-repeatable. An own goal, a spectacular effort by Oshie, and a 5-on-3 at the very end when nobody was trying too hard.

We have enough grit. Thornton, Clowe, etc. What we need is execution.

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I think they controlled the play better. They outchanced them and outshot. Once the blues had a 2-0 lead they just packed it in.
I don't think the Sharks controlled play out side of periods of the first period. That being said, if you look at scoring chances w/o PPs the Sharks and Blues were even. When you're the road team and you have the same number of chances as the higher seed playing in their rink I think it says a lot about how well the Sharks played. We played them even on the road, which should translate to victories at home because now we dictate match-ups.

The top line, when out there against either of the Blues bottom 6 lines statistically dominated possession.

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Fan in the stands video of the last minutes. At 1:35 is where Sobotka and Moore get paired up and then Sobotka punches Moore.

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So I ran my simulator for games 3 and 4.

SJ loses game 3 2-1 in OT. Niemi with 49 saves in the losing effort. Halak (may be Elliot now) with only 21 saves.

Game 4 SJ wins 5-3. Blues go 3/5 on the PP, but the Sharks get two shorthanded goals courtsey of Marleau and Burns.
How many goals did MacIntyre get?

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That is a great video. Really shows what a tool Sobotka is. The guys are holding each other, talking about each others' mothers, then Sobotka sucker-punches, then drill him on the ice. Totally weak and classless.
He's got an a$$-whipping coming Monday, for sure. Better keep your head up, tool and be ready to defend yourself.

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I wonder if Murray was prohibited to fight. There is no reason why he isn't fighting when everyone on the team is getting their butts kicked. I hope Clowe doesn't fight and re-aggravate whatever injury he has.

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I wonder if Murray was prohibited to fight. There is no reason why he isn't fighting when everyone on the team is getting their butts kicked. I hope Clowe doesn't fight and re-aggravate whatever injury he has.
Murray was paired up with Jackman during that frakus and they did try to throw punches but they pretty much had each other tied up.

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I wonder if Murray was prohibited to fight. There is no reason why he isn't fighting when everyone on the team is getting their butts kicked. I hope Clowe doesn't fight and re-aggravate whatever injury he has.
murray looks broken. it's painful just watching him.

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I wonder if Murray was prohibited to fight. There is no reason why he isn't fighting when everyone on the team is getting their butts kicked. I hope Clowe doesn't fight and re-aggravate whatever injury he has.
I continually wonder this. You figure that he could easily catch one around the throat in a fight so that is probably a no-no for him.

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So I guess the Blues just give everyone press passes? What the hell kind of reporter is that?

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So I guess the Blues just give everyone press passes? What the hell kind of reporter is that?
Hfboards reporter, that's what it sounds like.

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The main thing I don't get is the fallout of the Galiardi hit on McDonald.

The refs thought TJ crossed the line with the hit and called a penalty... fine. But it was considered perfectly acceptable after the play for three guys to jump TJ and start punching him. That's outrageous. There is no way to rationalize that turn of events. In my opinion the refs totally lost control of the game after intentionally making that decision. One of these days the NHL will have to make a decision in regards to whether or not hockey is a professional sport because a professional sport doesn't tolerate that sort of crap. The side show really has to end at some point.

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Not worried about this series. Jumbo should've had 3 assists at least in the game. Pavs and our gutless wonder () will finish if the chances keep coming. Also, couture has shown flashes of super-stardom by the way he moves with the puck along the boards. Looks like he has the puck on a string.

I wouldn't be surprised if Demers is benched for game 3. He needs to play within himself. But with last change in these next two games, they might keep him in and protect him from the Backes, Berglund lines. Got my tix to game 4, Sharks need to protect home ice!

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Demers was fine. I don't blame him for the Backes goal. Oshie out-deked Demers, Marleau, and Pavelski. Shall we bench the lot of them?

I actually thought Braun and Demers are a pretty good pair.

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Demers was fine. I don't blame him for the Backes goal. Oshie out-deked Demers, Marleau, and Pavelski. Shall we bench the lot of them?

I actually thought Braun and Demers are a pretty good pair.
I thought they were pretty good too, but they could've been better. White played some good games down the stretch, and I would feel more comfortable with him facing a streaking Oshie down the ice, rather than Demers. Demers obviously has more puck moving ability, and White hasn't been consistent. But I would at least consider the adjustment.

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I thought they were pretty good too, but they could've been better. White played some good games down the stretch, and I would feel more comfortable with him facing a streaking Oshie down the ice, rather than Demers. Demers obviously has more puck moving ability, and White hasn't been consistent. But I would at least consider the adjustment.
Are you serious? White would look even worse against Oshie because he is immobile.

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Are you serious? White would look even worse against Oshie because he is immobile.
On that play White would have just pinned him to boards. For all **** White gets by us amateurs he's usually in the right position. Demers made a bad read and paid for it. I think that's what he was getting at.

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On that play White would have just pinned him to boards. For all **** White gets by us amateurs he's usually in the right position. Demers made a bad read and paid for it. I think that's what he was getting at.
Usually is true. But that was a fantastic effort by Oshie. I don't think anyone would have been able to stop it minus maybe Pickles.

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Usually is true. But that was a fantastic effort by Oshie. I don't think anyone would have been able to stop it minus maybe Pickles.
Good effort indeed. Pavs stays up I think he has a shot and breaking it up but it doesn't matter now.

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On that play White would have just pinned him to boards. For all **** White gets by us amateurs he's usually in the right position. Demers made a bad read and paid for it. I think that's what he was getting at.
Demers was able to make that read because Marleau was there to support him. Marleau then missed his check and Oshie had a clear lane to the net. Then Pavelski fell on the ice in an attempt to stop the cross crease. Demers would be the last person I would blame there.

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Good effort indeed. Pavs stays up I think he has a shot and breaking it up but it doesn't matter now.
Yeah. I blame Marleau for missing the hit and Pavelski for going down too early before I blame Demers.

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Demers was able to make that read because Marleau was there to support him. Marleau then missed his check and Oshie had a clear lane to the net. Then Pavelski fell on the ice in an attempt to stop the cross crease. Demers would be the last person I would blame there.
So what you're saying is that everyone sucked on the play?

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