Yeah, looks like it'll all depend on if Smith can play or not. With that in mind, think it's save to assume that if Shaw gets suspended, it'll be a one-gamer (which I still think is far too much).
That being said, if Smith is out tomorrow and Shaw's subsequently suspended for a game, that's a damn good trade for Chicago (NOT MAKING LIGHT OF A POTENTIAL SMITH INJURY).
So even though Tippet and Smith both said he's fine the NHL is waiting to see if he's going to play?
lol nhl
It's the playoffs, a team isn't going to comment on injuries either way. They aren't going to let the other team ahead of time know that "oh our #1 goalie is out"
All I know is that if this happens, it'd just be a perfect example how inept the league is with this sort of thing.
Inept? I'd say the league is playing this one just about as perfectly as it can when it owns the team.
Edit: Sorry waffle, almost forgot my source:
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The NHL has owned the Coyotes since 2009, when team owner Jerry Moyes, who had purchased the team in 2005 and incurred massive financial losses, turned it over to the league after declaring bankruptcy the previous year.
Straight up NHL waiting to see on Smith as long as they can. Three things could happen I think.
1.) Smith skates in the morning skate/ said to be playng game 3= No suspension.
2.) Smith does not skate/said to be out= Suspension
3.) Smith does not practice/ said to be hurt= Suspension- then Smith magically good to go after suspension.
If the third option happens I will just laugh at the NHL and tip my hat to the Yotes for making the NHL look like fools.
I predict number 3.
Apparently injury is not only a factor in the decision, but it's now the ONLY factor. We all complained about Campbell but Shanahan is way worse. He's almost acting like he wants to get fired now.
It's the playoffs, a team isn't going to comment on injuries either way. They aren't going to let the other team ahead of time know that "oh our #1 goalie is out"
So we'll find out if Shaw has his suspension 10 seconds before the game starts tomorrow?
Inept? I'd say the league is playing this one just about as perfectly as it can when it owns the team.
Or instead of judging entirely on an injury, they could judge the act itself. How is this the perfect way to handle the situation?
There's no way you can make the argument that a player going for the puck who bumped the goalie slightly while trying to get out of the way and slow up should be suspended. Or maybe you can. The league does own the team after all.
Inept? I'd say the league is playing this one just about as perfectly as it can when it owns the team.
I'd say that being suckered in to believing that the injury was more severe then it really was twice is a pretty good example of their incompetence on the subject. Shaw was given a game misconduct largely because the officials seemed to believe that Smith was going to be taken out of the game for at least a little while, and then if #3 happens it means they got fooled in to believing that Smith wasn't going to play and that merited a suspension for Shaw as a result.
In other words, the Yotes would've played their own owners like a fiddle twice on the same play.
Wow did my post really need the in it? Thought it was pretty obvious where I stood
Just to spell it out for ya- Shaw should have gotten 2 minute goalie interference at most IMO, but I think even that is a stretch. It's ludicrous that the NHL is waiting to see Smith's status before making a judgement on Shaw. My post was really a testament to the leagues blatant conflict of interest in the matter.
I still don't understand why the league/Shanahan thinks the injury should have any bearing on the punishment. How should they be taken seriously at all after they do this time and time again? A bad hit is a bad hit is a bad hit. The same dirty hit should be penalized the same amount, whether the recipient is hurt or not.
This just tells the Coyotes that all they have to do is keep Smith off the ice until they make their decision regarding Shaw's punishment. After that, it's go time. Smith is in net when the puck drops tomorrow night, guaranteed.
It's the playoffs, a team isn't going to comment on injuries either way. They aren't going to let the other team ahead of time know that "oh our #1 goalie is out"
Smith said he was 100% after the game. Not good enough for Shanaban.
Or instead of judging entirely on an injury, they could judge the act itself. How is this the perfect way to handle the situation?
There's no way you can make the argument that a player going for the puck who bumped the goalie slightly while trying to get out of the way and slow up should be suspended. Or maybe you can. The league does own the team after all.
I would prefer if they judged these based on the incident itself, rather than the outcome.
That said it really didn't look like Shaw tried to slow down at all, and I still contend if he had actually tried to avoid Smith, he would have hit the glass first not Smith. So to me it didn't look like he tried to avoid Smith, at all.
To show that play and make claim of a repeat offender is ludicrous:
A) It is not a repeat offence because he was not suspended for this by the league.
B) He is clearly driving wide and after he beats the D-Man, Gardiner gives him a shove directly toward Gustavsson who exits his crease to play the puck. If you have ever had skates on in your life you would know that it is physically impossible for Shaw to turn to his right there without endangering himself. He would never get enough edge to make that turn and he would plow full speed into the boards. I don't care if you are the pope, your first instinct is always going to be self preservation. No hockey player EVER turns right there. The most defensive thing Shaw can do at that point is throw the brakes on and get as vertical as he can to minimize contact which is exactly what he does.
C) I agree that one can make a case for recklessness in the contact with Smith. I don't agree that Shaw was reckless but it is close enough to have a conversation about. Personally, I feel like Smith made himself as big as he could behind the net and tried to claim all that real estate for himself like he was hoping to get clipped so he could draw a penalty.
I would suggest you've never put on skates then, because beer league players do it every week in my league. Face it, he's a reckless player, and he should get 1 or 2 games to caution him to play a little less reckless.
You guys should really stop blasting Smith's reaction. Come tomorrow night and he doesn't play, what the hell are you morons going to say then?
It's the same mental giants who think Daniel Sedin was faking it when Duncan Keith tried to take off his head. They just aren't that bright.
Goalie's don't expect to get a blindsided headshot and so he was completely unprepared for the hit; his reaction was completely justified. Wtf was Shaw thinking anyways...
It's the same mental giants who think Daniel Sedin was faking it when Duncan Keith tried to take off his head. They just aren't that bright.
Goalie's don't expect to get a blindsided headshot and so he was completely unprepared for the hit; his reaction was completely justified. Wtf was Shaw thinking anyways...
He threw his equipment in the air and spun around faster than he got hit. You don't think that's embellishment? I also don't think you know what the word blindsided means.
He missed practice, and had a AHL goalie called up. He's obviously faking.
any chance that was because Smith got the day off and they needed a 2nd Goalie at practice.....afterall that is the norm unless Labarbera can be split into 2 humans.....
It's the same mental giants who think Daniel Sedin was faking it when Duncan Keith tried to take off his head. They just aren't that bright.
Goalie's don't expect to get a blindsided headshot and so he was completely unprepared for the hit; his reaction was completely justified. Wtf was Shaw thinking anyways...
smith was not blindsided at all.....check the video and definition of blindsided.....
I would suggest you've never put on skates then, because beer league players do it every week in my league. Face it, he's a reckless player, and he should get 1 or 2 games to caution him to play a little less reckless.
I want my hockey to be a bit reckless. That's why Playoffs are so exciting to watch. They are all putting it out on the edge. It's awesome.
Many of you can vote all you want to turn it into lawn bowling, I prefer it when players can go balls to the wall trying to win instead of worrying about dodging goalie traffic. Don't forget, a period before this all happened Smith launched himself at Toews and earned his team a PP tally.
We wouldn't need to worry so much about protecting goalies if the awkward one's would just stay in their nets. I bet most Phx fans would prefer Smith stay in his net anyway. He is a liability out there.
in it? Thought it was pretty obvious where I stood
