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Bishop, Lindback or Bernier to the Pens!!!

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04-16-2012, 12:31 PM
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Bishop, Lindback or Bernier to the Pens!!!

What can we offer up to get a solid back up to these teams to get someone to push Fleury?

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Shero won't spend more than $1m on a back-up goalie, what are all their status's, cap hits and current stats?

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Why? You really think any of those guys are gonna do anything when the D stops and stares at a Flyer going by them? Fleury doesn't need pushed. He needs actual defense....and some rebound control.

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you cant blame the D on everything, Fleury has let some horrible goals in, he has to make a big stop or two, he has been brutal in this playoffs. Every team has given up quality chances however their goalies have made some saves. If we had a capable back up goalie Fleury would not be playing right now in these playoffs

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Why? You really think any of those guys are gonna do anything when the D stops and stares at a Flyer going by them? Fleury doesn't need pushed. He needs actual defense....and some rebound control.
He had the exact same D in last years playoffs, and they played pretty good, we need to put some blame on Fleury and not just blame everything on Lovejoy, Michalek, Orpik and MArtin

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He had the exact same D in last years playoffs, and they played pretty good, we need to put some blame on Fleury and not just blame everything on Lovejoy, Michalek, Orpik and MArtin
Being fair, there's only so much a goalie can do with a ***** defence. The number of turn-overs Lovejoy, Orpik and Martin made were ridiculous.

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Why would those teams trade those goalies? That might put them in our situation without a quality backup. Not to mention those 3 goalies could be seen as potential starters for teams that don't have a franchise goalie so they could all be fairly expensive to trade for. Good trade bait for those 3 teams to have. Although I think Bishop will get his shot to be the man in Ottawa eventually.

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He had the exact same D in last years playoffs, and they played pretty good, we need to put some blame on Fleury and not just blame everything on Lovejoy, Michalek, Orpik and MArtin
Yes he let in a couple weak goals... however it's not all his fault. Or even mostly his. The TEAM in front of him has been (for the most part) god awful. Where we're at today has NOT been because of MAF, and entirely due to how piss poor the D and the rest of the team has played.

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I doubt Bishop is available. He was just traded for and then resigned.

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Would Bishop be enough to land us Z. Michalek? Although, I doubt a pitt D-man is available. What about Kennedy?

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mikko Koskinen for Scott Harrington


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Just sign Al Montoya...


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there's no way the Pens get any of them as a backup. there will be teams that are desperate for a starter and will pay for for any one of those.

Pens would be better off signing a vet backup in the offseason, drafting a goalie or 2 or trading for a goalie prospect that is a little further away.

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04-16-2012, 07:32 PM
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you cant blame the D on everything, Fleury has let some horrible goals in, he has to make a big stop or two, he has been brutal in this playoffs. Every team has given up quality chances however their goalies have made some saves. If we had a capable back up goalie Fleury would not be playing right now in these playoffs
Yes, he would be playing, because he's the franchise goalie. Doesn't matter if it's Brent Johnson or Ben Bishop behind him.

He's made a big stop or two...or three...he's also let in some that shouldn't have gone in, but it doesn't matter in the long run when the D has collapsed as bad as it has. He can't be expected to bail them out EVERY time.

My question still remains, name a goalie that would have the Pens in a better situation this series..it certainly isn't one of the backup targets you mentioned. This series is a mix of a team being outcoached, out played, and out classed. You can't pick one player to blame it on. Each and every player has dropped the ball here.

There's no reason to waste an asset and cap space on a backup. All we need is a vet that can let Fleury rest now and then in the regular season, which was lacking this year, but is never hard to find in the summer.


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He had the exact same D in last years playoffs, and they played pretty good, we need to put some blame on Fleury and not just blame everything on Lovejoy, Michalek, Orpik and MArtin
They didn't play all that great. The team played a better and tighter system because they knew they couldn't score goals. Bylsma has tried to run and gun with Philly and has failed miserably and for whatever reason won't change the gameplan. For what ever reason, Letang has looked like his rookie form this series, someone stole Martin's hockey sense over last summer, and it looks like the injuries have finally taken their toll on Orpik.

Fleury isn't above criticism, but I find it real hard to blame the goalie when I'm watching the worst defense being played since the X-generation teams.

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04-16-2012, 10:23 PM
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Yes, he would be playing, because he's the franchise goalie. Doesn't matter if it's Brent Johnson or Ben Bishop behind him.

He's made a big stop or two...or three...he's also let in some that shouldn't have gone in, but it doesn't matter in the long run when the D has collapsed as bad as it has. He can't be expected to bail them out EVERY time.

My question still remains, name a goalie that would have the Pens in a better situation this series..it certainly isn't one of the backup targets you mentioned. This series is a mix of a team being outcoached, out played, and out classed. You can't pick one player to blame it on. Each and every player has dropped the ball here.

There's no reason to waste an asset and cap space on a backup. All we need is a vet that can let Fleury rest now and then in the regular season, which was lacking this year, but is never hard to find in the summer.


name just one, how about J. Quick? hes played great and has made great saves do you want me to name any others?

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They didn't play all that great. The team played a better and tighter system because they knew they couldn't score goals. Bylsma has tried to run and gun with Philly and has failed miserably and for whatever reason won't change the gameplan. For what ever reason, Letang has looked like his rookie form this series, someone stole Martin's hockey sense over last summer, and it looks like the injuries have finally taken their toll on Orpik.

Fleury isn't above criticism, but I find it real hard to blame the goalie when I'm watching the worst defense being played since the X-generation teams.

well Letang is trying to cover for the Martin it seems like and is trying to do too much, he was better with Orpik.

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Just sign Al Montoya...
I'm looking at the Pens signing Al Montoya, Pens are high on Harrington, don't see him being traded for a back up goalie.

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