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René Lecavalier Divisional Seminfinals: Hartford vs. Lada

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04-20-2012, 06:38 AM
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That's why he won't face Clarke most of the time...
Lada's got a pretty big coaching advantage here, though, and Shero's also got the Kasper line to troll Mario when he can't get Clarke out there. Mario's got his work cut out for him.

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04-20-2012, 06:51 AM
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Lada's got a pretty big coaching advantage here, though, and Shero's also got the Kasper line to troll Mario when he can't get Clarke out there. Mario's got his work cut out for him.
Advantage in line-matching though? How good of a linematcher was Shero?

As I said, I don't think Kasper can be very effective against Mario. He's a dwarf going up against a center that's much bigger.

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04-20-2012, 06:58 AM
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Advantage in line-matching though? How good of a linematcher was Shero?
Matching the Clarke line against opponents' top offensive units was a big part of Philly's strategy and success. seventies could probably tell you more about the specifics.

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Matching the Clarke line against opponents' top offensive units was a big part of Philly's strategy and success. seventies could probably tell you more about the specifics.
Yeah, while it's true anecdotally that the Clarke line would get the heavy matchups most often, anecdotes and stats also show that Shero was a big time "everyone is equally important" coach who split the ice time up much more evenly among 12 forwards than any other coach I've seen. So even if Clarke was getting the tough minutes, the ice time distribution probably meant it wasn't as "strict" as it would be if a strict matchup coach was in charge.

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Advantage in line-matching though? How good of a linematcher was Shero?

As I said, I don't think Kasper can be very effective against Mario. He's a dwarf going up against a center that's much bigger.
I'm starting to sense why you think so many 80s and early 90s players are "overrated".. you don't know that much about them:

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The Bruins were effective containing center Mario Lemieux, who was held without a point for the second consecutive game.

Most of the credit goes to centers Steve Kasper and Dwight Foster, although O'Reilly deserves recognition for his creative approach to defensing Lemieux on the powerplay.

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04-20-2012, 11:19 AM
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So many? Like whom?

BTW Sturm thinks I hate on active players, you think I hate on 80s players...? Really?

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So many? Like whom?

BTW Sturm thinks I hate on active players, you think I hate on 80s players...? Really?
I think you have unusually large biases for and against players you have seen, make hyperbolic statements which you then refuse to disavow, and are at times almost completely impervious to facts. I think you place far too much value in your own memories and impressions, which are flawed like everyone else's, and far too little value in quantifiable measures of performance. This tends to affect your opinions of modern players moreso than others, but it is not specifically a case of "hating on modern players".

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So many? Like whom?

BTW Sturm thinks I hate on active players, you think I hate on 80s players...? Really?
Is it possible that you just hate every player? And you just do this to punish yourself?

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Is it possible that you just hate every player? And you just do this to punish yourself?
Isn't liking Hartford and Carolina punishment enough?


And I say this in all seriousness as a Leafs fan hahaha

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I think you have unusually large biases for and against players you have seen, make hyperbolic statements which you then refuse to disavow, and are at times almost completely impervious to facts. I think you place far too much value in your own memories and impressions, which are flawed like everyone else's, and far too little value in quantifiable measures of performance. This tends to affect your opinions of modern players moreso than others, but it is not specifically a case of "hating on modern players".
It may be true, to an extent. Now if I only knew which players this affects.

@BC: I doubt you're old enough to have seen the Leafs win a Cup, so it seems to be better to be a Whalers/Canes fan, thank you very much.

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04-20-2012, 11:54 AM
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Isn't liking Hartford and Carolina punishment enough?


And I say this in all seriousness as a Leafs fan hahaha
... You do realize that applies to both managers in this series.

And people wonder why the Canes board has become so sarcastic and has produced some of the best trolls in HF history. Gotta find something to do for fun when you have Paul Maurice as a coach for that long.

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In the second round's other super close series, Lada prevails in game 7 OT.

Good work by both of you.

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Not surprised TBH, Clarke-led team isn't a nice matchup for a pure offense squad, especially when one doesn't have the will and time to debate heavily.

Good luck going further Dave, WhalerCanes represent!

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04-25-2012, 11:33 AM
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Congrats to Dave on winning the battle of my former co-GM's. Best of luck to you for the rest of the playoffs.

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04-25-2012, 12:14 PM
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Great series Arcand, I had a feeling this one could have gone either way, and the results reflected that.

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Great series Arcand, I had a feeling this one could have gone either way, and the results reflected that.
I had a very hard time deciding this one, myself.

It was a close one.

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Surprised by this result. Expected Hartford to win. Congrats Dave.

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