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04-24-2012, 08:22 PM
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Staal has been stuck behind two elite centers though. There's reason to believe he's capable of much more in a bigger role and he started to show that when Sid was out for such a long time.
Looked at the numbers and you were correct.
The 81 games he played when crosby was gone he was 30G 34A

Sam gagner is 1.08 PPG when playing with hemsky?

Gagner and Hemaky For staal? not a Chance.

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I really wouldn't be comfortable with $6.5m for a 3rd line Center. If that's what he asks for then expect him to be gone. We've got other players that we need to sign up who play more important roles.
I HAVEN'T been comfortable with a $4 million dollar 3rd line center. At the end of the day, the only way RS could afford to pay Staal what he allegedly wants is: a) to have Staal play wing on the top 2 lines; or b) find a way to move BOTH Martin and Michaelek-

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04-24-2012, 09:46 PM
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Anaheim gives:

Kyle Palmieri
2012 1st (6th)
Toni Lydman

Pittsburgh gives:

Jordan Staal

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04-24-2012, 10:36 PM
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Jordon Staal
2nd pick 2013 ( If pens reach stanley cup final next year)

Penguins

Schenn
Kulemin
6th pick 2013 (If Toronto make the playoff next year)

Pens want to upgrade on D .... they get Schenn while they acquire top 6 forward in Kulemin to play alongside old buddy Malkin.

Toronto finally get their 1C to play with kessel.

win win for both teams

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Anaheim gives:

Kyle Palmieri
2012 1st (6th)
Toni Lydman

Pittsburgh gives:

Jordan Staal
Value is good. Just not sure it's right for us. I'd love Palmieri here.

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04-24-2012, 11:15 PM
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The Jordan Staal bidding war game

with Jordan possibly looking for more than 6 million a year, his time in Pittsburgh might be over, what would you do as a GM of your favourite team, and what would you offer for Staal?

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Kulemin, Gunnarsson, 2nd.

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04-24-2012, 11:21 PM
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Isn't there already a Staal thread?

The only person that claims Staal wants 6+ million is Josh Yoshe (Pens writer) and he basically pulled that number out of his rear end since it's just his guess.

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04-24-2012, 11:23 PM
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04-24-2012, 11:23 PM
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I'm still willing and want to do Kessel + Gunnarsson for Staal + Harrington but neither my own fanbase (leafs) or Pittsburgh's seem to like it

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04-24-2012, 11:30 PM
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I'm still willing and want to do Kessel + Gunnarsson for Staal + Harrington but neither my own fanbase (leafs) or Pittsburgh's seem to like it
I'd do it as a Penguins fan... but I can see why your fellow Leaf fans are reluctant. I know Gunnarsson had a good year, and was one of the better Maple Leaf defenseman. And then you obviously have the non-stop Kessel/Staal war going on, about who has more value and yada yada. Both are even IMO if Staal were to get a new contract.

Perhaps something like this is more fair in value, though I'm sure it'll still be flammable:

Kessel + Gunnarsson + 6th

for

Staal + Kennedy + Harrington + 3rd

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04-24-2012, 11:30 PM
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corey emmerton for jordan staal. signed, sealed, and delivered. wrap it up.

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04-24-2012, 11:36 PM
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Well...it looks like my offer was topped

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04-24-2012, 11:38 PM
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Anaheim gives:

Kyle Palmieri
2012 1st (6th)
Toni Lydman

Pittsburgh gives:

Jordan Staal
Only if Staal agrees to an extension first, which I'm not sure is even possible. Even then, thats a lot, and I think Pavelski could be had for less. I'd rather target someone locked up like Pavelski or Duchene if we're giving up Palmieri and the 6th overall.

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04-24-2012, 11:39 PM
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I'd do it as a Penguins fan... but I can see why your fellow Leaf fans are reluctant. I know Gunnarsson had a good year, and was one of the better Maple Leaf defenseman. And then you obviously have the non-stop Kessel/Staal war going on, about who has more value and yada yada. Both are even IMO if Staal were to get a new contract.

Perhaps something like this is more fair in value, though I'm sure it'll still be flammable:

Kessel + Gunnarsson + 6th

for

Staal + Kennedy + Harrington + 3rd
Leafs get a 3rd and Kennedy more then I offered so I now say HELL YEAH! Adding other smaller pieces to Toronto though won't change leaf fans mind on the matter though, Kessel for Staal is where they say no and are not interested in anything else haha.

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04-25-2012, 12:16 AM
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something around Iginla?
No he's old

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Okposo and Frans Nielsen? Might be willing to add a little more

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04-25-2012, 12:19 AM
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Buffalo is the new Toronto. "I guess we can take Staal off your hands. Here are some scraps."
Wow. Response of the year candidate?

Nice

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Leafs get a 3rd and Kennedy more then I offered so I now say HELL YEAH! Adding other smaller pieces to Toronto though won't change leaf fans mind on the matter though, Kessel for Staal is where they say no and are not interested in anything else haha.

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04-25-2012, 12:25 AM
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I'm still willing and want to do Kessel + Gunnarsson for Staal + Harrington but neither my own fanbase (leafs) or Pittsburgh's seem to like it
Why on earth would you trade Kessel? Staal's good but..not for Kessel. I don't like the Leafs anymore than any other respectable hockey fan but even I know that's a bad move for your team

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Why on earth would you trade Kessel? Staal's good but..not for Kessel. I don't like the Leafs anymore than any other respectable hockey fan but even I know that's a bad move for your team
Did you just say any Leaf fans isn't a respectable hockey fan?

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What about this:

To TOR: Staal

To PIT: MacArthur + Bozak + Colborne

A winger for their top 6, a 50 point right-handed(wins over 50%) centerman for their 3rd line to replace him, and a big center to fill the need for the future.

If Leafs trade for Staal and have Grabs, there might not be a need for Colborne anymore...

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04-25-2012, 12:38 AM
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Why on earth would you trade Kessel? Staal's good but..not for Kessel. I don't like the Leafs anymore than any other respectable hockey fan but even I know that's a bad move for your team
Staal got 50 points in 62 games this year, on pace for 66 a year. 7 of his points were on the powerplay. If he gets more powerplay time and better teammates for the powerplay time he gets that number can increase Staals production to PPG pace easy in my opinion. Staal is bigger, plays physical and is great defensively. Staal is a center who I think can be the #1 center on the leafs which is more valuable than a winger. A future top winger could be drafted this year, either Forsberg (I doubt Gal and Grig are around at #5) or move up and get Yakupov. Carlyle is bringing in a more defensive system into Toronto as the new coach, I'm not saying it would worsen Kessel's production but it certainly won't make it better and could create problems in the future if Kessel is unhappy playing in that system (hasn't yet for the dozen and a half games Carlyle has coached). Kessel when it is time for him to renew his contract will I'm guessing want more than Grabbo since he is better than Grabbo. The two never play together, I believe that if a team's two highest paid forwards don't play together, they should both be centers.

That's most of my reasoning as to why I'm okay with doing Kessel for Staal as a basis for a trade.

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corey emmerton for jordan staal. signed, sealed, and delivered. wrap it up.
This should be some kind of board penalty. I know not to take this user seriously in future posts

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