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05-25-2013, 12:25 PM
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Not picking Hedman would be stupid.

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You're forgetting Carl Gunnarson, would have him over some of the guys you listed.

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The worldwide is utdosering Downs.

Joel Lundqvist is defensive starter. Enroth in the Grease. Staffan Kronwall is chosen instead of Niklas. One twin is healthy. Måtts decides swedish defenders Will not be forechecked and picks Enström, Karlsson, Rundblad, Brodin, OEL and Elias Fälth to play themselves pur of forechecking forwards. Franzén and Landeskog is not invited because we cant take penalties fot lack of boxplayers. Tradition is kept with Lindberg, Sedin and earlier mentioned players. Steen, Söderberg and Silfverberg owns and Pääjärvi chips in à few assisted by point producent Pettersson. Hagelin is passed over in PP. Russin defense cant keep up and Canada is to spread out, USA is beaten in the finals.


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You're forgetting Carl Gunnarson, would have him over some of the guys you listed.
He could make it, this is my highly personal ranking and even with some other preferences I do not think Gunnarsson makes top 7. With injuries, who knows.

Erik Karlsson
Niklas Kronwall
Tobias Enström
Alexander Edler
Oliver Ekman-Larsson
Victor Hedman
Niklas Hjalmarsson
Jonas Brodin
Adam Larsson
Carl Gunnarsson
Jonathan Ericsson
Anton Strålman
Staffan Kronwall
Henrik Tallinder
Johnny Oduya
Nicklas Grossmann
David Rundblad
Douglas Murray
Tim Erixon
Erik Gustafsson

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Anyway, how good was'nt Fredrik Pettersson in the WC? Before it i was talking about Joel Lundqvist and Martin Thörnberg as checking outsiders, and although aforemost Thörnberg did'nt have that role in Stockholm, and therefore cant really be judged on his pure checking and defensive skills, Fredrik Pettersson might have passed them both in my book.

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05-26-2013, 07:47 AM
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Projected playing time for each line:

20, 18, 14 and 8 minutes?

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Projected playing time for each line:

20, 18, 14 and 8 minutes?

Special teams, better to speak in percentage of even strength. One just have to convert your numbers, no biggie, but it is more true to reality to do so (now I go on and discuss in minutes, mkay ).

I could go with your numbers for even strength, but with PP and PK added in I would guess that the Sedins for example will do PK (yes, that cycle can kill time and it has been done before) and add up at +20 minutes, no matter if they are first or second line. Same with the other top line. That on the other hand will reduce most - if not all of the players on the other lines to like.. say 10 and 5 minutes.

It would be nice to have some guys in the depth which can play special teams and lift the burden from the top players. That would be especially nice with forwards, the defence seems to be given in that aspect. Most likely the depth of our D will spread the time out for the defence guys.

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05-26-2013, 05:26 PM
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I'd like to see something like this.

(Sedin-Sedin)-Eriksson
Hagelin-(Zetterberg-Franzen)
Landeskog-(Bäckström-Johansson)
(Steen-Berglund)-Hörnqvist

Kronwall-Karlsson
Hedman-OEL
Enström-Hjalmarsson
Edler(Suspension)

Lundqvist
Enroth
Lehner/Fasth

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He could make it, this is my highly personal ranking and even with some other preferences I do not think Gunnarsson makes top 7. With injuries, who knows.

Erik Karlsson
Niklas Kronwall
Tobias Enström
Alexander Edler
Oliver Ekman-Larsson
Victor Hedman
Niklas Hjalmarsson
Jonas Brodin
Adam Larsson
Carl Gunnarsson
Jonathan Ericsson
Anton Strålman
Staffan Kronwall
Henrik Tallinder
Johnny Oduya
Nicklas Grossmann
David Rundblad
Douglas Murray
Tim Erixon
Erik Gustafsson
I don't disagree with your ranking per se, but it is definitely problematic that the second right shooting D on that list is number 9 overall... And that only 3 of 20 D's are right shooting.

We will have two lines on this team that is designated to spend a ton of time in the attacking zone cirlcing the puck. Both these lines are run by left handed playmakers who frequently comes out of the right corner with the puck. On top of it all, these lines will have a shortage of right shooting forwards.

And we can't dig up two right shooting D's to put on the right point??? Its ridiculous if we can't do that. Just like Danielsson on the right PP point was extremely effective with the Sedins -- they need a right shooting D there 5 on 5 too.

And if Bäckström plays with Z, you just must have a right shooting D on that line too (and preferbly Erik Karlsson too).

2 of those 3 right shooting D's (Erik Karlsson/David Rundblad/Adam Larsson) must IMHO be on this roster...

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I don't disagree with your ranking per se, but it is definitely problematic that the second right shooting D on that list is number 9 overall... And that only 3 of 20 D's are right shooting.

We will have two lines on this team that is designated to spend a ton of time in the attacking zone cirlcing the puck. Both these lines are run by left handed playmakers who frequently comes out of the right corner with the puck. On top of it all, these lines will have a shortage of right shooting forwards.

And we can't dig up two right shooting D's to put on the right point??? Its ridiculous if we can't do that. Just like Danielsson on the right PP point was extremely effective with the Sedins -- they need a right shooting D there 5 on 5 too.

And if Bäckström plays with Z, you just must have a right shooting D on that line too (and preferbly Erik Karlsson too).

2 of those 3 right shooting D's (Erik Karlsson/David Rundblad/Adam Larsson) must IMHO be on this roster...
Yes, it is Vancouver Canucks all over...

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05-27-2013, 09:56 AM
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I'd like to see something like this.

(Sedin-Sedin)-Eriksson
Hagelin-(Zetterberg-Franzen)
Landeskog-(Bäckström-Johansson)
(Steen-Berglund)-Hörnqvist

Kronwall-Karlsson
Hedman-OEL
Enström-Hjalmarsson
Edler(Suspension)

Lundqvist
Enroth
Lehner/Fasth
No need to have Bäckstrom on the third line playing 10-15 min/g
and most of that would be shorthanded. Better of having him on the second line and let the top 2 lines play 20-25 min each depending on pp. We dont have the depth to roll 3 lines.

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I don't disagree with your ranking per se, but it is definitely problematic that the second right shooting D on that list is number 9 overall... And that only 3 of 20 D's are right shooting.

We will have two lines on this team that is designated to spend a ton of time in the attacking zone cirlcing the puck. Both these lines are run by left handed playmakers who frequently comes out of the right corner with the puck. On top of it all, these lines will have a shortage of right shooting forwards.

And we can't dig up two right shooting D's to put on the right point??? Its ridiculous if we can't do that. Just like Danielsson on the right PP point was extremely effective with the Sedins -- they need a right shooting D there 5 on 5 too.

And if Bäckström plays with Z, you just must have a right shooting D on that line too (and preferbly Erik Karlsson too).

2 of those 3 right shooting D's (Erik Karlsson/David Rundblad/Adam Larsson) must IMHO be on this roster...
When you throw Rundblad's name out there against guys like Enström and Edler, it's just not worth it. Adam Larsson is on the bubble though, so if you're choosing between two equal talents you could favor the rightie.

Fun fact: Sweden has had two right-handed Olympic defensemen in total since 1994. Fredrik Olausson in 2002, and Mange Johansson in 2010. The 2006 gold team had none.

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05-28-2013, 09:55 AM
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When you throw Rundblad's name out there against guys like Enström and Edler, it's just not worth it. Adam Larsson is on the bubble though, so if you're choosing between two equal talents you could favor the rightie.

Fun fact: Sweden has had two right-handed Olympic defensemen in total since 1994. Fredrik Olausson in 2002, and Mange Johansson in 2010. The 2006 gold team had none.
Its possibly not worth it, and I am not "guaranteing" it, but Rundblad could climb the status latter in a hurry once he gets a chance and if he manage to put things together.

Rundblad is elite offensively from the blueline and in. I've seen him in the AHL this season, and he is really putting his mind into paying his dues in order to become a full time NHLer. I also saw him in the AHL when OEL and Stone was down there during the lockout, and Rundblad still stuck out in that comparision in terms of offense. To put it like this, I wouldn't at all be suprised if Rundblad was the 2nd highest scoring Swedish D in the NHL within 24 months.

But, I definitely agree with you that Rundblad isn't a top 8 Swedish D right now.

In the end, we will get zero offense from a left shooting right D on the Sedin's line. It doesn't matter if that D is OEL or Enström or Hedman. If you put a right handed shot you get like 2-4 prime scoring chances per game that you don't get otherwise.

Hockey is a team game and when building a team "details" can matter tremendously. Not playing a right shooting D with the Sedin's is just plain stupid. I would even go as far as saying that the Sedin's prime offensive tool is utilizing that shot when playing against a -- good -- defense. That defense can take away the space around the net, but the points are opened up. If you got a left D there, that extra second or two it takes to get an shot of will let the defending forward get into the shooting lane. But if you get a right shot there, like Danielsson on the PP in the WCH's, they will on a regular basis get shots off with alot of traffic infront of the goalie.

And the shot is definitely not the only aspect where a right D has an advantage over a left shooting D. He got a big advantage too when pinching in; when feetching pucks in his own end etc.

For me in the end, a requisite is that Rundblad does take another step next season and establish himself in the NHL. That is not guaranteedSo possibly its not worth it. But if he can, that left D making the team gotta be a helluva lot better than him to play.

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I'm not too sure about Adam Larsson. He has his ups and downs in New Jersey, still quite frequent on the bench. Yes, he has potential, but will he really be ready for a spot in Sochi? Not over some others. I'd rather have Carl Gunnarsson, for example. Hedman isn't a lock for me either, he's kind of the same as Larsson, even though he's obviously come a lot further. To me, anyway, the Olympics are the place where you take out the best performing players, it's a very short tournament, you don't bring along "prospects" unless they're really good and reliable.
I agree for sure on Adam Larsson's play.

He made alot of high quality plays defensively and offensively for NJD this season. But the consistency wasn't there to be a top 8 D for us. But, the kid is 20 y/o. He will be an alot better defender next season. That alone still probably not enough, but OTOH, I had him on my team roster above as an 8th D and I don't see us rolling 4 D pairings when it matters in the Olympics. No team is even elminated after the first three games.

So I wouldn't be that afraid to pick AL for the 8th D spot. If he plays at the Olympics and is composed and gets the job done, he might be able to do the trick as the right shooting D with the Sedin's.

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I agree for sure about Brodin. He is a fantstically gifted D. I wonder if he -- today -- isn't among the absolute top D's in the world at getting the puck out of his own end and into the attacking zone.

You of course really gotta monitor these young D's, but I would go with this roster for the above reasons:
Sedin-Sedin-Louie
Edler-Rundblad//Rundblad gives the Sedin's a top notch shot from the right point. Edler can shoot from the left point. They should spend alot of time in the attacking zone against any team.

Z-Bäckström-Alfie/Silverberg
Kronwall-E Karlsson//Karlsson could be a top scorer at OG's playing on this unit, a 4th forward. Also an awsome line that I think could play 20 minutes and more or less dominate against the best of Canada/Russia/USA.

Franzen-Jimmie Ericsson-Landeskog
Brodin-Tallinder//A checking/character line. I wouldn't gamble on Patrick Berglund, but go with Jimmie Ericsson instead. They are not supposed to achieve anything really, but not loosing games for us. Brodin gets a shot because he is so darn good at getting the puck up ice. He is used ot the big ice etc. Brodin alone will make the top line of Canada/Russia/USA spend more time in their defensive zone than they want to.

The NHL breed forecheckers will just not catch him when he fetches pucks in the corners and skates it out of trouble. It would be so tough to play against him, even for the better teams.

Hagelin-Joel Lundqvist-Steen
OEL-Adam Larsson//For the PK and for a 4th line in general, it would make more sense with more defensive minded Ds on this line. But these two have played together before (in the WJC's), and could be used as insurence at any postiion in the top 6 really. We will not roll 4 D pairings anyway when it matters.

Also, OEL is not a "3rd pairing" D by my book. He makes alot of misstakes with the puck, and can be a tad ineffective. The typical nr 1 D's get away with that when playing 25 minutes a night. But when the same D's play 15 minutes a night, its seldom effective. I've followed international hockey closely for 20+ years, I just get a bad feeling about OEL on a 3rd pairing.

You also have Hedman who is getting better by the year. Its extremely tough to leave him off the team. I love Brodin, but Hedman is extremely close to replacing him on this roster by my book. Enström is doing a fantastic job for the Pegs, but OTOH, he is definitely more of a top 4 D and he isn't a top 4 D for us. We could also use more crease clearers on the PK and defensively. Grossman stands out as the top defensive Swedish D in the NHL. He is a character D who I would love to have on this team. And so forth.


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The way I see it with Larsson is that they had him play offensive situations in his first season, and defensive situations this season. If he starts next season by playing all situations(22-23 minutes a game) he becomes an option. And he probably needs that, if he wasn't wanted at the World Champs this season he's got a mountain to climb to make the Olympics 9 months later. But he's a late -92 birthday and at the stage where you can get a breakout season anytime soon, so never say never about that.

For Rundblad I think the Olympics come a year too soon. He needs a full NHL season first and round out his game the hard way. As much as he's focused on improving his defense in Portland it's not the same thing as NHL seasoning. Offensively he's fine of course, but with the top players and top depth we have I don't think they'd bring a PP specialist to play 6-7 minutes a game. If you hit the injury bug it would be stupid not to have another guy around that can step up and play 20 minutes a game.

Also, BÅG was a fan of the 8D 12F mix, but I think Mårts favors 7D 13F(assuming it's 3+20?).

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Also, BÅG was a fan of the 8D 12F mix, but I think Mårts favors 7D 13F(assuming it's 3+20?).
It's 22 skaters, 3 goalies.

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Joe89- That might be true (re 12+8/13+7). Unlike the WCH's you have taxi squad and can replace guys during the tournament, but you are not very flexible if its a day-to-day thing with one forward.

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It's 22 skaters, 3 goalies.
Oh that's good then. If I recall last time around we had 11 forwards some games because of injuries, it was pretty stupid.

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Larsson could make my team if he plays well next season. The fact that he wasn't selected for this WC might indicate that he's not even on Mårts radar. The final team will probably be selected in December (22nd in 2005 and 29th in 2009) so Larsson does not have a whole lot time to impress Mårts next season.

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2 of those 3 right shooting D's (Erik Karlsson/David Rundblad/Adam Larsson) must IMHO be on this roster...
Lead my rips: Z-I-B-A-N-E-J-A-D. Twins need no righthander.

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It's 22 skaters, 3 goalies.
14 + 8 + 3 then? Or maybe 13 + 9 + 3 (Enström instead of Zibanejad in my case, terrible me picking Enström last all the time). Good news for Edler. He can be the incoming no. 8 or no. 9 guy, providing both playmaking and some physics.

Sedin - Sedin - Eriksson
Zetterberg - Bäckström - Franzén
Hagelin - Berglund - Hörnqvist
Steen - Lundqvist - Landeskog
(Zibanejad) - Krüger - (Alfredsson)

Ekman-Larsson - Karlsson / Enström
Hjalmarsson - Hedman
Kronwall - Ericsson
Gunnarsson - Edler / Kronwall

Lundqvist / Enroth
Markström / Lehner



Age structure:

41 Afredsson (C)
34 Franzén
33 Sedin Sedin H (A) Zetterberg (A) Kronwall
31 Lundqvist Lundqvist Kronwall
29 Steen Ericsson Enström
28 Eriksson
27 Edler Hörnqvist Gunnarsson
26 Bäckström Hjalmarsson
25 Berglund Hagelin Enroth
24 Markström
23 Karlsson Hedman Krüger
22 Ekman-Larsson
21 Landeskog
20 Zibanejad



Some kind of depth chart: 35

Some kind of depth chart:

Daniel Sedin Henrik Sedin Loui Eriksson
Henrik Zetterberg Nicklas Bäckström Johan Franzén
Carl Hagelin Alexander Steen Patric Hörnqvist
Marcus Krüger Patrik Berglund Gabriel Landeskog
Oscar Lindberg Marcus Johansson Jimmie Ericsson
Niklas Persson Joel Lundqvist Gustav Nyquist

Erik Karlsson Victor Hedman
Oliver Ekman Larsson Alexander Edler
Niklas Kronwall Jonathan Ericsson
Niklas Hjalmarsson Johnny Oduya
Jonas Brodin Nicklas Grossman
Erik Gustafsson Henrik Tallinder
Douglas Murray

Henrik Lundqvist
Jhonas Enroth
Robin Lehner


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That was a surprise, I also thought it was 20 spots. Well, then Edler has a better chance to be picked despite the suspension. But Enström can be a replacement. He has the ability to perform impressive defence on the big ice, I suppose without having seen him many games the last years.

My proposal of defensive pairings:
Kronwall - Ekman-Larsson
Hjalmarsson - Karlsson
Tallinder - Enström
Hedman - Brodin

It would be a very young bunch of players, but the most skilled must get the chance to play. Maybe Hedman is a doubt on big ice, he would need some preparation games before.
I am hoping very much for Jonas Brodin and it would be perfect if he got much icetime in Minnesota next year as well and plays as solid as he did this "short" season.

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A few word for Daniel Alfredsson. Ottawa is on the rise heavily and Tre Kronor will have a team that might compete with the best we've ever had. It has superstars in their prime and younger players that will have their breakthrough this coming season. Please stay in the game! But not for less than 5 million I did summer training until I was 14 so I know what I'm talking about here. Not being 21. Look at the Olympics as a chance to play 14 minutes a game. What a relief! And what a sports accomplishment, doing what you are doing at this stage in your career. Maybe Gonchar might join you. And we need someone at RW to stay out of the penalty box. 40 is the new 30.


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Probable 2006 olympic winners still olympic Tre Kronor-ish.


35 G Henrik Lundqvist 185 cm (6 ft 1 in) 87 kg (190 lb) 2 March 1982 Åre New York Rangers

7 D Niklas Kronwall 183 cm (6 ft 0 in) 86 kg (190 lb) 12 January 1981 Järfälla Detroit Red Wings

11 F Daniel Alfredsson 182 cm (6 ft 0 in) 90 kg (200 lb) 11 December 1972 Gothenburg Ottawa Senators
12 F Daniel Sedin 186 cm (6 ft 1 in) 90 kg (200 lb) 26 September 1980 Örnsköldsvik Vancouver Canucks
20 F Henrik Sedin 188 cm (6 ft 2 in) 91 kg (200 lb) 26 September 1980 Örnsköldsvik Vancouver Canucks
40 F Henrik Zetterberg 180 cm (5 ft 11 in) 86 kg (190 lb) 9 October 1980 Njurunda Detroit Red Wings


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And...the team no one thought of:

Sedin - Bäckström - Eriksson (injuries seldom happen in forums)
Steen - Söderberg - Silfverberg (rule in SEL)
Backlund - Berglund - Hagelin (could rule in Allsvenskan)
Pettersson - Larsson - Samuelsson (Ss better shooter than Lando and with more attitude, BAG (appointed captain after Mårts, see below) says to himself)
Zetterberg (slump) - Weinhandl and Mårtensson are some kind of taxi squad, together with Ericsson (F) (refuses to play defense so BAG let him sit) but plays no games. They join the parade however. Alfredsson is on vacation but is there in cognito, in his mind only. BAG is critized for us ALWAYS having to few defenders on the team. Why 9 when you can manage with six, BAG replies. BAG also gets the blame for WVS (winter vomit sickness that follows Sweden to Sotji). Karlsson plays 37 minutes in the finals and is awarded a battery and sports refreshment commercial contract. He rather wants a contract for Cook(i)e's a North American journalist tells the Ottawan (biggest newspaper there).

Gunnarsson - Karlsson (one cleaning lady and one maniac)
Hjalmarsson - Enström (ocl & om)
Öhlund - Kronwall S (Tampa won't let Hedman go, so they send a replacement, an international court in Moscow later decides after our prime minister first goes to Florida to sort things out, yes, taxpayers agree since, after all, we are the world champions)
Brodin (is better than OEL everyone says and has better stats in the autumn) - Ronnie Sundin (Edler (?) decides to go to Sotji the other way and ends up in a Mongolian prison after he faces the Staal brothers who, suspiciously found out about the whole thing and took the same flight to ULA from LAX (Los Angeles Airport) as well (dressed in women's burkhas), gets involved in a fight at the airport, knocks down the little brother and causes a hamstring on Eric, driving Reginald Donald Sherry to a heart attack home in Ontario, gets caught by the airport police as the last punch is coming towards the Hurricane and misses the whole show for two weeks, spends it on a Best Western Hotel with cable and room service, thereby serving his three games sentence (easiest time he ever did) but forces Ronnie out of retirement when he happen to be on the scene in Sotji and Tre Kronor just have to name a defender who is there in person and gets to play a few games from the quarter finals and on (Gunnarsson down with the flu and Enström agoraphobic (from the big ice) in the pool going 3 0+1 -1 with 2 penalty minutes and a total of ten minutes on the ice making Markström look like Enroth in WC in comparison. Causing Pudding (our equipment technician) to have to WRITE a name by hand on the back of a jersey for the first time. SUMDIM it spells, making Ronnie a big hero in the whole of east asia. The lifelong free meals that are promised by all restaurants in Kanton are split between Pudding and Ronnie. The Staal brothers? Lifelong suspensions from international hockey, a jury with one Kazakh and one Finn says. Another jury with an american and and a canadian rules against it later on when they found out the Staals never laid his hands on the Canuck. Don gets better, thank you, God.

Gustavsson
Markström
Ersberg

Dr Lund...(Manhattan shut down because of a virus, all the millionaires are gathered in the Trump tower, OCD (google it) hits King Henrik as n o bottle's of Head & Shoulders can be found.)
Enroth? No games at all in NHL. Buffalo GM's daughter is married to Yzerman's god son. And they get along well.

Mårts is fired in the autumn for bad results in Euro Fläng Hockey. Conny turns down an invitation, Wikegård is banned by the players, even the Angry Chef (bears no resemblance with the Swedish Chef in the Muppet Show, since he gets his message out LOUD and c l e a r) maybe with Wikegård (carrot)) who becomes a candidate, but the circus all ends when BAG (stands for laisse faire) happily accepts, later winning his second olympic gold. Pettersson replicates his Globen penalty shot in the semi (Holtby reads him and pulls a Salo) but becomes nervous and hits the bar. He instantly becomes a gay icon for showing his emotions in front of the whole Eurovision Song Contest audience who fills out the expensive seats. Minus becomes plus as the olympic books are summed up). Loui nets one against Russia in the finals (assisted by a sideways sliding and head nodding Henrik Sedin). No one else does. Ovechkin stumbles in front of Gustavsson in the last minute, completely free with the puck and not one swedish JAS for hundreds of miles, and makes Putin scream out as the only one. TV-stations catch him saying something about invading Gotland causing an international squibble (squabble but without verbal interaction) and estate prices in Slite (remember Lycos?) to rise. All is coming to an end when the victims of the plane crash are remembered at the price ceremony. Switzerland brings home the bronze. Roetlichberger and Reit Im Winkl become national heroes. Canada wins the WC later in spring. Jared Staal (no. 4 or 5 (or even six) in the hierarchy) is on the team but play no games. Khungs-Trey-gar-den. Brrr.


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The defense question is driving me a bit nuts. Can't figure out who to pick. One guy who I'm really on the fence with is Ericsson. Him and Kronwall are Detroit's first pairing. Surely it's a great advantage to have such an established duo as one of the pairings in a short tournament. Big crease clearer and PK:er as well and we can't have a team of PP guys.. but who to leave off? Arghh.. But, balance should be prioritized over name recognition for sure.

Whoever they choose as the defensive group, I'm sure there will be a meltdown on here amongst us Swedes..

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