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04-28-2012, 12:43 AM
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And the Twins lose to the worst team in baseball, 7-6. Wait...we ARE the worst team in baseball.


Lead the AL in one run games as well. Shucks...
5 wins in 20 games... simply stunning. On pace for 40 wins, which I'm pretty sure is what I set the over-under at earlier this year...

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04-28-2012, 01:06 AM
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Before taking Smith our safety depth was; Mistral Raymond, Eric Frampton, and Jamarca Sanford.

Yeah.

Ouch.

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5 wins in 20 games... simply stunning. On pace for 40 wins, which I'm pretty sure is what I set the over-under at earlier this year...
The last 12 months the Minnesota pro sports scene has been an absolute train wreck. I was hoping the Gophs could at least ease some of the pain with nat. champ. #6, but nooooooo, they had to go down in flames as well.


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That CB seems like a pretty smart pick. He has the speed to keep up with the top receivers. Won't likely be a threat to intercept much but at least give them trouble.

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Glad they took a corner, we needed one badly..I like the kalil pick too.

Cook has never impressed me, seemed like every time I watched last season he was the guy getting beat...

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Greg Childs.

Don't know or follow college football so I don't know squat about him.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmSgv7X5h0E

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And then another Fighting Irish. CB Robert Blanton. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6VW8TqScdE

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So, thats two from USC(Kalil, Ellison) Two from Notre Dame(Smith, Blanton) and two from Arkansas (Childs, Wright)

Did Spielman only scout threet teams or what??

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So, thats two from USC(Kalil, Ellison) Two from Notre Dame(Smith, Blanton) and two from Arkansas (Childs, Wright)

Did Spielman only scout threet teams or what??
Probably only went to 3 pro days.. LOL.

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04-28-2012, 05:04 PM
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Hey! We got a kicker from UGA! :p

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Here's a draft summary I did on another site.



4th - Matt Kalil -- LT -- USC
[1] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SkoO0efgGy8&feature=plcp
29th - Harrison Smith -- S -- ND
[2] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HDZf55pb7Ic
66th - Josh Robinson -- CB -- Central Florida
[3] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPcaP...layer_embedded
[4] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQgNy...layer_embedded
118th - Jarius Wright -- WR -- Arkansas
[5] http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=pA2f__IFjYA
128th - Rhett Ellison -- TE/FB -- USC
[6] http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=GtQOjdDEXY0
134th - Greg Childs -- WR -- Arkansas
[7] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2qMqk...layer_embedded
[8] http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=q34CibNz5Bc
139th - Robert Blanton -- CB/S -- ND
[9] http://www.patriots.com/media-center...d-64ad0ab75460
175th - Blair Walsh -- K -- UGA
[10] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gO1DfIH_oqA
210th - Audie Cole -- LB -- NCST
[11] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3PGXnIyukIQ
219th - Trevor Guyton -- DE -- Cal
[12] http://www.patriots.com/media-center...6-919b7496cc36
My takes:
Kalil - The logical pick. Couldn't have missed between Claiborne and Kalil, glad they went with the move that will keep Ponder upright. Charlie Johnson can move inside, this move improves 3 positions. (LT, LG, QB). Also, they picked up 3 extra picks at the expense of the Browns and still got their guy, so this may be the best selection of the draft.
[13] http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/...lil?id=2533131
Smith - A great fit in the cover 2, Vikings get the #2 safety in a weak safety draft. He will have to really flounder not to be a starter week 1. Any draft you can get 2 starters out of day one is a good draft.
[14] http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/...ith?id=2532948
Robinson - Vikings channel al Davis and take the fastest guy in the draft. Been clocked sub 4.3 in the 40 time. Also had a great 20 yard shuttle vertical and broad jump. He will likely compete to be a starting corner, but more likely will not open the year at that position. Really like this pick.
[15] http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/...son?id=2533542
Wright - A burner at WR, gives the Vikings another deep threat. It will be interesting to see if Ponder can develop that aspect of his game. Downfield passing was poor last season, but the wide receivers the vikings ran out there were not very good. Wright is likely in competition for the #4 WR spot in competition with another Arkansas WR the Vikings selected Greg Childs. He also will compete with Robinson for return duties as Harvin is no longer going to be out there.
[16] http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/...ght?id=2532978
Ellison - When ESPN listed him as a FB I was scratching my head. But he'll likely play an H-Back role. Blocking TE part of the time, lead blocker on other downs. Ok pick. Probably a candidate to end up on the practice squad or not with the team
[17] http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/...son?id=2532835
Childs - An Arkansas pipeline is starting to materialize in Minnesota. Vikings get a possession receiver to compliment the downfield threats they've added this offseason in Simpson and Wright. Should compete to be a #4 this season.
[18] http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/...lds?id=2533334
Blanton - A corner at ND, likely a safety in the NFL. Vikings are getting really heavy with former Irish (Carlson, Rudolph, Smith and Blanton). If Blanton impresses he's going to have a shot at starting. The Vikings are incredibly weak at safety and any new blood will be good for the position. I hope this pick does not mean Abdullah is not re-signed. Despite his concussions I think he has a chance to be a starter
[19] http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/...ton?id=2532794
Walsh - A head scratcher of a pick. I did not expect a kicker. He's hit some long ones at UGA, so perhaps he can find a niche as a kick off specialist to begin with, ore more likely be stashed in the practice squad as Longwell's eventual replacement.
[20] http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/...lsh?id=2533011
Cole - Fills a need. Should add some depth at ILB with Jasper Brinkley being the only rostered ILB that I can name come up with.
[21] http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/...ole?id=2532814
Guyton - Another depth move. Hard to really praise or admonish a 7th round pick. Didn't play much at Cal which is why he dropped this far. I'll take it.
[22] http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/...ton?id=2532854
Trade Summary
1.)) Vikings Receive (From Cleveland): Picks 4, 118, 139, 211
Vikings Lose (to Cleveland): Pick 3
2.)) Vikings Receive (From Baltimore): Pick 29
Vikings Lose (To Baltimore): Picks 35, 98
3.)) Vikings Receive (From Detroit): Pick 219, and 2013 4th round pick,
Vikings Lose (To Detroit): Picks 138, 2223
4.)) Vikings Receive (From Tennessee): 2013 6th round pick
Vikings Lose (to Tennessee): Pick 211

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04-28-2012, 07:34 PM
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Greg Childs.

Don't know or follow college football so I don't know squat about him.
Looking at this video, he reminds me of Sidney Rice... not blazing fast but has deceptive speed... Good size and hands.

Overview

Childs was inconsistent at Arkansas but showed enough that he should be a late-round pick. He was obviously uncomfortable when running routes in 2011 after suffering a torn patella tendon the previous season.

Analysis

Strengths
Childs understands how to use his body in the short game to create the space needed to be effective. He builds up his speed throughout the route and can battle with corners underneath when trying to gain position on slant and drive routes. He isn't a physical player, but he will use his big frame to shield when necessary. When running the fade route, he understands how to use the sideline to his advantage. He can make any catch and can torque his body when running in-phase.

Weaknesses
Childs' lack of speed is obvious on routes deeper than five to 10 yards. He is not explosive and struggles to separate from receivers, though the ability to separate is becoming increasingly important in the NFL. He is not a deep threat and makes all downfield plays solely because of his size. Childs is just an average athlete who will struggle to make an immediate impact at the next level.




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04-28-2012, 07:38 PM
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Jarius Wright looks like a backup slot guy behind Harvin. Someone who can lineup in the slot when Harvin moves to the backfield etc or when Harvin needs a break. He will also likely return punts.

His lack of size is more of a problem than it is for Harvin, as he is no where near as solidly built. He's going to struggle against physical corners.

Overview

Wright has been a consistent starter for Arkansas since his freshman year. He is undersized but has legitimate 4.4 speed in the 40-yard dash, which he uses well in all aspects of his game. He wasn't used much as a returner, but he is an option for NFL teams there based off his ball handling, quickness and long speed. He has fourth-round value working out of the slot at the next level.

Analysis

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Wright is a very quick player who understands how to work out of the slot and sit down in the hole of a zone defense. He is tough in traffic and a deep threat who runs good routes. He understands the angling aspect of route running and how to create separation. He has quick hands to snag the ball in short throws and the ability to reel it in deep. He could add value at the return positions, although he hasn't displayed much on special teams in college.

Weaknesses
Wright is undersized, and although he gives great effort in the run game, he struggles to sustain his blocks. He utilizes quick feet off the line but can get jammed up by bigger corners.




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I'm fairly happy with this draft, and it has been a number of years since I have said that about my Vikings ( I think 2008 was last time I really liked it)
Kalil is the guy I wanted in our opening spot, parlaying that into 3 additional later picks is cool, but nothing special. As an O-lineman appreciator, I love the pick and how it naturally fills 2 spots on the line.

Harrison Smith is a good take. Any talent we can get at the safety position is a help right now. Hopefully he becomes solid back there.

I wanted the team to trade back into the 2nd round and pick up Stephon Hill, just for his physical measureables and potential, but if Greg Childs is healthy, I think he can turn into a pretty darn good WR as well. Could end up being Steal of the Draft.

Going into camp now, we have some battles to look forward to in the WR and CB spots. It seems like there are a number of depth players there now, but still lacking the true top-level talents at those skill positions. LB also appears to be lacking depth with EJ not re-signed.

Vikings have 2 immediate starters, and a possible 4 starters overall from this draft if things work out.

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Blanton, the CB from Notre Dame will likely be moved to safety, and from the sounds of it... may end up starting.

We may actually have a TWO rookie safeties from Notre Dame starting come the opener!

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Robert Blanton

Overview

Blanton was a reliable, if not flashy, cornerback at Notre Dame. At this point, he could step in as a stopgap but has work to do before he can be a starter in the NFL. Blanton is a heady prospect who plays to his strengths. He understands footwork and technique in man-to-man coverage, but is not athletic enough to run freely with any receiver. He could be a backup as an outside corner or even in the nickel spot, and is worth a third-round pick.

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Blanton can work in both man-to-man and zone coverage and provide support against the run. He has copious experience playing the nickel position in the slot and should be able to provide an NFL team with depth at that spot. He can recognize routes and jump on them quickly in zone coverage, and he can use his long arms to recover and make plays on the ball in man coverage. There are small inconsistencies in his technique, but he is able to use his size and length to make plays.

Weaknesses
Blanton has struggled with his backpedal and his technique at the top of routes, though he is able to recognize when he's off-line, stick his foot in the ground and redirect himself. He has a tendency to widen his feet and lose ground, which could prove costly at the next level. He also lacks the elite speed he would need to cover top-tier NFL receivers man-to-man.

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I have to think the Twins will allow Pujols' first homer this series.

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I have to think the Twins will allow Pujols' first homer this series.
Just missed it by a yard on that last swing.

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So Morneau injured his wrist again.

Why are we paying this soft clown - most overrated player in the league - almost $15M a year?

We should have gotten rid of him (Blue Jays would have liked to have a Canadian former league MVP), kept Cuddy and made the Willingham signing, possibly the only bright spot for the club in the last 16 months.

This team is so bad they may break the all time worst record for the club at this rate.

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Coomer said they would probably try and work out a contract if he could stay healthy. They need to offer him < $5m if that's the case. He only plays about 1/3 of the time.

The only thing he's done this year is play decoy so Willingham can smash the ball.

I do like Coomer's take though that the Twins need to move the fences in by 10-20 feet.

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That Childs/Wright receiver set could be interesting, especially with Harvin in the fold, and if Simpson plays.

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I feel terrible for Morneau...poor guy. Had(s) so much talent too.

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Twins are going to get shutout by something named Jerome Williams....comedy.

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Three singles. No hits after the third inning. Yeah, this Twins team is going to be great.

At this point I'm just debating which of the Wolves, Wild, Vikings or Twins is the most horrid.

We basically have the worst pro sports scene on the entire continent at this point.

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Three singles. No hits after the third inning. Yeah, this Twins team is going to be great.

At this point I'm just debating which of the Wolves, Wild, Vikings or Twins is the most horrid.

We basically have the worst pro sports scene on the entire continent at this point.
Easily not the Wolves.

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