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04-26-2012, 09:07 PM
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They have so many holes, should they use the extra picks to try move their existing picks higher, or just select more players?
Filled the LT for the next decade. Our DBs are some of the worst in the league. Our wideouts pretty much SUCK. Those two areas need to be tackled next, IMO.

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04-26-2012, 09:27 PM
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Probably Stephen Hill or Janoris Jenkins.. But the Bengals might end up taking Jenkins. Seems to fit their MO.
I think the Bengals would take Kirkpatrick before Jenkins.

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I think the Bengals would take Kirkpatrick before Jenkins.
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04-26-2012, 09:57 PM
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What time does the second round start tomorrow anyway?

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04-26-2012, 10:33 PM
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What time does the second round start tomorrow anyway?
7et, so... 6pm here.

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Minnesota back in the first and on the clock at #29...

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Vikes traded the 35th and 98th overall picks for the 29th overall.

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Vikes take Safety Harrison Smith from Notre Dame.

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04-26-2012, 10:49 PM
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Vikes take Safety Harrison Smith from Notre Dame.
Like Smith, but I would have really like to see Jenkins here. Hopefully we can move back into the mid 2nd to get a WR.

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From NFL.com

Overview
Harrison is an ultra-athletic, big and smart safety who has roamed the secondary as a four-year starter and senior captain for Notre Dame. He is the type of safety who is always involved, using his quickness, recognition and overall body control to react effectively to plays. While he has just adequate speed, he makes up for this deficiency with strong play recognition and anticipation, and he is often in a position to make a play on the ball. Overall, Smith is a smart, athletic defender who should push to start early in a zone-heavy NFL scheme. Expect him to contend for a late first-round selection with the help of impressive postseason workouts and interviews.

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Strengths
Smith is an athletic, smart free safety. He is strong and has great size for the position, and he shows up in the run game as effectively as he does against the pass. He stands out as a lengthy athlete who has range to match NFL speed across the defensive backfield. He is extremely reliable and effective in run support, which comes from his ability to read and react to plays on a quick twitch off the snap. Smith was very productive in college and rarely misses. He is a drag-down tackler who is always around the ball. Although he may have to catch and rarely delivers a blow, he is consistent. As a pass-defender, he is able to read the ball in the air and make plays all across the back end of the defense. He is able to read the quarterback well in zone and uses his athletic ability to turn and run to make plays on the ball. He is a long-strider as a runner and can turn and ignite a quick burst to run down a receiver downfield. He can then utilize his length to make strong plays on the ball. If he is in position, he will make the big interception.

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Smith can struggle when covering man to man. He often finds himself in a poor position when the ball is thrown. Short area movements are of a concern somewhat, so he will be much better in a read-and-react zone defense in which he can rely on instincts and recognition more than athletic ability. While he shows up as a solid athlete in every other aspect of his game, his technique in man coverage will expose some inconsistencies in his footwork, as he often relies too heavily on his recover ability and overall length to make plays on the ball. Though he is a somewhat fluid athlete, he can be beaten by quick-twitch and explosive movers.

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04-26-2012, 11:05 PM
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I don't know anything about most of the picks but this one scares me.

He looks awfully stiff while running, reminds me of Tyrell Johnson too much.

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04-26-2012, 11:13 PM
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04-27-2012, 06:35 AM
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Clay Mathews lookalike. Hopefully he can be even remotely as good. Safety would definitely been probably the ONE position I could have played had I played football. I think I would have been good as a defensive defenseman myself I never let anyone get by me and I loved to hit.

So far the Queens have done good this draft, IMO. Mike and Mike just said we, Pitt and NE were the biggest winners yesterday.

Let's see where they go today...

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Vikes did really well yesterday with Kalil and Smith. I'd rather they traded 118 instead of 98 to move up but it's whatever.

We need to go WR today. Simpson is out 3 games. Jenkins is meh. Aromashodu is extra meh and the rest of the guys we got are practice squad fodder types.

I hope Jeffery, Sanu, Hill, Randle or Quick fall to #66. Although Hill and Randle are extremely unlikely to. I think the Rams will start the day by taking one of them.

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04-27-2012, 11:27 AM
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Outside of the top 5 or so, I paid absolutely no attention to the available players for the NFL draft. That said, the Vikes have so many holes, I think the only positions they can "go wrong" drafting at are if they select a QB, RB, or probably TE. Well, now that they picked a tackle and safety, I'd rather they stay away from those two spots as well. I'd like to see them further improve the secondary and O-Line before getting too carried away with other offensive types though.

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04-27-2012, 12:03 PM
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Apparently Delmon Young committed a hate crime....

What a lousy guy.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-bi...HRlc3QD;_ylv=3

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Apparently Delmon Young committed a hate crime....

What a lousy guy.

http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/mlb-bi...HRlc3QD;_ylv=3
Well at least he waited until he was associated with another team to do this kind of crap.

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04-27-2012, 12:15 PM
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On the six-year anniversary of Delmon throwing a bat at an umpire, he beat up a man outside the Tigers' hotel while highly intoxicated and yelling anti-semitic insults.

Banish him.

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04-27-2012, 12:43 PM
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Vikes didn't do too bad yesterday. Scared Cleveland into giving up three later round picks while getting their guy at LT. Picked up a pretty good safety. I don't think it's possible to fix all the Vikings problems in one draft.

My gut tells me the team would be better off trying to improve at CB, S, and offensive/defensive lines instead of trying to improve the offense this year.

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04-27-2012, 12:45 PM
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Vikes didn't do too bad yesterday. Scared Cleveland into giving up three later round picks while getting their guy at LT. Picked up a pretty good safety. I don't think it's possible to fix all the Vikings problems in one draft.

My gut tells me the team would be better off trying to improve at CB, S, and offensive/defensive lines instead of trying to improve the offense this year.
Yeah, keep the Quarterback from being turned into paste with this draft, worry about who he can actually throw to later one when we know he'll have a chance to throw.

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04-27-2012, 01:04 PM
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I think this is a good year to address WR, it's an exceptionally deep draft as far as wide outs go, IMO. With Hill, Randle, Jeffery, Sanu, Quick, McNutt, and my boy Marvin Jones left. We should be in the running to get at least one of them. Any of those guys would help us.

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04-27-2012, 01:23 PM
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I think this is a good year to address WR, it's an exceptionally deep draft as far as wide outs go, IMO. With Hill, Randle, Jeffery, Sanu, Quick, McNutt, and my boy Marvin Jones left. We should be in the running to get at least one of them. Any of those guys would help us.
Wideouts are just so unreliable, and so hard to project. It would hurt a lot to waste a pick on a WR who flops when we could have filled a different need. If a WR is clearly the "BPA" when we are picking, I don't mind it. But I don't think the team should pass over an equal candidate for another spot to grab one.

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Vikings' 29th overall pick Harrison Smith's workout is intense enough to cover the two of us. Got sore watching that. Now I can treat myself to something nice and fattening later. Good workout boys.

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Saw this over at ******, 1st round picture analysis
http://draftcountdown.com/forum/showthread.php?t=52641

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