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04-20-2012, 11:04 AM
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I didn't say he sucked I said he lost 2 very winnable games. His rebound control is awful so far watch how many pucks he kick directly back into the slot how many puck has he dropped without catching it clean . He is good and game 3 showed that but he can't lose a series to Anderson and ever be taken serious .. Hank is the king of ny because for years he was the star now the team is legit and he needs to elevavate his game
here's where we disagree.

Lundqvist HAS elevated his game.

Some of the stops he has had to make are insane and it's 100% unfair for a team to ask him to do that every game.

At some point the team has to give him some support and not give up the the whole sheet of ice save for a few feet around the goalie.

The Rangers goalie is legit, and now the TEAM needs to elevate their game to give their one true elite level player some support.

Your assertions here are off base. The issues you have are mis-directed. Lundqvist is tending some of the best playoff net I have seen in a long time.

The forwards are still playing regular season hockey with the exception of Boyle.

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04-20-2012, 11:22 AM
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Clearly it should be chad johnson between the pipes.

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Soooo, the shutout in game 3? What was that?
Not an OT game? Hanks fantastic. All I'm saying is he doesn't have that extra edge that some goaltenders have when it matters most. He's consistent no matter the situation. If a shot is taken, he has a 93% chance of stopping it. Guys like Mike Vernon and Curtis Joseph certainly didn't stop 93% of the shots they faced but they seemed to elevate in OT and couldn't be beat. (and certainly not in the first 5 mins of OT twice in a series)

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04-20-2012, 11:29 AM
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Can't expect to win playoff games on 1-2 goals. You're foolish if you think these losses rest solely on Hank's shoulders. I'm not saying some of the goals that went in weren't able to be saved, but look at all the near-goals we've had that Anderson had no idea about or just flat out missed. These games could have gone either way, they got a few lucky bounces and have capitalized while we think cycling the puck down low is the only gameplan available.

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04-20-2012, 11:30 AM
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Not an OT game? Hanks fantastic. All I'm saying is he doesn't have that extra edge that some goaltenders have when it matters most. He's consistent no matter the situation. If a shot is taken, he has a 93% chance of stopping it. Guys like Mike Vernon and Curtis Joseph certainly didn't stop 93% of the shots they faced but they seemed to elevate in OT and couldn't be beat. (and certainly not in the first 5 mins of OT twice in a series)
when your goalie stops 95% of the shots in a game, he shouldn't worry about going into OT, The rest of his team should man the **** up and score a few goals and win in regulation.

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04-20-2012, 11:47 AM
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If Hank wants to be known as the best goaltender in a league, he has to at least steal one playoff series. He has yet to do this. I hope he can prove me wrong with the rest of this series.

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04-20-2012, 11:55 AM
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when your goalie stops 95% of the shots in a game, he shouldn't worry about going into OT, The rest of his team should man the **** up and score a few goals and win in regulation.
This.

I don't understand the theory of "step it up Hank." He clearly has already. His save% is incredible, he's making absolutely ridiculous saves every game. We can't expect to go far scoring 2 goals a game. If this team wants to get out of the first round and beyond they need to start putting the puck in the net. 7 out of 9 goals coming from Cally, Boyle, and Stralman is absolutely unacceptable. Dubinsky, Stepan, AA, etc, need to step their game up and start scoring.

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At some point, it's incumbent upon the team to score in OT. Hank can't stop pucks AND score goals.

Would he like the Turris goal back? Probably. But he hasn't let in any really bad OT 'softies' like say, Corey Crawford has in Chicago.

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04-20-2012, 12:17 PM
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What bothers me the most about this whole topic is just how little offensive support Hank has gotten
Since he’s been here. I’m confident that with the arrival Krieder and some big offseason offensive signings
That this topic will be a distant memory.

We have good young defense corps that will only improve next year. It’s time to get a real offense with a working powerplay in front of lundqvist. Once this happens, we’ll truly be contenders for years to come.

Hank has done his part in this series. The senators would be polishing their golf clubs already if:

We didn’t play so passive in game 2

We did our job on the PP in game 4a

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04-20-2012, 12:21 PM
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Can't believe what people here are saying. Look around and see which goalie you'd prefer have lol.. I am not a homer, but I was at game 3 and seriously without Lundqvist you don't win this game. He made a lot of huge saves in the game and even Konopka ran into him a couple of times trying to make him fall, and he still managed to make the saves. He was caught too deep on the Turris shot but you could argue Stralman screened the play and your team only scored 2 goals, he still made some huge saves. You have some bipolar fans

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Can't believe what people here are saying. Look around and see which goalie you'd prefer have lol.. I am not a homer, but I was at game 3 and seriously without Lundqvist you don't win this game. He made a lot of huge saves in the game and even Konopka ran into him a couple of times trying to make him fall, and he still managed to make the saves. He was caught too deep on the Turris shot but you could argue Stralman screened the play and your team only scored 2 goals, he still made some huge saves. You have some bipolar fans
yes, yes we do

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04-20-2012, 12:31 PM
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The Rangers have to get back to playing the way they played in the first game of the series.

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I didn't say he sucked I said he lost 2 very winnable games. His rebound control is awful so far watch how many pucks he kick directly back into the slot how many puck has he dropped without catching it clean . He is good and game 3 showed that but he can't lose a series to Anderson and ever be taken serious .. Hank is the king of ny because for years he was the star now the team is legit and he needs to elevavate his game
someone just put a muzzle on him... for the love of all things holy...Ive got socks with more common sense.

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04-20-2012, 01:50 PM
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Blaming Hank is ridiculous. The team in front of him needs to step it up and score some goals. Plain and simple.

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04-20-2012, 02:01 PM
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is game 5 the biggest game of lundqvist's career? he played a game 7 a couple years ago but that team wasnt winning a cup even if they won that game. game 5 in the 2nd round against buffalo in 2007 is up there, when drury tied it with 7 seconds or whatever. but this is the first year hes played on a team thats 1 of the favorites to win the cup. hes starting to take a little heat for his weak playoff ot goaltending. im saying yes, this is the biggest game of his career, but hopefully theres bigger ones still to come this spring.

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04-20-2012, 02:14 PM
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Can we call out weak thread-starters who probably don't deserve to be Rangers fans?

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04-20-2012, 02:16 PM
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*Sigh* Seriously with this thread?



He has NOT been outplayed in this series so far. [B]Anderson is just better than people give him credit for[/B
I find it halarious how little respect Anderson gets in this league. So many people are probably just looking at the stats column and figure that a .914 save% is nothing special compared to Hanks .930

Most people also probably dont know just how bad the sens played at the beginning of the year. I think he was in the .880's or lower for the first 20 games and it wasnt that he was playing bad, it was the 10 breakaways and 20 2-1's each game that our defence was giving up. Anderson may not have earned as much respect and Hank since he hasnt put up the same numbers (mostly due to being with chicago - before they were good, florida and colorado) but he has been our most consistant player since arriving at the end of last year.

Never the less Lundquist is amazing and I have no idea who would think otherwise. The turris shot was a crazy snipe (i was there) and I was also at the 3rd game where I took a tantrum afterwards because of our inability to get one past hank with the amount of chances we had. Its 2-2 and both goalies have played excellent hockey. The rest of the players not so much (sens included)

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Are you kidding me? Have you seen Luongo, MAF, Universe all self destruct? And don't give me any **** about how their playing better offensive teams either... Ottawa has some pretty good depth in their Forwards, and even Fat Marty was pulled out of a game.... AGAINST THE ****ING PANTHERS. Can we at least wait to lose a series before we have these kinds of threads?

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Can we call out weak thread-starters who probably don't deserve to be Rangers fans?
this is the smartest thing said in this thread. well done.

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I think we're done here.

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