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12-08-2004, 06:50 PM
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If you want to picture Zach Parise's game, think of a mix between Scott Gomez and Mike York. He has Gomez's vision and skating, but York's effort and work ethic. Many Devils fans from NJdevs.com (myself included) expect something around 20-25 goals and 40-50 assists from Zach when he fully develops.

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12-08-2004, 06:52 PM
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If you want to picture Zach Parise's game, think of a mix between Scott Gomez and Mike York. He has Gomez's vision and skating, but York's effort and work ethic. Many Devils fans from NJdevs.com (myself included) expect something around 20-25 goals and 40-50 assists from Zach when he fully develops.
Now you are just overdoing it. A player like that would mean something like Sakic.

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12-08-2004, 07:00 PM
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Now you are just overdoing it. A player like that would mean something like Sakic.
Last I heard Sakic was more than a 25 goal scorer. I highly doubt that Parise will ever reach 100 points like Sakic has during his career.

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12-08-2004, 07:03 PM
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Last I heard Sakic was more than a 25 goal scorer. I highly doubt that Parise will ever reach 100 points like Sakic has during his career.
So you think with more speed and more hockey sense York wouldn't get more then 25 goals?

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12-08-2004, 07:13 PM
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So you think with more speed and more hockey sense York wouldn't get more then 25 goals?
I think you missed the point, but if you put York and Gomez together, I'm still not sure that player is on the same level as Sakic. Also Gomez doesn't have that blazing speed that some other players have (Kovalchuk, St. Louis, Hossa, Gagne) in my eyes, not that he is slow by any means.

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12-08-2004, 07:19 PM
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I think you missed the point, but if you put York and Gomez together, I'm still not sure that player is on the same level as Sakic. Also Gomez doesn't have that blazing speed that some other players have (Kovalchuk, St. Louis, Hossa, Gagne) in my eyes, not that he is slow by any means.
You have about an inch of gloss over your eyes then. Gomez IMO is 3rd fastest player on the devils behind Niedermayer and Friesen. He would be fastest on many teams. If Gomez had Yorks scoring and Yorks defensive skills he would be a player as effective as Sakic.

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12-08-2004, 07:32 PM
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You have about an inch of gloss over your eyes then. Gomez IMO is 3rd fastest player on the devils behind Niedermayer and Friesen. He would be fastest on many teams. If Gomez had Yorks scoring and Yorks defensive skills he would be a player as effective as Sakic.
Can you honestly tell me that Gomez is faster than the three I mentioned earlier? I also believe Gomez is the 4th fastest behind Niedermayer, Friesen and Elias. He has great acceleration, and can cut through the neutral zone like butter, however I don't think his top is as fast as the elite skaters in the league. His ability to change direction quickly and maintain his speed disguises that.

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12-08-2004, 07:37 PM
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Can you honestly tell me that Gomez is faster than the three I mentioned earlier? I also believe Gomez is the 4th fastest behind Niedermayer, Friesen and Elias. He has great acceleration, and can cut through the neutral zone like butter, however I don't think his top is as fast as the elite skaters in the league. His ability to change direction quickly and maintain his speed disguises that.
Elias doesn't have great speed. He is more strong then fast.

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12-08-2004, 08:17 PM
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Meh, Parise with a calm 4 assists tonight. Maybe one of his best games ever. Its going to OT........Suglobov with 4 pointd also (2 goals)

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12-08-2004, 11:57 PM
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Dean Mcammond had 3 points as well. Shame about the shootout loss though.

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12-09-2004, 12:25 AM
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Dean Mcammond had 3 points as well. Shame about the shootout loss though.
Agreed, it was one hell of a comeback then the penalty in OT kind of killed the atmosphere and then the SO just licks.....both teams battled hard and one comes away the loser.

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12-09-2004, 01:10 AM
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Zach Parise is a great player, not a future superstar, but he'll be good.

Having said that... he is overhyped.

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12-09-2004, 01:17 AM
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Zach Parise is a great player, not a future superstar, but he'll be good.

Having said that... he is overhyped.
Hardly....people could care less about him now he is in Albany.

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12-09-2004, 02:28 AM
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Hardly....people could care less about him now he is in Albany.
Hype is attached to his name, not where he's playing.

Since the draft, he's been overhyped.

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12-09-2004, 03:06 AM
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the only real governator is arnold!
so don`t use arnolds nickname for parise.
-> vanek is and will be the only GOVERNATOR on ice!


No.

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12-09-2004, 05:45 AM
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Since the draft, he's been overhyped.

well, I mean he DID win the MVP in last years world junior...

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For me Zach is similar to Joe Sakic, but less productive (80 points should be his max output).

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12-09-2004, 07:16 AM
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I like the Modano comparison (though I still dislike Modano...) that I've heard.

80ish points a year, leader, defensive player.

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I like the Modano comparison (though I still dislike Modano...) that I've heard.

80ish points a year, leader, defensive player.
I was thinking more like 110 points a year, Selke, Hart, and Vezina.

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12-09-2004, 08:23 AM
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I was thinking more like 110 points a year, Selke, Hart, and Vezina.

Nah man, 110 pts would be his off year in just 30 games. He's going to be a 300pt man every year if he is healthy.


He'll win the Selke, Hart, Vezina, Richard, Pearson, Lady Byng also. He'll also have a +/- of 350+ each year. He'll surpass Gretzky in 10 seasons and will rewrite the history books in every category except fighting.

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well, I mean he DID win the MVP in last years world junior...
He won it because he was amazing in the round robin games... vs. Finland and Canada he was invisible... the final 2 games.

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Zach Parise is a great player, not a future superstar, but he'll be good.

Having said that... he is overhyped.

I would agree with this. He'll be a 1st line center that puts out around 70 pts a year (in a good year), and frankly, it's about time the U.S. starts churning more of those types of players out.


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I would agree with this. He'll be a 1st line center that puts up a point per game, and frankly, it's about time the U.S. starts churning more of those types of players out.
Point per game in today's NHL is top-5 scoring.

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12-09-2004, 09:11 AM
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This thread's not helping... to say he has the potential to be a really good player is one thing... to say he'll finish with a point a game is another. There are elite hockey players in today's NHL that didn't hit 82 points last year.

My prediction: consistent 50-70 point player.

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Point per game in today's NHL is top-5 scoring.

Fair enough. I revised my projection.

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