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Top 10 based purely on offensive potential

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04-22-2012, 02:03 PM
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T1. Yakupov (1st liner/PP1)
T1. Teravainen (1st liner/PP1/PK1)
3. Forsberg (1st liner/PP2/PK1 or 2)
4. Galchenyuk (1st liner/PP2)
5. Grigorenko (1st line/PP2)

You guys should've honestly seen how Jokerit powerplay did work when Eaves and Teravainen was paired together.
Grigorenko is a 1st power play unit player.

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04-22-2012, 02:30 PM
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who is better Zibanejad or Forsberg?

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04-22-2012, 02:35 PM
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yakupov is better offensively than nugent hopkins (scout consensus), grigorenko trumps couturier in terms of offensive potential but also gets a slight edge over huberdeau's offense. Galchenyuk trumps couturier in terms of offense and is about as even with huberdeau. forsberg is also a lot more talented offensively than landeskog is.
wow !

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04-22-2012, 02:46 PM
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Give me a 75 points first line center who will be the best shutdown center and PK'er in the league (Couturier), or a pure power forward that are very hard to find (Landeskog) before Yakupov.
My god......

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04-22-2012, 02:48 PM
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My god......
What's wrong with that?

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04-22-2012, 02:49 PM
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wow !
Wow!

Look at these people overrating landeskog. He is a great player and one of my favorites. I have his rangers jersey and I already ordered an Avs one but holy ****. Landeskog isn't an offensive powerhouse. He will be a great 30 goal power forward probably but in terms of offensive talent Forsberg has more potential.

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04-22-2012, 02:51 PM
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What's wrong with that?
Even the biggest homer of a flyer fan would trade couts for yakupov in a heart beat. Same goes for the Avs trading landeskog for yakupov. Nail is an unreal talent.

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04-22-2012, 02:54 PM
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Even the biggest homer of a flyer fan would trade couts for yakupov in a heart beat. Same goes for the Avs trading landeskog for yakupov. Nail is an unreal talent.
Couturier is the real deal. Amazingly hard to find player like him. You'll win playoff games with players like him, same can be said for Landeskog.

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04-22-2012, 02:59 PM
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Couturier is the real deal. Amazingly hard to find player like him. You'll win playoff games with players like him, same can be said for Landeskog.
Who says you can't with Yakupov?Who says you can't with Grigorenko? Galchenyuk? Forsberg?

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04-22-2012, 03:04 PM
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Who says you can't with Yakupov?Who says you can't with Grigorenko? Galchenyuk? Forsberg?
I'm not saying you can't win with these players. You can win too with these players. But Couturier and Landeskog are prototypical playoff players.

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04-22-2012, 03:14 PM
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Yakupov >>> EVERYBODY

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04-22-2012, 03:16 PM
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I'm not saying you can't win with these players. You can win too with these players. But Couturier and Landeskog are prototypical playoff players.
Ehh that doesn't really mean much. Giroux isn't a prototypical playoff player and neither is Malkin who had a dominant performance in the playoffs awhile back. Whatever though.

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04-22-2012, 03:18 PM
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Ehh that doesn't really mean much. Giroux isn't a prototypical playoff player and neither is Malkin who had a dominant performance in the playoffs awhile back. Whatever though.
Yeah, you're right on that.

Maybe it's just because I'm very high on Couturier, since a very long time. I just like his game, he's the complete package.

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04-22-2012, 03:20 PM
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I actually think that one of Galchenyuk or Grigorenko could have higher offensive upside than Yakupov. I won't say it's for certain obviously due to a number of factors including Galchenyuk's missed season, Grigorenko's work ethic, the teams that draft each, etc.

However, I wouldn't say it's unlikely given their natural positions at center and size. It's like comparing Toews to Kane.

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04-22-2012, 03:29 PM
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I'd personally put Rielly and Ceci on this list. Both guys could put up ~50 points in the NHL down the road. Guys like Gaunce and Faksa probably have that kind of upside as forwards.

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04-22-2012, 05:45 PM
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Who says you can't with Yakupov?
Yakupov has been a high scorer with Sarnia for two seasons and his total playoff scoring is 6 games, 2 goals 3 assists contributing to 2 wins and 4 losses.
In the WJC he didnt score a single goal!

I'm not seeing a superstar!

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04-22-2012, 06:14 PM
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Funny how this is the 2008 draft based purely on offense:

1. Steven Stamkos
2. Erik Karlsson. nuff said.

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04-22-2012, 06:36 PM
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Give me a big 75 points first line center who will be the best shutdown center and PK'er in the league (Couturier), or a big pure power forward that are very hard to find (Landeskog) before Yakupov.
I'm sorry but Landeskog has no where near the offensive potential that yakupov has. Will he be a better 2 way player?Yes he will.

But comparing Yakupov and Landeskog by offensive potential, Is like comparing a Beagle, to a greyhound.

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04-22-2012, 06:40 PM
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Yakupov has been a high scorer with Sarnia for two seasons and his total playoff scoring is 6 games, 2 goals 3 assists contributing to 2 wins and 4 losses.
In the WJC he didnt score a single goal!

I'm not seeing a superstar!
Did you even watch the tournament? Yakupov was a force to reckon with. He was feeding kuznetskov the whole tourney, Putting up 9 points as an 18 year old.

Also to your point of yakupov being bad in the playoffs. he was only getting 9 minutes a night, and his team (outside of him and galy), was so bad.

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04-22-2012, 06:47 PM
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Give me a big 75 points first line center who will be the best shutdown center and PK'er in the league (Couturier), or a big pure power forward that are very hard to find (Landeskog) before Yakupov.
75 points? Best shutdown center and PKer? First line center? That sure as hell aint Couturier.

I'll take Yakupov's 50 goals and 100 points over either of those guys.

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04-22-2012, 06:49 PM
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If it were based mostly on offensive potential Russians Prokhorkin, Gusev and Slepshev would be in top 10 imo

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04-23-2012, 10:50 AM
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I think guys like Dumba, Rielly and Murray could be talked about in the 8-10 spot if you are talking about future offensive potential. 40 point defenders have pretty good value over 50-60 point FW's.

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04-23-2012, 01:48 PM
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75 points? Best shutdown center and PKer? First line center? That sure as hell aint Couturier.

I'll take Yakupov's 50 goals and 100 points over either of those guys.
He's shutdowning the best player in the world in the playoffs as a 19 years old. He's playing top PK minutes too.

And yeah he has 75 points and first line center potential.

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04-23-2012, 02:02 PM
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Wow, you're underrating Couturier.

Personally, call me carzy, but give me these players in that order:

Nugent-Hopkins
Couturier
Landeskog
Yakupov
Grigorenko/Galchenyuk/Forsberg/Huberdeau
You're crazy. As for point totals:

Yakupov
RNH
Galchenyuk
Huberdeau
Grigorenko
Strome
Landeskog
Forsberg

Lando's definitely rookie of the year, but his game is more 30-30 than the 25-45 RNH was on pace for, or the 30-60 a couple of those guys could attain some day.

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04-23-2012, 02:31 PM
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On offensive potential alone I thought I'd see Tanner Pearson in some peoples top 10.

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