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05-10-2012, 03:34 PM
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I would guess their thinking may be that those areas are "over fished" and due to their draft selection order they have to try and be a bit creative.
I agree that that is likely. But, they still need to go to those "over fished" programs so that they can selectively trade up or be ready when they happen onto a higher pick (trade for a first that ends up higher than expected or have unexpected season results). The other reason is that they are rapidly approaching the rebuild points. If they want to do a massive reconstruction on the current roster, it is best to know when to go for that "failing" season when the right guys are available in the draft. Effectively, the two year look ahead on the draft.

BTW, if any area is overfished, it is the OHL.

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Sharks get 16 if the Caps win, and 17 if they lose.
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Sharks get 16 if the Caps win, and 17 if they lose.
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You have to keep in mind this is a very weak draft. Which means not only are lower picks more of a gamble (and likely farther from NHL ready) but that also means the draft picks are less valuable in general and trading for picks or moving up may be less expensive than most years. With the players the Sharks have to move, and their strong drafting history, they need some high skill players and this may be a great opportunity to pull some needles from the haystack of the first round.
The more picks you have, the more likely you are in finding a high skill player.

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I don't understand why the Caps would pick ahead of the Sharks. The Caps made it to the 2nd round of the playoffs...

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I don't understand why the Caps would pick ahead of the Sharks. The Caps made it to the 2nd round of the playoffs...
Because losing in the 1st or 2nd round of the playoffs has no impact on your draft placement...all teams eliminated in those rounds pick by regular season points after the non-qualifying teams.

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Like Ceci. Would make me feel more.comfortable about eventually replacing Boyler. That said I want wingers.

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I don't understand why the Caps would pick ahead of the Sharks. The Caps made it to the 2nd round of the playoffs...
Draft position for playoff teams basically go: Cup winner, Cup finalist, conference finalist with more points, conference finalist with less points, division winners organized by point totals, and then the rest.

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Sharks officially pick 17th in the draft.

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Draft position for playoff teams basically go: Cup winner, Cup finalist, conference finalist with more points, conference finalist with less points, division winners organized by point totals, and then the rest.
Thanks Pinkfloyd, didn't know that. Not a big fan of this ranking process. The NFL does it better. Playoff teams are ranked according to each round they lost. And your regular season record dictates where you get ranked with the other teams that lost in your round. Pretty simple.

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Craig Button's new top 60 from TSN.
I bolded some of the players that people have shown interest in.

1. Nail Yakupov
2. Mathew Dumba
3. Morgan Rielly
4. Alex Galchenyuk
5. Teuvo Teravainen
6. Griffin Reinhart
7. Filip Forsberg
8. Malcolm Subban
9. Matt Finn
10. Hampus Lindholm
11. Cody Ceci
12. Ryan Murray
13. Jacob Trouba
14. Mark Jankowski
15. Andrei Vasilevski
16. Zemgus Girgensons
17. Radek Faksa
18. Derrick Pouliot
19. Ludvig Bystrom
20. Mikhail Grigorenko
21. Tom Wilson
22. Tomas Hertl
23. Pontus Aberg
24. Michael Matheson
25. Scott Laughton
26. Gemel Smith
27. Brady Skeji
28. Sebastien Collberg
29. Phillip Di Giuseppe
30. Olli Maatta
31. Oscar Dansk
32. Mikko Vainonen
33. Slater Koekkoek
34. Adam Pelech
35. Jarrod Maidens
36. Devin Shore
37. Brendan Gaunce
38. Brady Vail
39. Esa Lindell
40. Patrick Sieloff
41. Damon Severson
42. Tanner Pearson
43. Matthew Murray
44. Stefan Matteau
45. Vyacheslav Osnovin
46. Lukas Sutter
47. Mike Winther
48. Ville Pokka
49. Christoval Nieves
50. Michael Houser
51. Dalton Thrower
52. Tomas Hyka
53. Brandon Whitney
54. Henrik Samuelsson
55. Martin Frk
56. Andreas Athanasiou
57. Jon Gillies
58. Jordan Schmaltz
59. Anton Slepyshev
60. Dillon Fournier

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05-15-2012, 01:29 PM
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Did they drop Grigorenko because of the KHL ?

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Did they drop Grigorenko because of the KHL ?
Didn't really say, here's the article.

http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=396010

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Geez, if Ryan Murray drops to #12, I'd definitely give up the assets to move up five spots. He fits a need perfectly, and he's a sure bet to be at worst a #4, most likely a #2, and possibly a #1. He's a LHD with flawless defense and decent offensive instincts.

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Did they drop Grigorenko because of the KHL ?
Yup.

Button's list is pretty "out there", but he definitely knows his stuff. It would be ****ing amazing if Collberg was there for us at 17. Also, I wouldn't mind grabbing Tanner Pearson or Stefan Matteau at 55. It's exciting that we actually have decent picks this year

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05-15-2012, 01:54 PM
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Yup.

Button's list is pretty "out there", but he definitely knows his stuff. It would be ****ing amazing if Collberg was there for us at 17. Also, I wouldn't mind grabbing Tanner Pearson or Stefan Matteau at 55. It's exciting that we actually have decent picks this year
Do we have a third round pick?

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Do we have a third round pick?
Not as far as I can tell. Looks like we used it to get Nieto.

http://prosportstransactions.com/hoc...Years/2012.htm

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05-15-2012, 02:11 PM
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Not as far as I can tell. Looks like we used it to get Nieto.

http://prosportstransactions.com/hoc...Years/2012.htm
Damnit. I think we need to look into grabbing a mid third-rounder. Why?





Zach Stepan, of course.

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05-15-2012, 02:13 PM
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Yup.

Button's list is pretty "out there", but he definitely knows his stuff. It would be ****ing amazing if Collberg was there for us at 17. Also, I wouldn't mind grabbing Tanner Pearson or Stefan Matteau at 55. It's exciting that we actually have decent picks this year
I'm not super interested in a guy who was passed over completely (Pearson). Especially not that high in the draft.

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Geez, if Ryan Murray drops to #12, I'd definitely give up the assets to move up five spots. He fits a need perfectly, and he's a sure bet to be at worst a #4, most likely a #2, and possibly a #1. He's a LHD with flawless defense and decent offensive instincts.
I still don't think we should be trading up.

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05-15-2012, 02:16 PM
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I still don't think we should be trading up.
While I agree, if a guy like that falls to within 5 picks of us, we have to at least consider it.

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While I agree, if a guy like that falls to within 5 picks of us, we have to at least consider it.
Maybe if we traded Murray and got an extra pick back.

Re: Zach Stepan // I'd probably still take him in round 3 , but I'm not as sold on him anymore. He's playing for a BCHL team next year and then Ohio State in 13-14. Red flag that he's not ready for college hockey.

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Maybe if we traded Murray and got an extra pick back.

Re: Zach Stepan // I'd probably still take him in round 3 , but I'm not as sold on him anymore. He's playing for a BCHL team next year and then Ohio State in 13-14. Red flag that he's not ready for college hockey.
Yeah, the more I read about him the less I think he'll be anything close to his cousin.

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Collberg = Zackrisson 2.0?

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Radek Faksa anyone? hmm maybe we should get Collberg. Its too bad we traded the 2nd away, we could ahve had gaunce=/

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