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06-20-2012, 09:37 AM
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Moving up does not make sense from DW's policy about getting the BPA. But if he already has someone specific in mind then he may just do it to get that one person.
Wilson had traded up in the draft several times to get the guy the org. thinks is the BPA. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he does it again this year.

Though, considering this draft class I also wouldn't be at all surprised if he traded the first round pick for multiple later picks.

It's pretty hard to get a handle (more than usual) on how this draft might play out.

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06-20-2012, 09:44 AM
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Gaunce is not Getzlaf-lite in anyway whatsoever. He's more like a bigger Pavelski without the offense. Most likely going to be a 3rd liner. Very poor skating.
Pavelski is a poor skater.

Gaunce should be our guy if we take a forward. But I am leaning more and more towards Hampus Lindholm

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Pavelski is a poor skater.

Gaunce should be our guy if we take a forward. But I am leaning more and more towards Hampus Lindholm
I know. What part of 'bigger Pavelski without the offense' implied differently? I want absolutely no part of Gaunce.

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Spoke to my guy in the Sharks org specifically about the draft, and about Grigorenko. Sharks feel that he will be taken top-10; projected to be taken by Montreal.

He was of the opinion that SJ would definitely draft him at 17. Big, two-way center; Sharks love that. A potential JT replacement down the line; the all-around game would make up for the fact that he is rumored to be lazy. DW is often worried about commitment to the NHL, but Grigorenko has already come to the CHL; SJ also drafted Kaspar (also another player with laziness issues) because he had come here. He pointed out that SJ drafted Bernier, another player with off-ice issues, and that they knew that Wishart and Setoguchi were not perfect when they drafted them.

Guy also liked Steffan Matteau, a winger from Michigan whose name he forgot (I am guessing it is Di Guiespie), and Damon Severson. But he has no influence over who gets drafted.

This guy works pretty intimately with the team when it comes to the draft, so I weight his words pretty heavily.

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06-20-2012, 12:28 PM
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http://sharks.nhl.com/club/blogpost.htm?id=10145

Rusanowsky's take on draft.

Pulled out a few familiar names (Matteau, McGinn).

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06-20-2012, 12:35 PM
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Spoke to my guy in the Sharks org specifically about the draft, and about Grigorenko. Sharks feel that he will be taken top-10; projected to be taken by Montreal.

He was of the opinion that SJ would definitely draft him at 17. Big, two-way center; Sharks love that. A potential JT replacement down the line; the all-around game would make up for the fact that he is rumored to be lazy. DW is often worried about commitment to the NHL, but Grigorenko has already come to the CHL; SJ also drafted Kaspar (also another player with laziness issues) because he had come here. He pointed out that SJ drafted Bernier, another player with off-ice issues, and that they knew that Wishart and Setoguchi were not perfect when they drafted them.

Guy also liked Steffan Matteau, a winger from Michigan whose name he forgot (I am guessing it is Di Guiespie), and Damon Severson. But he has no influence over who gets drafted.

This guy works pretty intimately with the team when it comes to the draft, so I weight his words pretty heavily.
Did he have any idea on the possibility of trading up or down?

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Funnily enough, the guy I see Grigs compared to the most is Joe Thornton.

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Did he have any idea on the possibility of trading up or down?
No. But he mentioned a few years ago that DW favors trading up.

A couple of years ago he mentioned the philosophy change between DL's and DW's staffs. DL felt that there was a lot of talent in the draft, with whether or not the talent manifests being dependent on variance; he was always prone to trading down. DW feels that there is simply less talent in the draft; you are better off getting 5 players you really like than 10 you had to settle for.

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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/why-goa...0755--nhl.html

THN article: Goalies, the ultimate asset.

Talks about the Sharks history of drafts, using goalies to get picks, etc.

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06-20-2012, 05:32 PM
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Spoke to my guy in the Sharks org specifically about the draft, and about Grigorenko. Sharks feel that he will be taken top-10; projected to be taken by Montreal.

He was of the opinion that SJ would definitely draft him at 17. Big, two-way center; Sharks love that. A potential JT replacement down the line; the all-around game would make up for the fact that he is rumored to be lazy. DW is often worried about commitment to the NHL, but Grigorenko has already come to the CHL; SJ also drafted Kaspar (also another player with laziness issues) because he had come here. He pointed out that SJ drafted Bernier, another player with off-ice issues, and that they knew that Wishart and Setoguchi were not perfect when they drafted them.

Guy also liked Steffan Matteau, a winger from Michigan whose name he forgot (I am guessing it is Di Guiespie), and Damon Severson. But he has no influence over who gets drafted.

This guy works pretty intimately with the team when it comes to the draft, so I weight his words pretty heavily.
I would love it if Di Giuseppe gets drafted by the Sharks. Has high end scoring ability with great speed in the neutral zone. My wish list for the Sharks 17th pick is Lindholm or Di Giuseppe.

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http://www.nhl.com/ice/news.htm?id=635266

NHL article on some of the players (including th Sharks Niemi and Boyle) who were undrafted.

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I would love it if Di Giuseppe gets drafted by the Sharks. Has high end scoring ability with great speed in the neutral zone. My wish list for the Sharks 17th pick is Lindholm or Di Giuseppe.
I am a Di Giuseppe fan as well. He's fast, physical, and is a great finisher. Lindholm is one of the best skaters in the draft, I'm interested in him. But I think our #1 target should be Collberg.

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I am a Di Giuseppe fan as well. He's fast, physical, and is a great finisher. Lindholm is one of the best skaters in the draft, I'm interested in him. But I think our #1 target should be Collberg.
Collberg has been dropping in the rankings. What do you like about him?

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06-21-2012, 08:24 AM
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Collberg has been dropping in the rankings. What do you like about him?
He has good speed, good hands and is a winger. Should fit our needs well.

I actually have seen him being taken by the Caps at #16 in a few drafts. Would not be surprised if DW does end up moving up after all.

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He has good speed, good hands and is a winger. Should fit our needs well.

I actually have seen him being taken by the Caps at #16 in a few drafts. Would not be surprised if DW does end up moving up after all.
The Sharks shouldn't be drafting by position if they use their 1st round pick...I'd be really happy if they take Collberg but they need to take the BPA regardess of what position they play.

Regarding Collberg "falling" (which he's really not, seen him ranked as high as 11), scouts value skills / attributes differently. Button / MacKenzie seem to value size a bit more than others, a guy like Corey Pronman doesn't seem to really take that into consideration (unless the player is pretty small).

In my opinion, the two things the Sharks should value the most in the first round this year are puck skills and hockey sense.

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The Sharks shouldn't be drafting by position if they use their 1st round pick...I'd be really happy if they take Collberg but they need to take the BPA regardess of what position they play.

Regarding Collberg "falling" (which he's really not, seen him ranked as high as 11), scouts value skills / attributes differently. Button / MacKenzie seem to value size a bit more than others, a guy like Corey Pronman doesn't seem to really take that into consideration (unless the player is pretty small).

In my opinion, the two things the Sharks should value the most in the first round this year are puck skills and hockey sense.
I would put skating right up there too. They cannot afford to draft anymore poor skaters.

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Can we draft Max Iafrate? What is he like a 3rd or 4th rounder? The kid is big. And who doesnt like that bloodline??

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I agree about drafting Max. I mentioned it somewhere here a month or so ago. If he's half of what dad was, I'm for it!!

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Spoke to my guy in the Sharks org specifically about the draft, and about Grigorenko. Sharks feel that he will be taken top-10; projected to be taken by Montreal.

He was of the opinion that SJ would definitely draft him at 17. Big, two-way center; Sharks love that. A potential JT replacement down the line; the all-around game would make up for the fact that he is rumored to be lazy. DW is often worried about commitment to the NHL, but Grigorenko has already come to the CHL; SJ also drafted Kaspar (also another player with laziness issues) because he had come here. He pointed out that SJ drafted Bernier, another player with off-ice issues, and that they knew that Wishart and Setoguchi were not perfect when they drafted them.

Guy also liked Steffan Matteau, a winger from Michigan whose name he forgot (I am guessing it is Di Guiespie), and Damon Severson. But he has no influence over who gets drafted.

This guy works pretty intimately with the team when it comes to the draft, so I weight his words pretty heavily.
That sounds like Zemgus Girgensons but I think they might need to trade up for him.

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I agree about drafting Max. I mentioned it somewhere here a month or so ago. If he's half of what dad was, I'm for it!!
Iafrate? Really?

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I agree about drafting Max. I mentioned it somewhere here a month or so ago. If he's half of what dad was, I'm for it!!
Especially if he's the half that doesn't include the Planet's knees or back

Is he a similar type player to his dad?

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Max is already 6'2" 220 lbs and he is still only 18. One would have to think that Big Al has taught his son that booming slap shot... He is ranked #70 North American skaters.

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Max is already 6'2" 220 lbs and he is still only 18. One would have to think that Big Al has taught his son that booming slap shot... He is ranked #70 North American skaters.
With that much size, how's his mobility?

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Write up on Max Iafrate...

http://theprospectblog.com/2012/05/1...t-max-iafrate/

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