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04-23-2012, 01:34 AM
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Hopefully he and Malkin realize the team is much better when they have additional cap space so they do not take huge raises. Both with the same contract would give room to keep Letang/Staal

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04-23-2012, 02:32 AM
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give him whatever makes him happy. i hope by next season he will be back to normal

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04-23-2012, 02:47 AM
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I guess he won't change his 8.7 cap hit ...

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04-23-2012, 06:22 AM
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Well if they trade or let go of some of the already mentioned players they will have about 10 or 11 mil free. Sid 10 million for 6-7 yrs is what I am thinking, Staal will probably be about 6.5 for 5 yrs. that is only about 3 mil more.
Can we please look for a player that is over 6 feet tall, we seem to get smothered in playoffs.

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04-23-2012, 07:21 AM
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its pretty much up to him. He could ask for a contract with a blank for money and a blank for years and he'd get it. hopefully he takes less than he is worth because he is worth a heck of a lot.

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04-23-2012, 07:58 AM
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Does anyone really think he'll take anything other than a 8.7M cap hit?

Honestly people.

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04-23-2012, 08:37 AM
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I hope he just extends. The players association might have some input there though.

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04-23-2012, 08:44 AM
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Nhlpa will demand he take some sort of raise

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04-23-2012, 08:49 AM
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...but its more about being able to win. I don't see Sid or Geno being overly greedy.

Helps when you actually...you know...win

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04-23-2012, 08:57 AM
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I hope when negotiating a sweetheart deal, Crosby says to Shero, "I'll take a discount so long as the money I'm leaving on the table doesn't go toward you signing fifty ****ing grinders instead."
This post wins the thread.

In all seriousness, basically whatever he wants is the answer. I can't see him saying it but if it was me and I had his skill set, I'd tell them that I'll take a paycut if we bring in a winger who can skate with me for the rest of my career.

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5 years, $50M.

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Does anyone really think he'll take anything other than a 8.7M cap hit?

Honestly people.
Plus I think everyone knows how superstitious Sid is and we all know it.

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04-23-2012, 09:34 AM
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5 years, $50M.
This is about what he should get. If he survives that contract relatively injury free, then they offer him the front or end loaded contract and he retires a Pen. At 31 years old that is not unreasonable.

And as to the insurance issue, a former GM was on HomeIce recently and said Crosby is uninsurable with his injury history. He said if it was a few years from now, maybe, but it is too soon. In the case of injury the Pens can LTIR to get around cap issues, but the organization will be on the hook for the money owed.

That is why the GM suggested the shorter contract for the high dollar amount, it is a sign of good faith from both sides. He also mentioned that Brisson can be a real ball buster, and he said this from personal knowledge.

I will try to find a link and post if I can.

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04-23-2012, 09:37 AM
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What about him taking a contract with incentives that protects the Pens on the cap if something happens.

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04-23-2012, 09:42 AM
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When was his "significant concussion history"? He had one, maybe two concussions during his entire career. He also had a pretty serious neck injury that once found/fixed, solved the problem pretty quickly. He is no more/less likely to be injured than any other player that plays the minutes he does.
Is this a joke? You know..the concussions and concussion like symptoms that pretty much kept him out for well over a year.

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What about him taking a contract with incentives that protects the Pens on the cap if something happens.
Not allowed unfortunately.

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Is this a joke? You know..the concussions and concussion like symptoms that pretty much kept him out for well over a year.
That's not a history, it was one incident (or maybe two that led to a big one), he's not injury prone because of that. Now if the same thing happens again, then I'm worried.

That said, if I had to bet I'd say 8.7 cap hit again. Which when you calculate it with the cap increase since he signed his last deal, is actually a pretty big paycut relative to the cap.

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04-23-2012, 10:13 AM
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20 years, 5 million per year

why not circumvent a little? a bunch of other teams do it

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Nhlpa will demand he take some sort of raise
They also had a **** fit when Lemieux took I believe league average when he came back.

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04-23-2012, 10:43 AM
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Is this a joke? You know..the concussions and concussion like symptoms that pretty much kept him out for well over a year.
Not a joke. Concussion SYMPTOMS kept him out for well over a year. The symptoms happened to be caused by a neck injury.

Just a few months back I had symptoms of a heart attack. I went to the doctor and have acid reflux. They treated it and now I feel great. That doesn't mean I have a history of heart failure.

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04-23-2012, 10:56 AM
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Here's a couple of articles worth reading about insuring NHL players:

Insurance Limits Influence Contracts: Deals More Than Seven Years May Be Prohibitive To Team Finances
(From 2008)

Concussions could ruin NHL teams if insurers pull coverage

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04-23-2012, 11:00 AM
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Nhlpa will demand he take some sort of raise
This because his, malkin's and ovi's contracts determine what other players will receive

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This because his, malkin's and ovi's contracts determine what other players will receive
To a certain extent in the "no one can go higher" context. But a bigger factor is the overall cap and a team's individual budget. Their deals are insignificant in comparison to the latter.

Again, the NHLPA went off on 66 for his deal when he came back and NOTHING happened as a result.

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He can still get the same cap hit and take a raise in the early years of the deal. Just a matter of term IMO.

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I hope he just extends. The players association might have some input there though.
I understand why, but I still think that's ********. Every other damn player in the league can take discounts and circumvent the cap till the cows come home, and nobody gives a **** for the most part.

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