I don't get the love for Bernier. He hasn't proven to be any better than Dubnyk
Yeah... I remember a lot of comparisons between the three (Dubnyk, Bernier, Schneider), with initially, the potential rating going Bernier, Dubs, Schneider, and now having that completely reversed...
Whitney-Martin
Smid-Petry
Schultz-Schultz
Sutton, Potter
Dubnyk
Khabi
Plane, Teubert, Lander on a first call-up basis. That roster is a legitimate threat to challenge for a playoff spot if healthy.
We have some dmen coming up already and tambo is slow. I bet if we sign schultz, that's where it ends for d.
Clowe would be a good pickup, but I'd rather it not be at the expense of paajarvi. I think that trade would hurt us in the end. Magnus will figure out how to use his size eventually.
Just throwing ideas around, and there is like a 0.000000000000001% Chance of it happening but on the main trade board they are talking about Malkin being available, now I know there is like no chance but would you guys do something like this?
Yakupov
Klefbom
Lander
2013 1st
for
Malkin
Martin
I got pretty good reviews out of this on the main board.
Why Pittsburgh does it - Saves them a TON of cap space to pursue Suter/Parise in the offseason, gives them an elite first line winger in Yakupov, a defender who projects to be top pairing, a center who projects to be a great 3rd liner and potentially a very high pick next season (although I doubt it if we got Malkin)
Why Edmonton does it - It's Evgeni Malkin.. Gives us Malkin, RNH down the middle and gives us a better fit on FWD than Yakupov would give us. Martin is basically a cap dump but he would hopefully be able to find his step with us.
Just throwing ideas around, and there is like a 0.000000000000001% Chance of it happening but on the main trade board they are talking about Malkin being available, now I know there is like no chance but would you guys do something like this?
Yakupov
Klefbom
Lander
2013 1st
for
Malkin
Martin
I got pretty good reviews out of this on the main board.
Why Pittsburgh does it - Saves them a TON of cap space to pursue Suter/Parise in the offseason, gives them an elite first line winger in Yakupov, a defender who projects to be top pairing, a center who projects to be a great 3rd liner and potentially a very high pick next season (although I doubt it if we got Malkin)
Why Edmonton does it - It's Evgeni Malkin.. Gives us Malkin, RNH down the middle and gives us a better fit on FWD than Yakupov would give us. Martin is basically a cap dump but he would hopefully be able to find his step with us.
And personally, I'm not a fan of Malkin. I've seen him do way too many cheap shots and just seems to dissapear at times. I know he can dominate, but only when he wants to, which isn't all the time.
I have a good feeling about klefbom coming up
My next year prediction:
Whitney-Schultz
Smid-Petry
Sutton-Schultz
Welcome Back Potter in the pb
I think Klefbom can be that top pairing guy and that Whiney can get back to being a top pairing guy but to wait for both to happen without trying to improve seems ignorant. I want enough depth that when injuries occur that we are still okay. I think thats where Schultz comes in.
I think Klefbom can be that top pairing guy and that Whiney can get back to being a top pairing guy but to wait for both to happen without trying to improve seems ignorant. I want enough depth that when injuries occur that we are still okay. I think thats where Schultz comes in.
Here's the thing with Justin Schultz, even if we sign him he will be eligible to play in OKC next season. Nothing saying some time on the farm wouldn't benefit him. Just look at Petry, Gilbert, Greene and other college players.
I'm still in favor of making decisions based on:
1. Whitney being a no.5-6 guy (or being injured)
2. NO ROOKIES being on the blueline
3. Potter and Sutton being no.6-8 guys
That means we have two holes to fill from the word go: Barker and Peckham and another that they should address as a precaution in the event Whitney stinks.
Petry-Smid
UFA/Trade-UFA/Trade
N. Schultz-Whitney
Potter-Sutton
I'd personally love to see us move one of Gagner or Paajarvi for an up and coming defenseman.
For one more year. Yes. I think OP meant more being able to fill that top pairing spot in the future. Which I do too, because he's already looking better than a lot of the people taken before him
Yeah... I remember a lot of comparisons between the three (Dubnyk, Bernier, Schneider), with initially, the potential rating going Bernier, Dubs, Schneider, and now having that completely reversed...
Exactly. We're much better off just sticking with Dubnyk and hoping one of our prospects can turn into a star and steal the job
And personally, I'm not a fan of Malkin. I've seen him do way too many cheap shots and just seems to dissapear at times. I know he can dominate, but only when he wants to, which isn't all the time.
It's wierd with Malkin, he plays worse when Crosby is around. Anyway I am not going to run out and get an Oilers #71 jersey just yet.
Here's the thing with Justin Schultz, even if we sign him he will be eligible to play in OKC next season. Nothing saying some time on the farm wouldn't benefit him. Just look at Petry, Gilbert, Greene and other college players.
I definitely wouldn't sell that to him. You guarantee him a spot in the lineup and the only reason he'd be in the minors is a lockout.
Once he's signed, if he can't perform up to snuff, then you assign him to the minors.
I think he could step in and play right now ala Jake Gardiner.
Exactly. We're much better off just sticking with Dubnyk and hoping one of our prospects can turn into a star and steal the job
Well, I was thinking to add Schneider or Bernier if we somehow ditched Khabby, just to have another competition with Dubnyk, but otherwise, I agree with you.
Too much for Stuart. He is almost certainly going to California.
Also didn't think he was great against the Preds.
Absolutely it's too much money, but that's the point, bring in a quality veteran that you over pay in the short term. The Oilers defense gets ALOT better with Brad Stuart in it.
Add Stuart and Justin Schultz to the current group, the team isn't too bad
Stuart - Petry
N. Schultz - Smid (Shutdown pair)
J. Schultz - Whitney
Sutton, Potter
I don't like what is out there for goalies and given what has happened this playoffs I think the market could be higher than last year. We really aren't at a point where we have to get someone so I'd stick with what we have. I would potentially look to see if Bulin is moveable and try bring in someone younger. Roll the dice on a Mason for Bulin? Or sign a Gustavsson and hope that one of the two could finally make that next step.
Guys like Harding and Vokoun are going to be making a killing on this years market and I don't know that I want to lock into 4-5 year deals with those guys.
I also don't want to be giving up a ransom for a Bernier or Neuvrith only to find out they are as good as Varlamov.
I know this won't happen in a million years but if I were Tambo I'd be calling about Luongo.
Instead of worrying about Stuart who is more than likely going to SJ, why not look at who SJ will move to make room for him?
I thought Boyle could be possible, but he seems to have made it quite clear he doesn't want to leave. I think Burns is probably a pipe dream as well, so that leaves Vlasic and Murray. Both have one year left, Vlasic 3.1mil, Murray 2.5.
Vlasic isn't overly physical, but is younger and was SJ main PK d-man. Lead the team d in overall blocked shots with 173.
Murray is a nice physical d-man, but has never really been a healthy guy. Murray had 126 hits and 143 blocked shots in 60 games. Could be a decent one year stop gap.
I would not want to pay what it would take to get Schneider or Bernier. I loved the way Dubi played at the end. Draft Yak, sign Schultz and another dman and we are ready for the 2012 season.
