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06-21-2012, 04:19 PM
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Breaking news: Hearing Jordan Staal turned down 10-yr mega offer from PIT. Has indicated to PIT he doesn't plan on signing extension now.

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06-21-2012, 04:20 PM
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Wow. He'll go full mercenary then? Interesting to see which brother he goes to play with...
but he would be in the shadow of his one Brother in Carolina and in the shadow of Richards in NY.

If he likes the role of being just a guy instead of being THE guy let him.

If he wants to be the guy, be treated that way and payed, he has to consider Buffalo.

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06-21-2012, 04:30 PM
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Game back on according to Bob Mac...turned down a 10yr extension.

Caveat: Looks like he wants to go UFA.

If Staal won't re-up in PIT, where he loves it, not expected to extend with anyone else who may trade for him. Except perhaps Carolina.
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There's no point in a non-Stanley Cup contender giving up legit assets to acquire one year of Jordan Staal. Time to cross him off the wish list.


The fantasy was nice while it lasted....

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If thats the case... idk if i want him. If hea willibg to leave Pitt, he has an idea of where he wants to be and i doubt its Buffalo.
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so in regards to giving up Ennis/Cody for one year of Staal...

No way.
Forget Ennis/Hodgson -unles I'm Rutherford or Sather, I wouldn't give up more than draft picks to get him for just 1 year asa rental.

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Sabres have called about Jordan Staal, according to Pierre LeBrun. Maple Leafs might have interest.

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Bob McKenzie keeps tweeting he's gonna be on TV, anyoneknow which channel?

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06-21-2012, 04:50 PM
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Bob McKenzie keeps tweeting he's gonna be on TV, anyoneknow which channel?
TSN: Countdown to Draft at 7 PM.

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He won't necessarily be off anyone's list because now Shero has almost no bargaining power. Considering Regier's comment about wanting a long-term player I still figure Buffalo won't be interested, but for another team that might be on the verge of a legit Cup contender, one year of Staal may be worth the considerably lower price that Shero can ask for.

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so in regards to giving up Ennis/Cody for one year of Staal...

No way.
Have to agree with you there.

I'm guessing he stays in Pittsburgh then until free agency? Way to jam up the Pens Jordan.

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06-21-2012, 04:52 PM
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You know where I can get a stream? Because I live in the US

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Sabres have called about Jordan Staal, according to Pierre LeBrun. Maple Leafs might have interest.
There's a video on TSN's website in the RH column for a "Draftcentre" segment where LeBrun talks about the Sabres' plans. Common sense says that Regier would be inquiring about Staal because of his age, size and position - even though Regier's own words were that he didn't want players in the last year of their contract.

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Wait a few hours - I'm sure it will be posted to TSN's video archive later tonight.

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06-21-2012, 05:08 PM
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Would folks be open to including Ennis or Hodgson in a trade proposal for Staal? If thats what we had to do to get him.
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So you're saying you would?

I gotta think those two would be far more interesting forward pieces to the Pens due to their age and cost. At least compared to the other forwards we would likely package.

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I'd still go all out, IF the Pens put him on the market, and most teams lowball offers knowing he won't re-sign and only has a year left... then overpay, get him, and then let Terry Pegula work his magic

take the risk... if you don't part with Myers in the deal, you aren't parting with anything that can't be replaced as you build around Staal...

he wants to go somewhere to be the man...
i don't know where this idea of him wanting to play with his brothers came from..
He's in the shadow of the 2 best players in the league...

He'd be the man in Buffalo
Buffalo can pay him like the man
He could literally write his own contract
And be the man in a hardcore hockey market

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06-21-2012, 05:23 PM
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I'd still go all out, IF the Pens put him on the market, and most teams lowball offers knowing he won't re-sign and only has a year left... then overpay, get him, and then let Terry Pegula work his magic

take the risk... if you don't part with Myers in the deal, you aren't parting with anything that can't be replaced as you build around Staal...

he wants to go somewhere to be the man...
i don't know where this idea of him wanting to play with his brothers came from..
He's in the shadow of the 2 best players in the league...

He'd be the man in Buffalo
Buffalo can pay him like the man
He could literally write his own contract
And be the man in a hardcore hockey market
And then he signs in Carolina

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06-21-2012, 05:27 PM
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I'd still go all out, IF the Pens put him on the market, and most teams lowball offers knowing he won't re-sign and only has a year left... then overpay, get him, and then let Terry Pegula work his magic
And if Staal won't sign an extension, regardless of Pegula's magic? The Sabres' prospect / future core gets even weaker for a 1-year rental....

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he wants to go somewhere to be the man...
i don't know where this idea of him wanting to play with his brothers came from..
He's in the shadow of the 2 best players in the league...
Bob McKenzie tweeted a few weeks ago that Jordan was interested in playing with his brother in Carolina. McKenzie isn't one to idly throw his own theories out there if he didn't hear or learn of something to base the conjecture on.

What I haven't seen are any quotes from Staal, his agent or his family about him wanting to go somewhere else to "be the man" or reporters attesting to something they've heard from sources close to him.That seems to be entirely speculation and theories from fans, who think it's human nature to be unhappy playing behind Crosby and Malkin.


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And then he signs in Carolina
that certainly could happen. im well aware of that. im willing to take the risk because i believe jstaal is the type of player you can begin building a contender around.

you can continue to be optomistic, that the next batch of skill players will be the ones to turn this turd franchise around.

i know what we need... i'll take the gamble on acquiring a franchise cornerstone piece, knowing the risk that he could walk... but i believe in pegula

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Bob McKenzie tweeted a few weeks ago that Jordan was interested in playing with his brother in Carolina. McKenzie isn't one to idly throw his own theories out there if he didn't hear or learn of something to base the conjecture on.
thanks. i must've missed that.

can Carolina pay him 30 million up front ?

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Jordan Staal's agent Paul Krepelka: "Jordan is not prepared to sign an extension at this time."
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06-21-2012, 05:31 PM
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I'd still go all out, IF the Pens put him on the market, and most teams lowball offers knowing he won't re-sign and only has a year left... then overpay, get him, and then let Terry Pegula work his magic

take the risk... if you don't part with Myers in the deal, you aren't parting with anything that can't be replaced as you build around Staal...

he wants to go somewhere to be the man...
i don't know where this idea of him wanting to play with his brothers came from..
He's in the shadow of the 2 best players in the league...

He'd be the man in Buffalo
Buffalo can pay him like the man
He could literally write his own contract
And be the man in a hardcore hockey market


Some times you get so enhammered with a player you only look at the facts/stats YOU want to see.

If you think trading Ennis+ for Staal would in any way help the Sabres you're wrong.
Ennis helped Stafford pick his game up and became exactly what the Sabres needed last year. Trading Ennis would not only cause the Sabres to lose their best playmaker but hurt this teams goal scoring ability

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I'd still go all out, IF the Pens put him on the market, and most teams lowball offers knowing he won't re-sign and only has a year left... then overpay, get him, and then let Terry Pegula work his magic

take the risk... if you don't part with Myers in the deal, you aren't parting with anything that can't be replaced as you build around Staal...

he wants to go somewhere to be the man...
i don't know where this idea of him wanting to play with his brothers came from..
He's in the shadow of the 2 best players in the league...

He'd be the man in Buffalo
Buffalo can pay him like the man
He could literally write his own contract
And be the man in a hardcore hockey market
Yep. Back to the Pominville/Adam for Staal/Kennedy deal. That's a good deal, even without the current information on Staal's preferences.

Bring Staal in, let Pegula convince him to stay. Staal could be the Sabres Mario Williams. Being the biggest fish in a small town is a good deal. Staal can be everything he wants to be in Buffalo.

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that certainly could happen. im well aware of that. im willing to take the risk because i believe jstaal is the type of player you can begin building a contender around.

you can continue to be optomistic, that the next batch of skill players will be the ones to turn this turd franchise around.

i know what we need... i'll take the gamble on acquiring a franchise cornerstone piece, knowing the risk that he could walk... but i believe in pegula
I wouldn't. Why give up valuable assets that will probably benefit another team for years to come when there's zero guarantee he would stay here? And also when you could just wait til he hits FA and sign him without losing roster players? That would be horrible asset management, and a bad risk.

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If I'm a GM, no extension means Pitt gets a late 1st rd or 2nd rd pick for Staal, and not a cent more.

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Some times you get so enhammered with a player you only look at the facts/stats YOU want to see.

If you think trading Ennis+ for Staal would in any way help the Sabres you're wrong.
Ennis helped Stafford pick his game up and became exactly what the Sabres needed last year. Trading Ennis would not only cause the Sabres to lose their best playmaker but hurt this teams goal scoring ability
reasoning and facts have no business here.

Regier will not trade for Staal without negotiating an extension. His words

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Some times you get so enhammered with a player you only look at the facts/stats YOU want to see.

If you think trading Ennis+ for Staal would in any way help the Sabres you're wrong.


Ennis helped Stafford pick his game up and became exactly what the Sabres needed last year. Trading Ennis would not only cause the Sabres to lose their best playmaker but hurt this teams goal scoring ability
you convinced me! nice work!

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