Boyle - Murray
Burns - Vlasic
Stuart - Braun
Demers
I would ship Moore off at the TDL for a 2nd leaving that position to Wingels.
I would consider trading Demers for Cal Clutterbuck (trade forum) prior to season start which would move Wingels down to line 4. Especially if Doan/Whitney dont sign.
I would consider shopping Boyle and Clowe to Philly, Pittsburgh, and Florida if the team is 5h1t at the TDL.
When are the assistants going to be fired? Each day that they are allowed to interact with and impart their "knowledge" on to the players is a day lost for the organization.
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Patrick Marleau ($6.900m) / Joe Thornton ($7.000m) / Joe Pavelski ($4.000m)
Ryane Clowe ($3.625m) / Logan Couture ($2.875m) / Martin Havlat ($5.000m)
Daniel Winnik ($1.300m) / Andrew Desjardins ($1.000m) / Tommy Wingels ($1.100m)
Taylor Pyatt ($1.500m) / James Sheppard ($0.761m) / T.J. Galiardi ($1.000m)
Michal Handzus ($2.500m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Marc-Edouard Vlasic ($3.100m) / Brent Burns ($5.760m)
Dan Boyle ($6.667m) / Justin Braun ($1.300m)
Jason Demers ($1.250m) / Matt Pelech ($0.700m)
Douglas Murray ($2.500m) /
GOALTENDERS
Antti Niemi ($3.800m)
Thomas Greiss ($0.588m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $64,225,417; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $74,583
This is my "Best Worst Case Scenario." Assuming we are unable to move Murray or Handzus. I wouldn't be opposed to the Sharks not having a knee jerk reaction to our off year. Lets give the boys this long offseason to regroup and refocus.
I want to see where the line of Winnik - Desjardins - Wingels can go. Maybe they all take the next step up.
Same with Galiardi. Hopefully Sheppard comes back and has some ability left. And I'm a fan of grabbing someone like Taylor Pyatt, physical former 1st rounder who is 6'4.
Also it seems like Burns and Demers are poised to really come into their own next year, and if Murray continues to struggle maybe a guy like Pelech can fill his shoes somewhere midseason and beyond.
Here's another one, i continue to focus on cap strapped teams and their decent role players. Anyone have ideas on what the cap could be next year, enjoy.
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Patrick Marleau ($6.900m) / Joe Thornton ($7.000m) / Martin Havlat ($5.000m)
Ryane Clowe ($3.625m) / Joe Pavelski ($4.000m) / Logan Couture ($2.875m)
Ray Whitney ($3.000m) / Chris Kelly ($2.125m) / T.J. Galiardi ($0.735m)
Daniel Winnik ($0.950m) / Andrew Desjardins ($0.594m) / Tommy Wingels ($0.660m)
James Sheppard ($0.761m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Boyle ($6.667m) / Marc-Edouard Vlasic ($3.100m)
Brent Burns ($5.760m) / Justin Braun ($1.250m)
Jason Demers ($1.250m) / Brad Stuart ($3.750m)
Matt Pelech ($0.578m) /
GOALTENDERS
Antti Niemi ($3.800m)
Thomas Greiss ($0.588m)
BUYOUTS
Michal Handzus ($0.833m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $66,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $65,800,250; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $499,750
Here's another one, i continue to focus on cap strapped teams and their decent role players. Anyone have ideas on what the cap could be next year, enjoy.
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Patrick Marleau ($6.900m) / Joe Thornton ($7.000m) / Martin Havlat ($5.000m)
Ryane Clowe ($3.625m) / Joe Pavelski ($4.000m) / Logan Couture ($2.875m)
Ray Whitney ($3.000m) / Chris Kelly ($2.125m) / T.J. Galiardi ($0.735m)
Daniel Winnik ($0.950m) / Andrew Desjardins ($0.594m) / Tommy Wingels ($0.660m)
James Sheppard ($0.761m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Boyle ($6.667m) / Marc-Edouard Vlasic ($3.100m)
Brent Burns ($5.760m) / Justin Braun ($1.250m)
Jason Demers ($1.250m) / Brad Stuart ($3.750m)
Matt Pelech ($0.578m) /
GOALTENDERS
Antti Niemi ($3.800m)
Thomas Greiss ($0.588m)
BUYOUTS
Michal Handzus ($0.833m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $66,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $65,800,250; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $499,750
With the uncertainty of the CBA, a team like the Sharks will likely pinch their pennies when it comes to contracts. This is why I think they may look towards futures for guys like Boyle, Clowe, Murray, and Niemi...probably not all of them but if they put them on the table, that's probably the return they want. Last time the CBA went up, although drastically different economical circumstances, the Sharks didn't sign anyone and let everyone UFA go for the most part. Besides that possibility, it's probably in their best interest as an organization to replenish the cupboard with a few more draft selections, especially if they can get at least a 2nd rounder or two out of whoever they deal.
Here's another one, i continue to focus on cap strapped teams and their decent role players. Anyone have ideas on what the cap could be next year, enjoy.
CAPGEEK.COM CAP CALCULATOR ROSTER
My Custom Lineup
FORWARDS
Patrick Marleau ($6.900m) / Joe Thornton ($7.000m) / Martin Havlat ($5.000m)
Ryane Clowe ($3.625m) / Joe Pavelski ($4.000m) / Logan Couture ($2.875m)
Ray Whitney ($3.000m) / Chris Kelly ($2.125m) / T.J. Galiardi ($0.735m)
Daniel Winnik ($0.950m) / Andrew Desjardins ($0.594m) / Tommy Wingels ($0.660m)
James Sheppard ($0.761m) /
DEFENSEMEN
Dan Boyle ($6.667m) / Marc-Edouard Vlasic ($3.100m)
Brent Burns ($5.760m) / Justin Braun ($1.250m)
Jason Demers ($1.250m) / Brad Stuart ($3.750m)
Matt Pelech ($0.578m) /
GOALTENDERS
Antti Niemi ($3.800m)
Thomas Greiss ($0.588m)
BUYOUTS
Michal Handzus ($0.833m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled without the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $66,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $65,800,250; BONUSES: $0
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $499,750
Unfortunately I think Winnik, Galiardi, Wingels and Desjardins are all going to ask for 1+ million. Overall those players are going to need 2million more in cap.
Unfortunately I think Winnik, Galiardi, Wingels and Desjardins are all going to ask for 1+ million. Overall those players are going to need 2million more in cap.
Wingels and Desjardins aren't going to get much of a raise. They haven't earned it but they will get short contracts so that they can get their payday if they step up. What they will get is a similar amount but on a one-way so that they're more guaranteed a higher annual salary this time around. I'd say about 700-750k for each of them. Winnik is going to get 2 mil likely.
With the uncertainty of the CBA, a team like the Sharks will likely pinch their pennies when it comes to contracts. This is why I think they may look towards futures for guys like Boyle, Clowe, Murray, and Niemi...probably not all of them but if they put them on the table, that's probably the return they want. Last time the CBA went up, although drastically different economical circumstances, the Sharks didn't sign anyone and let everyone UFA go for the most part. Besides that possibility, it's probably in their best interest as an organization to replenish the cupboard with a few more draft selections, especially if they can get at least a 2nd rounder or two out of whoever they deal.
Yep, hard to be a GM this summer if you don't know what the rules (CBA) are and or the cap number. I agree on replenish the cupboard, i'm hoping for a pick and or decent player for Murray this summer. I also think if we stop moving picks we can keep them for ourselves.
He's this season's Ville Leino. Unsustainable PDO, poor Corsi, bad crop of forwards, lots of teams desperately looking for 2/3 Centers. Someone will pay Joel Ward/Ville Leino money and regret it hugely 8 months from now.
He's this season's Ville Leino. Unsustainable PDO, poor Corsi, bad crop of forwards, lots of teams desperately looking for 2/3 Centers. Someone will pay Joel Ward/Ville Leino money and regret it hugely 8 months from now.
Point taken! Hey, didn't Ward score a OT winner this week for the Caps...
Yep, hard to be a GM this summer if you don't know what the rules (CBA) are and or the cap number. I agree on replenish the cupboard, i'm hoping for a pick and or decent player for Murray this summer. I also think if we stop moving picks we can keep them for ourselves.
It's possible to load up on 2nd rounders if they move Clowe and Murray for one each plus whatever other assets they want to snag and move back from their 1st round pick.
Ovechkin on this team would be a disaster. If you watched Ovie play these days you'd see why, but you're likely just going off of his reputation and career stats. He also has a 9.5mm cap hit. I'm sorry, but that's just a ****ing absurd cap hit for someone who is not going to be responsible in his own zone.
Really? The #5 goal scorer in the league and the leading playoff scorer in the series where they just ousted the defending Stanley Cup Champions? That guy would be a disaster on the Sharks? You mean as compared to all the superstars we have? Who are all just now getting back from the golf course as I type this?
We're talking about the guy who is two years removed from being arguably the best player in the game. Who for whatever reason has slipped a bit and perhaps doesn't fit into his team's system any more and might do well with a change of scenery. His recent performance is the only thing that makes him moving even remotely plausible.
And for all the *****ing about defense, in the four years prior to this one, Ovi was a +105. A plus ****ing 105! Anyone on our team been anywhere close to that?
Ovi would be awesome on the Sharks and a hell of a lot more fun to watch than Marleau. I agree that it's just a pipe dream though.
Come to think of it, it may be better to throw $4.5M Jason Garrison's way instead of $7M at Suter. We could probably still retain Boyle if that's the case.
Come to think of it, it may be better to throw $4.5M Jason Garrison's way instead of $7M at Suter. We could probably still retain Boyle if that's the case.
We probably don't have much of a choice since I just don't see Suter coming here. He'll probably have better options monetarily and certainly better options in travel and in contending for the Cup.
Really? The #5 goal scorer in the league and the leading playoff scorer in the series where they just ousted the defending Stanley Cup Champions? That guy would be a disaster on the Sharks? You mean as compared to all the superstars we have? Who are all just now getting back from the golf course as I type this?
We're talking about the guy who is two years removed from being arguably the best player in the game. Who for whatever reason has slipped a bit and perhaps doesn't fit into his team's system any more and might do well with a change of scenery. His recent performance is the only thing that makes him moving even remotely plausible.
And for all the *****ing about defense, in the four years prior to this one, Ovi was a +105. A plus ****ing 105! Anyone on our team been anywhere close to that?
Ovi would be awesome on the Sharks and a hell of a lot more fun to watch than Marleau. I agree that it's just a pipe dream though.
I see a trade for Ovie as Heatley all over again. When Heater came over he was two years removed from back to back 100 point seasons. Many people salivated over what his production would be on a line with Jumbo. It didn't work out.
I'm concerned that he hasn't been able to adapt to a system which emphasizes defense and asks him to be part of the offense as opposed to all of the offense. Of course if he were to come here and if we were to turn the keys to the offense over to him and let him do whatever he wants it would be exciting to watch, but we're not going to necessarily be a better team because of it. He may mature and learn how to become a more complete player, but that's a hell of a gamble on a guy who's going to carry close to a 10mm cap hit for the next decade.
I see a trade for Ovie as Heatley all over again. When Heater came over he was two years removed from back to back 100 point seasons. Many people salivated over what his production would be on a line with Jumbo. It didn't work out.
I'm concerned that he hasn't been able to adapt to a system which emphasizes defense and asks him to be part of the offense as opposed to all of the offense. Of course if he were to come here and if we were to turn the keys to the offense over to him and let him do whatever he wants it would be exciting to watch, but we're not going to necessarily be a better team because of it. He may mature and learn how to become a more complete player, but that's a hell of a gamble on a guy who's going to carry close to a 10mm cap hit for the next decade.
Jumbos unique.
He makes lesser players better, but he doesn't seem to make better players better. I'd rather just put 2 guys on JT's line, who are hard working, defensively responsible, but can bury the puck. Preferably natural wingers. I think I was the only one, but I was all for trading for Ryder when he was available. I thought he would be a good, cheap, winger that would have done well with JT. Although I didn't expect him to score 35 goals, I thought 25-30 was where he'd end up with JT, at a reasonable price.
Do we really need that big of a signing on the D-lines?
Vlasic/Burns/Boyle/Demers/Braun/Murray or Stuart, that seems reasonable?
Much rather spend 5m on two 2.5m forwards who add depth.
If Suter is available for you to sign, you have to do it. The man is too good and would help the process of preparing for the future by making Boyle expendable.
If Suter is available for you to sign, you have to do it. The man is too good and would help the process of preparing for the future by making Boyle expendable.
Wont argue with you on that one, if Sutter wants to sign here you make it happen whatever it takes. I just don't see it, and if it's not Sutter I'd rather stand pat with the exception of Stuart in, Murray out.
If Suter is available for you to sign, you have to do it. The man is too good and would help the process of preparing for the future by making Boyle expendable.
It has little to no chance of happening, but I agree.
Someone mentioned Jason Garrison, I really think we should go after him. Underrated D-man, scored 16 goals, and pretty sound defensively. Probably won't be too expensive, around 3.5 mil, 3 years should do the trick.
