Do people realize that besides that first season he was in the playoffs (When he was a whopping 21 years old), all of his teams have lost in the 1st round. Therefore his entire team did not do well, it's not his teams have won and been the better team and he has played like ****. They were out-classed in pretty much every year he has been fortunate enough to make the playoffs.
hahahaha stack the stats why dont yeah, gabby has 27 points in 41 games, think i would rather have the younger kid whos closer to a point per game and isnt made of glass
Yes, on the offensive juggernaut known as the Minnesota Wild.
There are people still using the made of glass argument as well.
This board is something else. Im 3 posts in and im already considering leaving because of **** like this.
Seeing way too many excuses; chief among them being "Ottawa really took away his time and space." Well, dont you think thats the gameplan of most teams throughout the season? What silly logic. Bottom line is he needs to find a way to overcome it, and quickly.
The games are rougher and higher in intensity during the playoffs. I really worry about Gaborik's ability to engage in that environment on a consistent basis.
Its wonderful what he did in the regular season. My point is, if he cant raise his compete level and score some goals, he'll be a major reason why we're out of the playoffs.
the fact that he hasn't produced in the playoffs in 9 years is meaningful to me. I'm weird that way.
Oh I like what you did there. Once again skewing things. I guess 3 goals and 1 assist in a 5 game series is bad when losing to the team that eventually wins the cup. Was the 2006/2007 season 9 years ago already? Damn, i know i slept in today but I didn't know it was 2016.
]Seeing way too many excuses; chief among them being "Ottawa really took away his time and space." Well, dont you think thats the gameplan of most teams throughout the season? What silly logic. Bottom line is he needs to find a way to overcome it, and quickly. [/b]
The games are rougher and higher in intensity during the playoffs. I really worry about Gaborik's ability to engage in that environment on a consistent basis.
Actually, it's not. As you already stated, teams do things in the playoffs differently. Teams don't gameplan anywhere near the same way, players dont focus/sacrifice, clutch and grab anywhere near the same way, referees don't nearly ref the same way, etc.
Oh I like what you did there. Once again skewing things. I guess 3 goals and 1 assist in a 5 game series is bad when losing to the team that eventually wins the cup. Was the 2006/2007 season 9 years ago already? Damn, i know i slept in today but I didn't know it was 2016.
ok, I'll give you that. The collective work since his first playoff season is still poor.
Actually, it's not. As you already stated, teams do things in the playoffs differently. Teams don't gameplan anywhere near the same way, players dont focus/sacrifice, clutch and grab anywhere near the same way, referees don't nearly ref the same way, etc.
would you say that's the reason Gaborik has played well below his standard in recent playoffs?
Actually, it's not. As you already stated, teams do things in the playoffs differently. Teams don't gameplan anywhere near the same way, players dont focus/sacrifice, clutch and grab anywhere near the same way, referees don't nearly ref the same way, etc.
Indeed. "Dont give Marian Gaborik time and space" is a revolutionary model of defending a team's best player.
We're all very lucky that Marian Gaborik let himself be suffocated the entire series; a wonderful decoy that allowed his team to explode for 14 goals in a 7 game series.
Its wonderful what he did in the regular season. My point is, if he cant raise his compete level and score some goals, he'll be a major reason why we're out of the playoffs.
Its not an excuse, its a fact.
Keep talking.
Gaborik is a major reason WE ARE IN THE ****ING PLAYOFFS.
5 posts in, really considering leaving. Some of these people on here are something else. Sure, debates are to be expected, but this type of **** is ****ing asinine.
Lets just be glad we're in the 2nd round for the first time in 4 years.
Expectations are high for him. He will be expected to do more. The Ottawa series is in the past now so all he can do is focus on making a bigger contribution against Washington. They won't win without a team effort, but it's silly to think that a player of Gaborik's talent (like Lundqvist and Richards) won't be leaned on more heavily than others. Star players will always face their opponent's toughest matchups, so they need to fight through it. At times Gaborik seems to lack that extra effort that you need every shift in the playoffs, the effort you see in Hagelin and Callahan. I just don't think the Rangers go far with only one goal every seven games from Gaborik.
That being said, they could use some goals from the likes of Anisimov and Dubinsky, too. And hopefully Boyle comes back.
Gaborik is a major reason WE ARE IN THE ****ING PLAYOFFS.
5 posts in, really considering leaving. Some of these people on here are something else. Sure, debates are to be expected, but this type of **** is ****ing asinine.
Lets just be glad we're in the 2nd round for the first time in 4 years.
Do you realize that, while completely irrelevant to this particular conversation, I am not bashing Marian Gaborik's regular season performance?
I expect more than what hes shown in the last series. Hope he plays more like he did in, you know, this regular season you keep talking about.
Going back to 2007-2008, when he had 1 point in a 6 game series. If you will please notice his following season, when he missed most of the season after getting surgery to repair his groin. But again, we "Gaborik apologists" can not use that as a reason he played poorly.
Next shot at the playoffs:
2010-2011 - when he had lingering shoulder issues from dislocating his shoulder earlier in the year. It was plain as day to see for everyone. He had 48 points. He had 2 points in 5 games.
2011-2012 - 3 points in 7 games in a pretty low scoring series. Is it great? Absolutely not, and he needs to pick it up, but the fact people keep calling him a player who can not play in the playoffs, to me, is asinine.
would you say that's the reason Gaborik has played well below his standard in recent playoffs?
I'd say it's the reason why 99% of players in the history of the NHL play below what they normally do or even above what they normally do. I don't think it its even remotely true to say he doesn't perform once the playoffs start. He's had two postseasons proving otherwise, one of which was when he was Kreider's age. Gaborik has never played on a stacked offensive team. It's very easy to gameplan when a team has only one sniper. You can't do it in the regular season because the same things you would try to do result in penalties.
What I don't like is that when he has had chances in the past few games, it appears that he is making very weak shots and/or was shooting them directly at Anderson. I hope he steps it up b/c he could be a huge boost to this team if he starts scoring.
Going back to 2007-2008, when he had 1 point in a 6 game series. If you will please notice his following season, when he missed most of the season after getting surgery to repair his groin. But again, we "Gaborik apologists" can not use that as a reason he played poorly.
Next shot at the playoffs:
2010-2011 - when he had lingering shoulder issues from dislocating his shoulder earlier in the year. It was plain as day to see for everyone. He had 48 points. He had 2 points in 5 games.
2011-2012 - 3 points in 7 games in a pretty low scoring series. Is it great? Absolutely not, and he needs to pick it up, but the fact people keep calling him a player who can not play in the playoffs, to me, is asinine.
His goal was a beauty too.
Just as I said last year, im 100% confident in his ability. He'll be fine.
Why do people turn non-issues into issues? Is there that much of a void for you guys to complain about because there isnt anything to complain about?
Honestly, any player not named Giroux in these playoffs could be chewed for not contributing enough.
only Foligno, Spezza, and Gonchar had more points on the Ottawa team than Gabby did. Spezza by 2, and Gonchar and Foligno by 1. So for all his awful play, he was more of a factor out there than many of the Sens were. Karlsson had 1 point the entire series, a goal that went in off of MDZ's skate. That fluke shot doesnt go in, he gets shut out completely. Did he have an awful series? or do you give credit to the Rangers for shutting him down. Interesting how that works. Im curious if ppl are saying Karlsson was awful, or our D were spectacular in shutting him down. It is impossible the opposite could be true? could it be....another team is capable of doing what we do and shut down the oppositions best players?
This is why, generally speaking, other players always need to step up during the playoffs. The stars can be neutralized.
Gaborik is the type of player that thrives on opportunities he gets during a game. If he finds space, and has an opening, he exploits it quickly. He isn't hauling ass all around the ice making things happen, he waits like a shark...and when he has the opportunity to strike, he does. That's his game.
Too many people are focusing on his Offense too much. It’s not his lack of Goal scoring that disturbs me. That will come. It’s his lack of Grit. This team could win the cup. They need everyone giving 100%. That includes fighting for pucks. He looses the puck to easily. You don’t see him fight to get it back. I think it’s a big problem on the Power Play also.
2011-2012 - 3 points in 7 games in a pretty low scoring series. Is it great? Absolutely not, and he needs to pick it up, but the fact people keep calling him a player who can not play in the playoffs, to me, is asinine.
The low-scoring part is a pretty good point. What matters about Gaborik is his contribution to the offense, rather than the total number of points.
In the regular season, he contributed to about 34% of the team's goals. In the first round, he contributed to 21%. It's about a 40% drop. Pretty drastic.
That being said, I don't really agree with the points about him overcoming time and space being taken away, etc. This is a team game, and it doesn't only relate to the players on the ice at any given moment. If the Rangers secondary scorers start producing, then the opponent is forced to not key on Gaborik to the same degree. Had Stepan played early in the series the same way he played late in the series, by the middle of the series, Gaborik would've had more time and space to work with.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Gaborik is not a player who can take a team onto his back. He needs a supporting cast doing their jobs to make him successful. Some players are just that way and some people have a really difficult time understanding it.
