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04-28-2012, 10:44 AM
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I still don't get Campbell over Gibson.


Campbell has looked amazing in the AHL so far, granted it's been a small stint. Everyone who's seen him for a significant amount of time says he often keeps his team in the game, and is a very dominant goaltender. He just always gets stuck with teams that focus primarily on offense. Windsor, SSM, even here in Cedar Park, all three teams focused primarily on offense and left Campbell out to dry.

There were 3 players in the 2011 draft with superstar potential. Hall, Seguin, and Campbell. And so far, as a goaltender, Campbell's looking pretty damn good.

Try actually watching some games and not just looking at his stats.

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04-28-2012, 10:44 AM
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Nice list. I would probably put Ellis down 5 or so spots, but other than that it's pretty solid.

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04-28-2012, 11:06 AM
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I really don't get all the Brendan Smith hype. He is almost 3 years older than most people on this list and his numbers weren't that spectacular in the AHL last year or this year. He isn't very good defensively and makes a lot of blunders in his own zone. A guy like Tim Erixon had just as good of numbers last year as Smith and is 2 years younger. You'd think as a 23 year old he would be able to put up killer numbers in the AHL but he really hasn't. He does have size and plays physical but I never see anything great about his game. He has good stick handling, skating and a solid shot though. I don't see potential bonifide #1 like some do, but I see a good 2nd pairing guy. Idk, also just seems weird to compare him to some players that are 4 years younger than him. That is like the difference between freshman and a senior in college... or even someone who already graduated.
Smith hasnt had amazing numbers in the AHL but youve gotta look at his team. Nyquist this year was the only real offensive threat. Smith also missed a large chunk of the start of the season with suspension and was playing catch up for a month to get back in game shape. Theres hype for a reason, I'm sure you've barely seen him play if you dont get all the hype. And not to mention AHL defensemen dont really put up that many points, even with missing a month to suspension he was top 5 in defensive scoring before he got called up

He came up to the NHL and in very limited time had 7 points in 14 games, 3 or 4 really big hits and a very one sided fight as well. His defensive flaws are barely there anymore either, thats why he was kept down so long because those were ironed out and now he will be a much better player because of it.

The red wings are also a top notch team when it comes to developing defenseman, youre looking at a number 2 dman most likely, or a great third guy on a stacked team.

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04-28-2012, 11:36 AM
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decent list, I think foligno should be higher but overall good job

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04-28-2012, 11:53 AM
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nice list! Not an Isles fan or UND fan but Brock Nelson was fun to watch. Glad he's ranked.

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04-28-2012, 12:04 PM
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04-28-2012, 12:06 PM
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If you're going to call Edmonton Eddie, at least call Minnesota Minny
It's so damn petty at this point it's just pathetic

Simplifying this bickering to it's simplest form (not the OP which is a solid list for the most part) it's nothing but yet another case of "wah HF rated a prospect higher than mine!". I can't wait for re-alignment.

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04-28-2012, 12:20 PM
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I honestly think Colborne is too high. Maybe it's because whenever I watch, I almost never notice him. I didn't notice him much with the Leafs... he just seems underwhelming because nothing about his game stands out.

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04-28-2012, 12:52 PM
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Damn solid list, a lot better than HF's which isn't hard but still real good

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04-28-2012, 12:59 PM
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A good read, thanks.

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04-28-2012, 02:41 PM
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Good list but I had seriously consider taking Colborne out of that list and include one of Ashton or Blacker or somewhere. I don't see much in Colborne, to me the guy won't be ever be a top 6 C that his potential speaks of, more like a capable of NHLer who may be of a little use here and there.

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04-28-2012, 02:46 PM
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good list

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04-28-2012, 02:58 PM
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Questionable response at best.


How is Tarasenko a fully developed prospect? If he is, surely the other two are? He's only 2 months older than Granlund and about 5 months older than Kuznetsov?
bad wording i guess.. what i meant is Tarasenko is a more polished player already, he clearly has less flaws left in his game than Kuznetsov, but Kuznetsov definitely has higher potential.

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04-28-2012, 03:02 PM
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Great List! I was amazed that Granlund was not on the HF list (at least I didn't see him)

I would love to see your top 50 with this years draft class in it. It would give a good idea of your opinion of the talent that's in the draft.

Great work!

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04-28-2012, 03:03 PM
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surprisingly little to complain about over this list. nice job dude

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04-28-2012, 03:05 PM
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Nice job.

Certainly better than HF's rankings.

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04-28-2012, 03:08 PM
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No Jon Merrill is shocking, as is no Gustav Nyquist

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04-28-2012, 03:46 PM
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Great List! I was amazed that Granlund was not on the HF list (at least I didn't see him)

I would love to see your top 50 with this years draft class in it. It would give a good idea of your opinion of the talent that's in the draft.

Great work!
Mikael Granlund was 9th on HF. Maybe you were talking about Markus though.

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04-28-2012, 04:39 PM
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I'll openly admit I'm a Blues fan and have some bias towards Tarasenko, but I really don't see how Kuznetsov is higher than him. Only explanation I have seen offered is that Tarasenko is more "physically developed" and by implication doesn't have as much room to improve relative to Kuznetsov. But you could just as easily imply that Tarasenko has worked harder in order to get into the physical shape he is in and thus, is more likely to reach or exceed his "potential."

Concerns about coming to the NHL (if this is taken into account) also swing in Tarasenko's favor as there's been more signs of Kuznetsov's willingness to stay (I'm not saying he will).

All the objective/statistical evidence favors Tarasenko. Is this ranking based purely on best possible scenario concerning potential (ie. HF's number rank but no letter)? If so, then that is a valid explanation; if not, I can't agree that Kuznetsov is #1 (if anything its a toss up b/w Tarasenko and Granlund).

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04-28-2012, 04:52 PM
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Nice list, Ottawa is the only team with four on it I believe.

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04-28-2012, 06:00 PM
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Nice list, Ottawa is the only team with four on it I believe.
The only team with four, yes. Minnesota has 5 and New York has 4, but in two separate teams.

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04-28-2012, 08:06 PM
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As far as Anaheim prospects go, Palmieri is at least on par with Schultz and is regarded as a much better prospect than Rakell.

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04-28-2012, 08:22 PM
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Good list but needs Palmieri in the 40-30 range

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04-28-2012, 08:59 PM
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Zack Kassian is too high and, being a Knights fan, you have Namestnikov too high aswell. Brandon Saad and Ty Rattie should both be ahead of Vlad.

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Very good read, G2P.

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