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04-28-2012, 12:48 AM
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04-28-2012, 12:51 AM
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I'd like to see what he can do for a full season in the NHL. 40-50 points next season would be good for him.

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04-28-2012, 01:03 AM
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if bozak, can post just shy of 50 points in an short season.. i can see kadri hitting 60.

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04-28-2012, 02:22 AM
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Pure skill that hopefully won't be put to waste by mis management from the leafs which I hate to,say already has started and will probably continue to,happen in the future

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04-28-2012, 03:14 AM
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Kadri is no way comparable to Corey Perry. Perry is the definition of a power forward who is one of the best cycle players in the game with a dirty release.

Kadri is a great dangler who is able to create space by being shifty and elusive with just an average release at the NHL level but is extremely quick in close to the net. The best comparable upside players are Derek Roy and Riberio.

People also need to stop saying the Leafs have ruined Kadri. What is wrong with this organization finally being patient with a player?

Comparing Kadri to Roy and Ribeiro:

Roy played 101 regular season games AHL games and 25 AHL playoff games before sticking in the NHL.

Ribeiro played 103 regular season AHL games and another 12 AHL playoff games before sticking in the NHL.

Kadri has played 92 regular season AHL games and only 3 AHL playoff games with more to come this season.


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04-28-2012, 03:30 AM
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Kadri is a great dangler who is able to create space by being shifty and elusive with just an average release at the NHL level but is extremely quick in close to the net. .
think you're spot on. And I said that in fake british accent so you know it's legit.

still wonder why we didn't make him a center though. His deking is better coming down the middle of the ice, and he's a good playmaker and passer, plus his size wouldn't be as big an issue. Not sure what's up with that seems like bullocks

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04-28-2012, 04:22 AM
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still wonder why we didn't make him a center though. His deking is better coming down the middle of the ice, and he's a good playmaker and passer, plus his size wouldn't be as big an issue. Not sure what's up with that seems like bullocks
Reasoning for that: faceoffs + added defensive responsibility associated with center position. Both not strong suits of his.

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04-28-2012, 04:48 AM
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04-28-2012, 04:58 AM
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I have him pegged for tyler ennis numbers realistically for next season if he makes the team, if not. Logan Couture/Claude Giroux-esque numbers.

I believe he can be the top line center still. Let's hope it happens.

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04-28-2012, 05:03 AM
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I believe he can be the top line center still. Let's hope it happens.
I agree. Patience is the key though. Ribeiro took until age 22/23 to nail down a spot in the NHL, and now he's a top-end centerman. If he can do it at 6'0 and 177lbs then why can't Kadri, a guy with arguably just as much skill, do it at 6'0 and 175-180 lbs?

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04-28-2012, 05:11 AM
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I agree. Patience is the key though. Ribeiro took until age 22/23 to nail down a spot in the NHL, and now he's a top-end centerman. If he can do it at 6'0 and 177lbs then why can't Kadri, a guy with arguably just as much skill, do it at 6'0 and 175-180 lbs?
The problem with kadri is his conditioning is still off so I hope this summer he works on that, it just takes time for some others longer than usual. It seems this is the case with him and Colborne. Lets all hope the AHL playoffs gives him more experience and great knowledge on where he needs to improve for himself and how the organization can help him as well.

I know the numbers are very similar to Ribeiro and I agree that is very possible where he may land, but I have even higher hopes tbh, he just seems to have soo much skill that he can bring out and in general this team can use.

I am very glad we are taking our sweet time with him as well. I really wanted him to stay in the AHL and develop his defensive game and take his own pace, I know people cry for him to be up, but I on the other hand am very happy about it.


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04-28-2012, 05:21 AM
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Top end: A Ribeiro clone, maybe with slightly more offense.

Low end: A Marchand with more offensive capabilities

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04-28-2012, 05:25 AM
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Top end: Sidney crosby
Low end: Wayne Gretzky.
Come on...He's a leaf prospect. you gotta be realistic.

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Maybe a gritty Sami Kapanen?

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...y.php?pid=2628

50-70 point player scoring 20 most years.

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I always imagine he will turn out to be a Briere clone. Skilled winger/centre with pest qualities able to be a ppg player once he matured.

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04-28-2012, 05:46 AM
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Maybe a gritty Sami Kapanen?

http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/stats/p...y.php?pid=2628

50-70 point player scoring 20 most years.
I personally expect more from him, Kapanen was very inconsistent if I remember correctly?

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he has alot of grit to his game, draws penatlys... starts beef... and yet has talent on the hands
Ya, I see the same thing. Something like a Darcy Tucker who can score as well as see the ice better (assists).

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I like the "nasty Ribiero" comparison.

I have always been impressed with his passing abilities. He should be playing center and paired with some wingers with size and finishing ability.

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Always seen a lot of Ribeiro in him but I don't expect 70+ points from Nazem, more like a second line, 60 point player who has a nice pest quality to him. I think the AHL will do the kid a lot of good and I don't think most realize it. Some of our prospects people are willing to give all the time in the world to but with Kadri, because he was selected high, people want instant results. Unfairly.

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04-28-2012, 07:16 AM
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His highest upside is 70-80 points, IMO but I have a feeling he will likely end up as a top six 60-70 point player throughout his NHL career. I like the gritty Rebeiro comparison.

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I have him pegged for tyler ennis numbers realistically for next season if he makes the team, if not. Logan Couture/Claude Giroux-esque numbers.

I believe he can be the top line center still. Let's hope it happens.
I was thinking 45-50 points next year as well on Grabo's wing, maybe even more depending on how Grabo does and who the other linemate is.

I know Naz has the skill to be a top line center, I just want to see him get some more strength so hes not knocked off the puck so easy, and more of a commitment to defense. I've seen him commit to d, if he can just do it every game, even when hes not playing the best offensively, he could be that top line center were looking for.

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A more talented Brad Marchand, I said this yesterday, if he was to center Mac and Kule next year, he will score 50-55 pts in his first full NHL season.

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