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04-28-2012, 10:21 PM
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I agree with the sentiment of getting rid of it this year. Get it over with.

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04-28-2012, 10:23 PM
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I think they will forfeit it this year.

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04-28-2012, 10:25 PM
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What if other GMs make offers for it during the 48-hour window after the last SCF game?

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04-28-2012, 10:32 PM
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What if other GMs make offers for it during the 48-hour window after the last SCF game?
Depends completely on the offer

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04-28-2012, 10:33 PM
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Not sure who's going to make an offer for late pick within 2 days of the playoffs ending.

Is there anyway the new CBA has any bearing on this? Could the penalty be purged or something?

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04-28-2012, 10:35 PM
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Not sure who's going to make an offer for late pick within 2 days of the playoffs ending.

Is there anyway the new CBA has any bearing on this? Could the penalty be purged or something?
I doubt it could or would be purged. They knew the CBA was ending this year when that penalty was made.

Who knows though?

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04-28-2012, 10:36 PM
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I say yes, but that`s probably just a wishful thinking.

As for the draft I see the talent dropoff around the 23rd spot.

Depends. I still think it`s better to stack up the talent and wait till 2014 no matter what happens between now and then.

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04-28-2012, 10:45 PM
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If we make it to the conference finals definitely get rid of it. If we're done this round, that's a toss up, we'd be ~18th, that can still be a decent pick.

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04-28-2012, 10:59 PM
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There's a time value to draft picks. A pick this year, all else being equal, is more valuable than a pick next year.

I think if the Devils don't advance this round then the Devils will keep the pick.

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04-28-2012, 11:02 PM
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It's funny great players like Elias, and Brian Gionta were like 2nd/3rd rounders.

It's like Henrique, and Fayne low round picks, and some of our best picks at this point since Zajac, and Parise with the team in current times.

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04-28-2012, 11:37 PM
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I have an entertaining vision in my head of Parise accepting the Cup from Bettman and telling him to take his pick and shove it up his ass.
that would be the greatest thing ever

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04-29-2012, 01:27 AM
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I have an entertaining vision in my head of Parise accepting the Cup from Bettman and telling him to take his pick and shove it up his ass.

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04-29-2012, 02:18 AM
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Last year, we were a lottery team.

This year we're in the second round of the playoffs.

Minimax (or maximin?), give up this year's in case we're a lottery team next year. Talent at 18 isn't awesome anyway, we're set at forward, and our D/Goalie prospects look nice. Holler Merrill, Gelinas, Larssdawg, etc.


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04-29-2012, 03:33 AM
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Unless the Devils could trade this year's first rounder as part of a deal to bring a quality player to the team this offseason, forfeit this one. There's no guarantee the Devils will make the playoffs next year, let alone win a round again, so it's best to forfeit the pick when it'll get you the least.

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04-29-2012, 08:42 AM
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I just hope the team makes the conference Final or Cup Final and makes the decision that much easier.

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04-29-2012, 10:19 AM
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I say forfeit the pick and get it over with. The Devils are in the second round now, I think this team is only going to get better next year too

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04-29-2012, 11:28 AM
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I say forfeit the pick and get it over with. The Devils are in the second round now, I think this team is only going to get better next year too
Wouldn't that mean we should keep this pick then?

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I say yes, but that`s probably just a wishful thinking.

As for the draft I see the talent dropoff around the 23rd spot.

Depends. I still think it`s better to stack up the talent and wait till 2014 no matter what happens between now and then.
Yep. I always say that you'd rather pay your tax as late as possible barring something happening. That should stand here too.

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There's a time value to draft picks. A pick this year, all else being equal, is more valuable than a pick next year.

I think if the Devils don't advance this round then the Devils will keep the pick.
Yep which is why I'm confused why people would be interested in dumping the #18 pick potentially.

Pretty obvious which side of the fence I'm on. Dumping the pick to say we should get it over with is negligent. We'll lose the pick eventually so you should make sure it has the least amount of impact whether you want to forget about it or not. I'm hoping this team continues to progress even with cash issues and the pick position should reflect that.

Things that change my opinion:

1) We win this round against Philthy
2)Not that we'd ever know, but if Conte & Co. really love a prospect coming up in a few years and don't find anyone around their pick to be worth a selection.

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04-29-2012, 11:38 AM
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Well I'm sure we'll have an influx of ladies here now.

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04-29-2012, 01:02 PM
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The later we go, the more we should just forfeit the pick.

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05-01-2012, 03:25 PM
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If this draft isn't supposed to be strong
It's a good crop of D, but the forward depth (notably the North American born guys) is lacking. We'll have a better idea after this round is over. If we're picking ~#20, I would feel inclined to keep it.

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05-01-2012, 04:11 PM
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It's a good crop of D, but the forward depth (notably the North American born guys) is lacking. We'll have a better idea after this round is over. If we're picking ~#20, I would feel inclined to keep it.
The inverse was said about 2003.

Good crop of forwards, lack of D talent.

Suter, Phaneuf, Burns, and Seabrook ended up being taken in the 1st round.

Weber in the 2nd. Enstrom and Byfuglien in the now defunct 8th round.

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05-01-2012, 04:17 PM
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Always hard to judge but 03 was just a superb draft.

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05-01-2012, 04:27 PM
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There's a time value to draft picks. A pick this year, all else being equal, is more valuable than a pick next year.

I think if the Devils don't advance this round then the Devils will keep the pick.
Except for the fact that Zach might leave, our goaltender situation is in flux and we're in a brutal division...and by then we won't have a choice.

If we don't make the playoffs next year, the pick would absolutely be lower. If we do make the playoffs, it'd take winning two rounds to ensure it'd be much higher anyway. Giving up 18 or 19 (the way it looks like it would be heading) doesn't seem so bad when next year could easily be a top ten, unfortunately - and not very likely to be much higher than what it is now. Imagine how nuts we'd be if we 'had' to give up the pick last year and miss out on Larsson?

Of course winning one more round ends the discussion...but a lot of work to do on that.

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05-01-2012, 05:08 PM
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take another swede, or a crazy russian goalie with the pick. i mean thats what id do. but im an idiot.

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05-01-2012, 05:19 PM
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take another swede, or a crazy russian goalie with the pick. i mean thats what id do. but im an idiot.
What about a fellow Finn? That's what we're really lacking!

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