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05-24-2012, 10:52 AM
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I wanted to go to this draft but not if we don't pick til round 2 late...

But I expect us to drop this pick as its a final 3 pick and there is nothing to say we will be here in the next 2 years. Also, there is such crazy movement in the draft this year that Lou could potentially have his guy in the 2nd and just have to trade up to snag him if need be.

Wish we signed more NCAA FAs to offset this loss though, but I guess thats why they also have UFA so whatev

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05-24-2012, 11:31 AM
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Just to update, the Devils will forfeit one of picks 27, 29, or 30. With Phoenix (division winner) losing, 28 is no longer possible.

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How appropriate would it be to forfeit the 30 pick the same year #30 retires in victory after hoisting his 4th cup? Almost poetic.

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05-24-2012, 12:17 PM
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How appropriate would it be to forfeit the 30 pick the same year #30 retires in victory after hoisting his 4th cup? Almost poetic.
You forgot about one #30.

Shame on you.

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05-24-2012, 12:39 PM
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Is this the 30th anniversary year of the team in NJ, or was that last season?

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05-24-2012, 12:43 PM
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How appropriate would it be to forfeit the 30 pick the same year #30 retires in victory after hoisting his 4th cup? Almost poetic.
... with 15 of our fans at the draft giving Bettman the finger with both hands

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05-24-2012, 12:49 PM
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Is this the 30th anniversary year of the team in NJ, or was that last season?
this year. And also using the 4th pick overall to help get our 4th cup? Ooooh numerology gone wild. LOL


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05-24-2012, 01:26 PM
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... with 15 of our fans at the draft giving Bettman the finger with both hands
Hahaha brilliant

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05-24-2012, 01:33 PM
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... with 15 of our fans at the draft giving Bettman the finger with both hands
17 fans?

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05-24-2012, 02:08 PM
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Is this the 30th anniversary year of the team in NJ, or was that last season?
Some teams celebrate seasons, some celebrate anniversaries (which theoretically should not occur in the same season). Thanks to the lockout, 2012-13 is both the 30th season and 30th anniversary for the Devils.

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05-24-2012, 02:14 PM
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17 fans?
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05-24-2012, 04:17 PM
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this year. And also using the 4th pick overall to help get our 4th cup? Ooooh numerology gone wild. LOL

Take notice of the part of that wallpaper that reads

30
1982-2012

Watch numerology go even wilder:

30-1-9-8-2-2-0-1-2 = 5

Our 4th pick overall, which hopefully gets us our 4th cup, wears #5, and hopefully gets us our 5th Stanley Cup Finals appearance.

This all comes together in the 30th anniversary of the franchise in New Jersey, with the retirement of future HoF, #30.













But not all related to #5 is good. Brian Rolston was due for a $5 million payday this season, and we had to get rid of that. So take this for what it's worth.

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05-24-2012, 04:22 PM
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Do you think Marty will retire if he wins the cup?

He said as recent as earlier in this series he's having a lot of fun, and wants to come back. Will that have any bearing on it?

Any thoughts?

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05-24-2012, 04:25 PM
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Who knows, but at his age if he goes out he isn't coming back. He can't pull an Andy Pettite. I say he's back unless he wins the Cup, then all bets are off...but I do think he'd rather expend everything he has and go out on his shield rather than pull a John Elway and ride the high horse out.

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05-24-2012, 04:26 PM
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Do you think Marty will retire if he wins the cup?

He said as recent as earlier in this series he's having a lot of fun, and wants to come back. Will that have any bearing on it?

Any thoughts?
I think he will retire if we do win the cup, but I also think he, Moose and Lou will have a long talk regarding our goalie situation before he decides anything. I can see him returning anyway if Lou isn't at ease with trying to fill the gap with the current UFA crop of goalies and/or our prospects.

One of Marty or Moose will retire, but certainly not both.

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05-24-2012, 04:27 PM
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If we win the Cup, I could see him retiring on top. Good way to go out.

Or he might think he has some gas left in the tank and come back to mentor his replacement.

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05-24-2012, 04:30 PM
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If we win the Cup, I could see him retiring on top. Good way to go out.

Or he might think he has some gas left in the tank and come back to mentor his replacement.
Could have said the same about Tim Thomas, but that was another situation where the veteran looks at the tandem in place without him and decided that the TEAM needed him to fill in for another year. And even then, they had to ride out part of the season with Marty Turco.

Marty's a team guy, he won't retire on top just for ***** and giggles if it handicaps the future of the franchise.

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05-24-2012, 04:55 PM
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I'd rather see us sign a UFA who has NHL experience that Marty can mentor, and then after he's gone make Kinkaid the backup.

I really don't wanna see Kinkaid backing up Marty especially if Marty is injured, and all we have to start with is Kinkaid. I also don't wanna someone like Vokoun, or Turco or Biron, or Brent Johnson either backing up Marty. If that's the case I'd bring back Hedberg.

LOL on the topic of Turco, and Boston he was awful when he played those few games for them. I know the whole team was breaking down, and even Thomas wasn't bulletproof anymore, but my god he sucked! I have a feeling Vokoun will be in similar shape in no time.

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05-24-2012, 04:59 PM
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... with 15 of our fans at the draft giving Bettman the finger with both hands
Bettman sucks chants when he announces that we forfeit our pick? Now that`d be awesome.

Would love to see a photo of that too. haha

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05-24-2012, 05:04 PM
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If we win I fully expect Marty to come back. Dude loves to play, and he really loves to win.

If he keeps winning I'd think he'll play till 50.

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05-24-2012, 05:43 PM
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If he comes back, and plays as good as he did for the last half of the season, and for almost all of these playoffs he can really rack up the wins, and provided he stays healthy. I think he can win 38-40 games next year depending on how many starts he gets. Remember he was injured for 3 weeks, and wasn't playing at all the from the 3rd game of the season until early November.

He wasn't playing very good at all at that time. Injury might have had something to do with it though I don't know. He was making at least one really big highlight reel save a game, but giving up a softy almost every game those couple months. That's why I'm afraid Kinkaid will be our only option if he has to start 3 weeks or more like that again. Marty was also injured in 2010/2011, and missed some time. We got lucky with Clemmensen, but remember he had NHL experience, and was much older, and had a lot more playing experience overall. He was also god awful in his first few games after Marty went down. Didn't we lose 5 in a row after he was gone between Clemmer, and Weekes? Sometimes we even had to score 5 goals a night too just to win games.

Sorry for derailing. Just seen a lot of talk that people think Marty will retire if we go all the way as of late.

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05-24-2012, 06:20 PM
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If there's a lockout Marty may retire, if the Devils win it all (too early for this convo) I think he plays another season for a chance to pass Roy for Cups won, and to win consecutive Cups which hasn't happened since Pittsburgh 91-92 I believe and he would match my childhood hero Bernie Parent, and to pass Detroit who have won 4 Cups in his career.

Not even gonna get into Conn Smythe as I believe Quick or Brown has already won a la Giguere, but I still drream he gets at least one before he hangs them up.

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05-24-2012, 06:27 PM
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Detroit won consecutive Cups in the late 90s. 97 and 98, I believe.

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Detroit won consecutive Cups in the late 90s. 97 and 98, I believe.
Yes they did.

LOL Quick, and Brown already Conn Smythe!

In our third series I don't know who's been our MVP? Kovy has a point per game, Marty is playing really good, but his numbers aren't like Lundqvist and Quick's, Zajac is having a good post season. Salvador is having a good post season in a Scott Stevens sense, and an offensive sense. 4th line is real good. Who the hell knows?

As far as lockout goes if it's a year long Marty will retire like Scott Stevens did after missing a year. If it's until mid season like 95, and he's already signed, and contracted to play here I think he plays for sure if not just to take one for the team since we would have no other options in net as all the good goaltenders would be off the market.

Hopefully there is none of that BS again. Bettman should step down if that happens. Third time in 18 years, and second time in 8 years? GHTFO!

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