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05-01-2012, 01:49 AM
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Hockey Prospectus top 125

In my opinion it's a strange list...but I mean it's different and it's something to talk about.

http://www.hockeyprospectus.com/arti...articleid=1305

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1. Nail Yakupov, Left Wing, Sarnia-OHL*
2. Mikhail Grigorenko, Center, Quebec-QMJHL*
3. Alexander Galchenyuk, Center, Sarnia-OHL*
4. Filip Forsberg, Right Wing, Leksands-Allsvenskan*
5. Teuvo Teravainen, Left Wing, Jokerit-SM-Liiga*
6. Matt Dumba, Defense, Red Deer-WHL*
7. Morgan Rielly, Defense, Moose Jaw-WHL*
8. Ryan Murray, Defense, Everett-WHL*
9. Pontus Aberg, Left Wing, Djurgarden-SEL*
10. Radek Faksa, Center, Kitchener-OHL*
11. Sebastian Collberg, Right Wing, Frolunda-SEL*
12. Jacob Trouba, Defense, USA Under-18 National Team-USHL*
13. Cody Ceci, Defense, Ottawa-OHL*
14. Zemgus Girgensons, Center, Dubuque-USHL*
15. Griffin Reinhart, Defense, Edmonton-WHL*
16. Hampus Lindholm, Defense, Rogle-Allsvenskan*
17. Anton Slepyshev, Left Wing, Novokuznetsk-KHL*
18. Tomas Hertl, Center, HC Slavia Praha-Czech Extraliga*
19. Matt Finn, Defense, Guelph-OHL*
20. Ludvig Bystrom, Defense, MODO-SEL*
21. Olli Maatta, Defense, London-OHL
22. Nikolai Prokhorkin, Center, CSKA-MHL
23. Slater Koekkoek, Defense, Peterborough-OHL
24. Derrick Pouliot, Defense, Portland-WHL
25. Brendan Gaunce, Center, Belleville-OHL
26. Tim Bozon, Left Wing, Kamloops-WHL
27. Nicolas Kerdiles, Left Wing, USA Under-18 National Team-USHL
28. Daniil Zharkov, Right Wing, Belleville-OHL
29. Ville Pokka, Defense, Karpat-SM-Liiga
30. Scott Laughton, Center, Oshawa-OHL
31. Michael Matheson, Defense, Dubuque-USHL
32. Nikita Gusev, Left Wing, CSKA-MHL
33. Martin Frk, Right Wing, Halifax-QMJHL
34. Charles Hudon, Left Wing, Chicoutimi-QMJHL
35. Calle Andersson, Defense, Farjestad-J20 SuperElit
36. Mark Jankowski, Center, Stanstead-Quebec Prep
37. Brady Skjei, Defense, USA Under-18 National Team-USHL
38. Damon Severson, Defense, Kelowna-WHL
39. Henrik Samuelsson, Right Wing, Edmonton-WHL
40. Tanner Pearson, Right Wing, Barrie-OHL
41. Stefan Matteau, Left Wing, USA Under-18 National Team-USHL
42. Bogdan Yakimov, Center, Nizhnekamsk-MHL
43. Nathan Walker, Left Wing, Vitkovice-Czech Extraliga
44. Troy Bourke, Left Wing, Prince George-WHL
45. Arturs Gavrus, Left Wing, Owen Sound-OHL
46. Mike Winther, Center, Prince Albert-WHL
47. Jordan Schmaltz, Defense, Green Bay-USHL
48. Gemel Smith, Center, Owen Sound-OHL
49. Brian Hart, Right Wing, Phillips Exeter-US High School
50. Austin Cangelosi, Center, Youngstown-USHL
51. Austin Czarnik, Center, Miami University-CCHA
52. Dillon Fournier, Defense, Rouyn-Noranda-QMJHL
53. Jarrod Maidens, Center, Owen Sound-OHL
54. Phil DiGiuseppe, Left Wing, University of Michigan-CCHA
55. Erik Karlsson, Left Wing, Frolunda-J20 SuperElit
56. Jimmy Vesey, Left Wing, South Shore-EJHL
57. Dylan Blujus, Defense, Brampton-OHL
58. Dalton Thrower, Defense, Saskatoon-WHL
59. Cristoval Nieves, Center, Kent-US High School
60. Tomas Hyka, Right Wing, Gatineau-QMJHL
61. Denis Kamaev, Right Wing, Rouyn-Noranda-QMJHL
62. Scott Kosmachuk, Right Wing, Guelph-OHL
63. Chandler Stephenson, Left Wing, Regina-WHL
64. Andrei Vasilevski, Goaltender, Ufa-MHL*
65. Seth Griffith, Left Wing, London-OHL
66. Zakhar Arzamastsev, Defense, Mettalurg-KHL
67. Erik Thorell, Center, Farjestad-SEL
68. Jake McCabe, Defense, University of Wisconsin-WCHA
69. Andreas Athanasiou, Left Wing, London-OHL
70. Patrick Sieloff, Defense, USA Under-18 National Team-USHL
71. Dane Fox, Center, Erie-OHL
72. Kevin Roy, Center, Lincoln-USHL
73. Alexander Barabanov, Right Wing, SKA 1946-MHL
74. Christoph Bertschy, Center, Bern-NLA
75. Esa Lindell, Defense, Jokerit-Jr. A SM-Liiga
76. Chris Calnan, Right Wing, Nobles-US High School
77. Thomas Wilson, Right Wing, Plymouth-OHL*
78. Colton Sissons, Right Wing, Kelowna-WHL*
79. Malcolm Subban, Goaltender, Belleville-OHL*
80. Matia Marcantuoni, Right Wing, Kitchener-OHL
81. Steven Hodges, Center, Victoria-WHL
82. Raphael Bussieres, Left Wing, Baie-Comeau-QMJHL
83. Vince Hinostraza, Center, Waterloo-USHL
84. Jeremy Boyce-Rotevall, Left Wing, Timra-SEL
85. Nick Ebert, Defense, Windsor-OHL
86. Brady Vail, Center, Windsor-OHL
87. Coda Gordon, Left Wing, Swift Current-WHL
88. Matt Grzelcyk, Defense, USA Under-18 National Team-USHL
89. Dominik Volek, Right Wing, Regina-WHL
90. Joey Laleggia, Defense, University of Denver-WCHA
91. Alex Basso, Defense, Sarnia-OHL
92. Niklas Tikkinen, Defense, Blues-Jr. A SM-Liiga
93. Adam Pelech, Defense, Erie-OHL
94. Mikko Vainonen, Defense, HIFK-Jr. A SM-Liiga
95. Ben Johnson, Center, Windsor-OHL
96. Trevor Carrick, Defense, Mississauga-OHL
97. Mikko Lehtonen, Defense, TPS- Jr. A SM-Liiga
98. Lukas Sutter, Center, Saskatoon-WHL
99. Brian Cooper, Defense, Fargo-USHL
100. Emil Lundberg, Left Wing, Sodertalje-Allsvenskan
101. Tanner Richard, Center, Guelph-OHL
102. Brendan Collier, Left Wing, Malden Catholic-US High School
103. Vyacheslav Osnovin, Center, Chelyabinsk-MHL
104. Daniel O'Regan, Center, St. Sebastian School-US High School
105. James Melindy, Defense, Moncton-QMJHL
106. Riley Barber, Right Wing, USA Under-18 National Team-USHL
107. Robert Baillargeon, Center, Indiana-USHL
108. Matej Beran, Center, PEI-QMJHL
109. Quentin Shore, Center, USA Under-18 National Team-USHL
110. Anton Zlobin, Right Wing, Shawinigan-QMJHL
111. Ryan Culkin, Defense, Quebec-QMJHL
112. Matt Lane, Center, USA Under-18 National Team-USHL
113. Alexei Bereglazov, Defense, Magnitogorsk-MHL
114. Connor Carrick, Defense, USA Under-18 National Team-USHL
115. Alexei Fillipov, Right Wing, Chelyabinsk-MHL
116. Jesse Graham, Defense, Niagara-OHL
117. Chris Tierney, Center, London-OHL
118. Gianluca Curcuruto, Defense, Sault Ste. Marie-OHL
119. Frank Vatrano, Center, USA Under-18 National Team-USHL
120. Brendan Troock, Right Wing, Seattle-WHL
121. Arseni Khatsei, Center, Spartak-MHL
122. Brett Kulak, Defense, Vancouver-WHL
123. Henri Ikonen, Left Wing, Kalpa- Jr.A SM-Liiga
124. Joakim Ryan, Defense, Cornell-ECAC
125. Michal Plutnar, Defense, Tri City-WHL

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If anyone has any questions feel free to ask, I'll do my best to answer.

Detailed ranking explanations + reports for the top ten will go up this week, as well as for all other players with an asterisk next to their name within the next few weeks. Also the introduction covers a lot of my processes.

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Maybe I'm out of the loop but is Teravainen the real deal? seems like he's jumped up a lot. Also, Murray the third best defensive prospect? can't see him getting passed over that many times.

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Wilson at 77 and Sissons at 78?

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Maybe I'm out of the loop but is Teravainen the real deal? seems like he's jumped up a lot. Also, Murray the third best defensive prospect? can't see him getting passed over that many times.
Same was said about Fowler in his draft year...

You can never be to sure when draft day OFFICIALLY hits. It just takes one GM to like one prospect more than another and the entire "script" can flip.

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Aberg at ninth?

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It looks like more of an actual hockey ability rank than a draft order guess?

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Same was said about Fowler in his draft year...

You can never be to sure when draft day OFFICIALLY hits. It just takes one GM to like one prospect more than another and the entire "script" can flip.
Dude, where are you whenever someone says "no way Galchenyuk falls to 6-10'?

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Dude, where are you whenever someone says "no way Galchenyuk falls to 6-10'?
I try to read what I can but the consensus is usually that Galchenyuk won't fall. Given his injury, however, it is very possible that he does.

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Someone fill me in on Teravainen

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uhh...? whose Teuvo Teravainen and why is he ahead of Matthew Dumb

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uhh...? whose Teuvo Teravainen and why is he ahead of Matthew Dumb
http://lastwordonsports.com/2012/04/...vo-teravainen/

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I'm not too sure about Teravainen, he has 40gp 11g-6a in some beer league. Is he physical ?

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If anyone has any questions feel free to ask, I'll do my best to answer.

Detailed ranking explanations + reports for the top ten will go up this week, as well as for all other players with an asterisk next to their name within the next few weeks. Also the introduction covers a lot of my processes.
On the MHL official site Bogdan Yakimov DoB is listed as Oct 4, 1994. Also this date was noted on IIHF site - http://stats.iihf.com/Hydra/292/RUS/...410199401.html
So then he should not be eligible for the NHL Draft-2012?

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I like it alot. Teravainen is going to be picked high, when I see people rate Gaunce over him I roll my eyes

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Oscar Dansk?

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Oscar Dansk?
Thinking the same thing...the 2 other main goalies are ranked very low....

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Maybe I'm out of the loop but is Teravainen the real deal? seems like he's jumped up a lot. Also, Murray the third best defensive prospect? can't see him getting passed over that many times.
Corey Pronman has been down on Murray for a while, he has said before that he sees Murray as no more than a decent #2 or a good #3 defenseman.

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I'm not too sure about Teravainen, he has 40gp 11g-6a in some beer league. Is he physical ?
He's not really physical, although he can handle physical play quite well. He's very slightly build, so we'll see how physical he'll be when he adds some muscle to his frame.

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I'm not too sure about Teravainen, he has 40gp 11g-6a in some beer league. Is he physical ?
That beer league is Finnish Elite League which is the 3rd/4th best league in the world.

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That beer league is Finnish Elite League which is the 3rd/4th best league in the world.
Well your opinion is obviously gonna be biased because youre finish but its clear that the north american junior leagues have a better skill level than the european "elite" leagues

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Well your opinion is obviously gonna be biased because youre finish but its clear that the north american junior leagues have a better skill level than the european "elite" leagues
You'd include the SEL in this right?

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Surprised to see the amount of players out of Russia.

Anton Slepyshev, Nikolai Prokhorkin, Andrei Vasilievski and Nikita Gusev are probably locks, but there was others at the list ranked pretty well: Zakhar Arzamastsev, Alexander Barabanov, Alexei Bereglazov, Alexei Filippov, Arseni Khatsei, Vyacheslav Osnovin and Bogdan Yakimov.

I will be happy if the pattern with the Russian-based players is changing, but some of those players are not CSS Ranked, and others are ranked pretty low. I'm surprised with the big differences between both lists.

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On the MHL official site Bogdan Yakimov DoB is listed as Oct 4, 1994. Also this date was noted on IIHF site - http://stats.iihf.com/Hydra/292/RUS/...410199401.html
So then he should not be eligible for the NHL Draft-2012?
When I originally looked him up it said April 11 1994

http://eliteprospects.com/player.php?player=117749

I was suspicious of that though, I will address it.

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Well your opinion is obviously gonna be biased because youre finish but its clear that the north american junior leagues have a better skill level than the european "elite" leagues
you cant be taken seriously, so i do

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