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Edmonton will get better offers from elsewhere for it's 1st round pick. Also, Markov wouldn't hold much value for Edmonton to do a deal I think. Edmonton are looking for a young, top pairing D-man. He's not that.
Nathan Beaulieu deal is closer - but not by much. He might be a good D-man for the Saint John Sea Dogs but there's no telling wether he'll be able to become a top pairing D for an NHL team. Any deal involving Montreal would have to include Subban I reckon.
Edmonton will get better offers from elsewhere for it's 1st round pick. Also, Markov wouldn't hold much value for Edmonton to do a deal I think. Edmonton are looking for a young, top pairing D-man. He's not that.
Nathan Beaulieu deal is closer - but not by much. He might be a good D-man for the Saint John Sea Dogs but there's no telling wether he'll be able to become a top pairing D for an NHL team. Any deal involving Montreal would have to include Subban I reckon.
Please tell me you are joking. Please! Montreal would not trade Subban for the 1st overall straight up! What the heck would we be adding for?!?!
We also would have no need to trade Beaulieu as a piece to move TWO spots to draft a guy for a non essential need position when we can stay at #3 and get the center we NEED!!! I HATE these damned Edm-Mon trades because they always forget that Montreal NEEDS a center with size and skill, not some random piece that might work on scouting charts out of touch with Montreal's contextual needs.
The only way Bergevin trades for the #1 overall is if he feels it is necessary to make a huge splash, and from what I have seen of him in Chicago, and heard about him, that is not going to happen.
So, NO Subban or anything else from Montreal for the #1.
I'm not seeing any reason for either team to do this one.
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Edmonton will get better offers from elsewhere for it's 1st round pick. Also, Markov wouldn't hold much value for Edmonton to do a deal I think. Edmonton are looking for a young, top pairing D-man. He's not that.
Nathan Beaulieu deal is closer - but not by much. He might be a good D-man for the Saint John Sea Dogs but there's no telling wether he'll be able to become a top pairing D for an NHL team. Any deal involving Montreal would have to include Subban I reckon.
The Habs say no to the OP's proposal so i don't think there's any chance that we trade Subban alone for the Oilers 1st let alone throw in our 1st.
Yak is not who we are looking to draft especially if it's going to cost us any assets.
Habs are just fine having the 3rd overall pick. We get what we want-need and don't give any assets away.
For you Oiler fans.Your not getting Subban or our 1st rd pick. Go find some other team that might be willing to overpay for that pick.
Just draft Yak yourself. I'm sure the next 4 teams in the draft order are just fine with who they are going to get.
Oilers are better to keep the #1 pick because oilers fans are going to be so sad. Tambelini knows he is not going to get a game breaker to move a few spot down. If you look at the 3-4 last drafts, it is pretty unclear who was the best pick and picking 1st is not a guaranty you'll get the best player. Yakupov seems like having an edge but I wouldn't be surprised to see #2-3-4 overall pick turning out to be the better player. Forget about swapping picks with another lotery team and landing a nhl ready top player. Swap + Johanssen or Swap + Subban are just lame proposal. I wouldn't trade Beaulieu nor Tinordi in this kind of swap. So keep your pick or trade it for NHL value player (Established top 2 Dman for example or most likely established top 4 Dman + pick)
The Habs say no to the OP's proposal so i don't think there's any chance that we trade Subban alone for the Oilers 1st let alone throw in our 1st.
Yak is not who we are looking to draft especially if it's going to cost us any assets.
Habs are just fine having the 3rd overall pick. We get what we want-need and don't give any assets away.
For you Oiler fans.Your not getting Subban or our 1st rd pick. Go find some other team that might be willing to overpay for that pick.
Just draft Yak yourself. I'm sure the next 4 teams in the draft order are just fine with who they are going to get.
the Oilers aren't THAT desperate for Subban, and in no way shape or form is Subban worth the 1st overall
the Oilers aren't THAT desperate for Subban, and in no way shape or form is Subban worth the 1st overall
Go check out all the threads involving the Oilers 1st rd pick.
In all the threads the Oilers are being turned down at every possible corner. Why because they think they are going to get X player who is usually better or = to their 1st rd pick and than they want that teams 1st rd pick thrown in.
It's not going to happen. The Oilers won the draft now it seems your STUCK with that pick.You Guys keep trying to trade down but no other teams want anything to do with you guys.
I guess the Oilers are right and everyone else is wrong.
Edmonton stays with their pick and drafts eithor yakupov or Murray. Will not trade down in case they lose out on these guys unless of course that they are blown away with this offer.
This thread is stupid and you should feel bad.
Furthermore I truly believe they should draft Murray because he is amazing and what they need.
In no way is yakupov>>>>>Murray and there can be an argument made that Murray>Yakupov and his performance at the worlds could support this opinion
Gives Edmonton a solid top 4 D (can play a shutdown style) with a decent cap hit 3.9. At #3 can still get a great prospect. Ideally Murray, to add a great D prospect to their prospect pool.
Edmonton might have to add a bit. However they have forward prospects that they could add.
It might not be a sexy trade, but Gorges is a good solid D and the #3 pick is still high enough to draft a top prospect. Gorges is still young enough (28) that he can contribute over the life of his current contract (6 yrs at 3.9). It also address's Edmonton's needs, and could be something that Montreal would actually accept (I don't see them accepting many trades that involve Subban).
Montreal does it as it gives them a top end offensive prospect.
Value wise, I agree that Beaulieu and our 1st for the 1st overall is fair. I just do not think it is worth Montreal's while because Yakupov is small, not very physical, has had 2 concussions already, and is a winger rather than a center.
No offence to Oiler fans, I wish you luck with your pick. I just do not want your pick, I am happy with the one Montreal has. Fair?
Gives Edmonton a solid top 4 D (plays more of a shutdown style) with a decent cap hit 3.9. At #3 can still get a great prospect. Ideally Murray, to add a great D prospect to their prospect pool.
It might not be a sexy trade, but Gorges is a good solid D and the #3 pick is still high enough to draft a top prospect. It also address's Edmonton's needs, and could be something that Montreal would actually accept (I don't see them accepting many trades that involve Subban).
People. The Habs are not trading any and i say any assets to move up from the 3rd overall to the 1st over.The Habs want-need a center not a winger.Trading up is not a reasonable option for the Habs.
If the Oilers want to trade down find another partner.There is nothing reasonable that the Oilers can offer that would make the Habs trade up.
No your not getting any assets and we are not interrested in spare parts like Gagner,Paajarvi etc...
The Habs say no to the OP's proposal so i don't think there's any chance that we trade Subban alone for the Oilers 1st let alone throw in our 1st.
Go find some other team that might be willing to overpay for that pick.
