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05-19-2012, 02:34 PM
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Which trade hurts more...

I'm watching today's Rangers/Devils game and Ryan McDonagh is quickly turning into a stud defenceman. He's a future all star for sure! So out of all the players the Habs traded away in the past 20 years, which one stings the most?

John Leclair and Eric Desjardins for Mark Recchi?
Patrick Roy and Mike Keane for Thibeault, Kovalenko and Rucinski?
Mike Ribeiro for Ninnimaa (sp?)?
Ryan McDonagh and Chris Higgins for Scott Gomez?

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05-19-2012, 02:36 PM
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I'm watching today's Rangers/Devils game and Ryan McDonagh is quickly turning into a stud defenceman. He's a future all star for sure! So out of all the players the Habs traded away in the past 20 years, which one stings the most?

John Leclair and Eric Desjardins for Mark Recchi?
Patrick Roy and Mike Keane for Thibeault, Kovalenko and Rucinski?
Mike Ribeiro for Ninnimaa (sp?)?
Ryan McDonagh and Chris Higgins for Scott Gomez?
Patrick Roy trade and its not even close.

We have our own Mcdonaugh in Gorges, but the gomez return is what makes that trade horrible.

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Roy trade, no contest.

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Roy trade, no contest.
Roy is the worse then I would say Chelios trade. McDo is great but Chelios was a beast.

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Roy is the worse then I would say Chelios trade. McDo is great but Chelios was a beast.
What this guy said.

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I'm watching today's Rangers/Devils game and Ryan McDonagh is quickly turning into a stud defenceman. He's a future all star for sure! So out of all the players the Habs traded away in the past 20 years, which one stings the most?

John Leclair and Eric Desjardins for Mark Recchi?
Patrick Roy and Mike Keane for Thibeault, Kovalenko and Rucinski?
Mike Ribeiro for Ninnimaa (sp?)?
Ryan McDonagh and Chris Higgins for Scott Gomez?
There is no comparison to the harm caused by the "Running St.Patrick out of Town"most people don't know who McDonagh is or that he was a 12th pick overall for the Habs.

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McDonagh was the best prospect in the habs system (yes better than Subban) and he was traded in order to ACQUIRE Gomez. That is by far the worst trade... the Roy situation is completely different. He demanded a trade... getting less value for him is expected (although not that low.

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05-19-2012, 02:51 PM
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McDonagh was the best prospect in the habs system (yes better than Subban) and he was traded in order to ACQUIRE Gomez. That is by far the worst trade... the Roy situation is completely different. He demanded a trade... getting less value for him is expected (although not that low.
Mcdonaugh is not better than Subban.

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I'm watching today's Rangers/Devils game and Ryan McDonagh is quickly turning into a stud defenceman. He's a future all star for sure! So out of all the players the Habs traded away in the past 20 years, which one stings the most?

John Leclair and Eric Desjardins for Mark Recchi?
Patrick Roy and Mike Keane for Thibeault, Kovalenko and Rucinski?
Mike Ribeiro for Ninnimaa (sp?)?
Ryan McDonagh and Chris Higgins for Scott Gomez?
Everytime somebody posts about trading our first for a player like Staal, I say look at McDonagh and Carlson. There's that is what you get trading first round draft picks for quick fixes.

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Roy is the worse then I would say Chelios trade. McDo is great but Chelios was a beast.
What kinda odd is Timmins compared McDonagh to Chelios after drafting him.

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Roy is always in the discussion for greatest goalie of all time. I don't see how it's close.

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didn't we have this same type of thread a couple months ago

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Roy is always in the discussion for greatest goalie of all time. I don't see how it's close.
This thread pops up twice a year (or more)...

The Roy trade was the worst.

Over and out.

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Mcdonaugh is not better than Subban.
1. I said better prospect
2. Yes he is

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I'm watching today's Rangers/Devils game and Ryan McDonagh is quickly turning into a stud defenceman. He's a future all star for sure! So out of all the players the Habs traded away in the past 20 years, which one stings the most?

John Leclair and Eric Desjardins for Mark Recchi?
Patrick Roy and Mike Keane for Thibeault, Kovalenko and Rucinski?
Mike Ribeiro for Ninnimaa (sp?)?
Ryan McDonagh and Chris Higgins for Scott Gomez?
You could add Chelios for Denis Savard
Turgeon for Corson
Carbonneau for Montgomery (Who ?)


Roy, Ribeiro, Higgins, Chelios, Carbonneau were all traded for weird reasons, not related to their skills and/or production.

Turgeon & Desjardins, two very talented and productive guys.

LeClair and McDonagh... Well... Ayoye !!!!

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Tough to compare since Leclair used to haunt the Habs, beating them constantly.

With Roy, at least he was in another conference winning his cups and playing like the great goaltender he was.... Ditto Chelios.

They all hurt, but Roy was the worst. The fact that they threw Mike Keane who was a solid player and a good captain in with Roy to boot, was also a kick in the nether region.

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05-19-2012, 03:13 PM
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Mcdonaugh is not better than Subban.
They are not the same type of D. But if I had to choose between them two to play on my team, I'd pick McDonagh.

This trade hurts big time but not as much as the Roy trade. The Roy trade is the kind of Babe Ruth Curse type of trade...

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They are not the same type of D. But if I had to choose between them two to play on my team, I'd pick McDonagh.

This trade hurts big time but not as much as the Roy trade. The Roy trade is the kind of Babe Ruth Curse type of trade...
We can just speculate and pretend that McDonagh would not had been as good in Montreal than in NY. He could still be playing in Hamilton. As Tortorella said, McDo had a crash course at NHL level because of the many injuries to the regular Rangers D-men. Do you really think that Martin would had given McDo so much ice time ?

But...

McDo is a way safer d-man than PK, and he is as good as a skater.

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We wouldn't have the 3rd overall, had McDonagh been on the team. You win some, you loose some.

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We wouldn't have the 3rd overall, had McDonagh been on the team. You win some, you loose some.
I would trade this 3rd overall for McDonagh anytime...

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Dead horse, meet stick.

Stick, meet dead horse.

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We can just speculate and pretend that McDonagh would not had been as good in Montreal than in NY. He could still be playing in Hamilton. As Tortorella said, McDo had a crash course at NHL level because of the many injuries to the regular Rangers D-men. Do you really think that Martin would had given McDo so much ice time ?

But...

McDo is a way safer d-man than PK, and he is as good as a skater.
That's another thing. Comparing Tortorella and Martin is also painful. While Tortorella doesn't hesitate to bench Gaborik an entire 3rd period during a CSF game, Martin kept playing MONSIEUR Gomez during every crucial moment at the end of games...

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Stop crying about McDonagh. It's payback for getting Kovalev for Balej. **** like this happens all the time.

And McDonagh is awesome, but he's not better than Subban. Defensively, sure, but offensively, it's not really close.

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Stop crying about McDonagh. It's payback for getting Kovalev for Balej. **** like this happens all the time.

And McDonagh is awesome, but he's not better than Subban. Defensively, sure, but offensively, it's not really close.
32 points for McDonagh compared to Subban's 36 is pretty close in my books.

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Stop crying about McDonagh. It's payback for getting Kovalev for Balej. **** like this happens all the time.

And McDonagh is awesome, but he's not better than Subban. Defensively, sure, but offensively, it's not really close.
Agreed on both counts. It sucks, but we would've been pretty ****ed for giving up Plek too.

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