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05-04-2012, 02:22 PM
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Red Wings @ World Hockey Championships 2012


Tournament infoMain website (results, schedule, stats): http://www.iihf.com/

Stream: http://www.youtube.com/user/2ndvenue2


Red Wings players
Team Players
Sweden Zetterberg, Franzen, Kronwall, Ericsson, Järnkrok
Russia Datsyuk
USA Howard, Abdelkader
Canada Quincey
Finland Filppula
Slovakia Tatar


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To discuss the WC in Finland/Sweden, particularily Red Wings players/prospects.

I'm watching Sweden-Norway right now. Jarnkrok mucking it up and Kruger just scored from a nice Hjalmarsson pass.

Tatar scored a goal for Slovakia in a 3-2 loss against Canada.

Jarnkrok assisted on Silfverberg's PP goal. Zetterberg picking up where he left off, and forechecking like crazy.


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Howard was in net in a 7-2 win against France (trololol). Abdelkader played too.

Kronwall brothers on the same pairing. I thought Steffan was a forward? Nik makes a good defensive play to stop Norway on a 2v3.

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Stalberg-Kruger-Alfredsson line globetrotting it. Awesome puck possession and still getting shots off.

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Zetterberg hits the post.

Russia and Datsyuk will be playing tomorrow btw.

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Mule taking a high-sticking penalty. Nothing new.

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Howard (21 saves) in net for Team USA's rout over France yesterday...Abdelkader with no points but won 9 of 11 draws.

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Howard (21 saves) in net for Team USA's rout over France yesterday...Abdelkader with no points but won 9 of 11 draws.
yesterday? the WC started today.

although i think it was 5am your time.

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What I would do to see Jarnkrok play with Zetterberg...

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Franzen on the PK. It's official, pigs can fly.

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Franzen on the PK. It's official, pigs can fly.
Franzen started off his career on the PK and was playing 1:34 on the PK when the Wings won the cup. It's too bad that he got pigeon holed into a different role, I think it's easier to become complacent when you're only playing for offense.

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3-1 Sweden. Eriksson from Zetterberg and Alfredsson.

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What I would do to see Jarnkrok play with Zetterberg...
I really think Jarnkrok needs to come over next season, especially if he comes off of this summer around 185 to 190 lbs.

He is not going to grow much more over there he is already talented enough to play in the league and it allows for us to role four dominate lines with Datsyuk - Z - Jarnkrok and Helm down the middle.

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05-04-2012, 03:32 PM
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Järnkrok is #19 at Brynäs and #16 at Swedish National Team.

I wonder what number he will pick at Detroit..?

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Järnkrok is #19 at Brynäs and #16 at Swedish National Team.

I wonder what number he will pick at Detroit..?
He could combine them to make 35, or petition the league to be #1619.

Or drop the 1's and go with 69.

Based on Babcocks interview with FSD it sounds like he'd really have to impress to get a spot on the wings roster, chances are if he did come over he'd have a year in GR to pick a new number.

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He could combine them to make 35, or petition the league to be #1619.

Or drop the 1's and go with 69.

Based on Babcocks interview with FSD it sounds like he'd really have to impress to get a spot on the wings roster, chances are if he did come over he'd have a year in GR to pick a new number.
Babcock referenced him as a top 6 talent. Seems to me he is already pretty sold on him, found it interesting that he is scouting the Finland side of things.

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yesterday? the WC started today.

although i think it was 5am your time.


Today starts when I wake up...

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Babcock referenced him as a top 6 talent. Seems to me he is already pretty sold on him, found it interesting that he is scouting the Finland side of things.
he also said that guys drafted are 5-7 years away from playing in the NHL

and that he doesn't expect anyone but Nyquist or Smith having a chance to crack the line-up next season

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he also said that guys drafted are 5-7 years away from playing in the NHL

and that he doesn't expect anyone but Nyquist or Smith having a chance to crack the line-up next season
Nyquist, for sure, I think, cracks the lineup. Smith rotates in and out as the 7th defenseman, or plays the 6th d-man.

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Järnkrok is #19 at Brynäs and #16 at Swedish National Team.

I wonder what number he will pick at Detroit..?
He's playing with #16 because Zackrisson, a guy who isn't even playing, has #19.. I guess older guy gets the nod.

Thought Calle was really good. It's nice to see that he gets to run a PP unit. Alfie choosed to mention him as one of the "fun guys to watch". His line could be better though, but Landeskog is playing with a bruised hip and wasn't looking like himself. It will be a bigger test tomorrow against the Czechs.

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Franzen started off his career on the PK and was playing 1:34 on the PK when the Wings won the cup. It's too bad that he got pigeon holed into a different role, I think it's easier to become complacent when you're only playing for offense.
Or when you realize that the exact same paychecks keep showing up even if you don't move your feet and tire yourself out. Must be nice.

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Franzen started off his career on the PK and was playing 1:34 on the PK when the Wings won the cup. It's too bad that he got pigeon holed into a different role, I think it's easier to become complacent when you're only playing for offense.
I don't think I buy that Franzen got pigeonholed.
Datsyuk was showing a really strong defensive game long before Babcock put him on the PK. And when Datsyuk is removed from the PK, he still plays strong defensively.
When Franzen is lazy defensively its more of his general lack of intensity and effort than it is his being pigeonholed.

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I don't think I buy that Franzen got pigeonholed.
Datsyuk was showing a really strong defensive game long before Babcock put him on the PK. And when Datsyuk is removed from the PK, he still plays strong defensively.
When Franzen is lazy defensively its more of his general lack of intensity and effort than it is his being pigeonholed.
That's because Pavel is more disciplined than Franzen. If Franzen were to PK regularly again, and be forced to start, stop, be aggressive, etc... he'd likely be more inclined to bring that into his regular shifts. It seems that he's prone to bad habits especially when he starts slumping. PK could energize his game. Or... maybe not, but it couldn't hurt.

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I don't think I buy that Franzen got pigeonholed.
Datsyuk was showing a really strong defensive game long before Babcock put him on the PK. And when Datsyuk is removed from the PK, he still plays strong defensively.
When Franzen is lazy defensively its more of his general lack of intensity and effort than it is his being pigeonholed.
So true. I remember going to games before he "broke out" as a big playoff player and a legitimate offensive threat, and watching him and thinking that he could be soooo good. Then you see him play as if he wants it, and you are blown away. He literally has the ability to drive and deke simultaneously, and its frightening.



Imagine that stuff happening regularly. If only he desired to do it, we would be so much more potent on O.

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^So true. And his wrist shot is inhuman. He does not wind up whatsoever, he doesn't snap or smack the puck, he just flicks and it's a laser beam. If only it hit the net a little more. The guy has the potential to be a top 10 NHL player, easily. If only I could mix Helm's work ethic with Franzen's pure ability.

Alas we have a guy who is OK with not trying.

Anyone else remember the brief period when Babs tried to get Mule to "lock down" an opposing forward? I forget who it was, but I remember him doing well initially and then the whole concept fading away. I thought nothing of it. Now it makes total sense. Whole thing reeks of Franzen-do awesome for short span then say "**** it" and be lazy.

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