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ECSF Game 4: Rangers @ Caps. 12:30pm. VC. 5.5.2012 (Ninja Murphy Ringleader thread)

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05-05-2012, 06:29 PM
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05-05-2012, 06:37 PM
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and Coyote fans...FREE RAFFI!

We're just looking for consistency from the league, and not finding it.
People comparing this to the Torres hit are humiliating themselves and demontrating a total lack of understand of...everything.

There are a few exceptions where the league has blown it (looking at you, James Neal), but you can generally categorize hits by asking and answering two questions:

(1) Was it a reaction play or was it targeted? A player is always responsible for his actions, but predatory plays get handled FAR more harshly. Hammer someone behind the play? You're in dangerous territory. Line someone up from 20 feet away and deliver an illegal hit? Your chances of suspension go way up.

(2) Did the hit cause a significant injury?

If the answer to one of these is yes, there's a good chance you get suspended. If the answer to BOTH is yes, you're looking at a 3+ game suspension. If the the answer is "no" to both, you will be hard pressed to find any examples of suspensions.

There is a lot of boring debate about whether Ovechkin's PPC was the head or shoulder of Girardi, or if his foot was still on the ground vs. off by an inch. That's really secondary stuff. Fact is, the answer to both of the above quesitons is "no" on the Ovechkin plan.

As for Torres, he maxed out both categories.

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05-05-2012, 06:49 PM
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Never mind that Girardi braced for the hit while Ovechkin was still looking down at the puck. Nothing to see here, move on to Monday.

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05-05-2012, 07:12 PM
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rag fans are the biggest cry babies i have ever seen, worse then the bruins.

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05-05-2012, 07:26 PM
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Luckily he didn't go down like he was shot and stay down like Campbell did. I'd hate to see the uproar if that had happened.

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05-05-2012, 07:45 PM
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Giradi is claiming Ovy hit him in the head first. What a liar.

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05-05-2012, 08:17 PM
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Giradi is claiming Ovy hit him in the head first. What a liar.
Prior to seeing a replay, I doubt he really knew for sure one way or the other. He's just lobbying for a suspension. Can't really blame him for that.

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05-05-2012, 08:23 PM
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Just a quick shout out to Nick with the play of the game, sitting Artem on his arse proper and then beating Lundy upstairs.

Honorable mention "S turns" Sarge 9BS.....but somehow -2

The way he and Wideman both screwed up 2 times on one play is quite remarkable. A new low. So ashamed. /animal house reference

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05-05-2012, 08:32 PM
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How awesome was the passing in this game.

And John Carlson. Just beastly. Shoving people around. Playing with an edge.

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PP looked like some new plays had been added. I wanted to see Semin get Ovi's one timer spot. I did see plays for Ovi at RW. I was thrilled to assume Dale too saw what we all saw, Ovi missing badly on far too many one timers on his off wing. Nice adjustment. Lundy got there, but it was a high percentage play. Can't flub that one.

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05-05-2012, 08:38 PM
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And John Carlson. Just beastly. Shoving people around. Playing with an edge.
As I posted earlier in this thread, he is growing into a grizzled NHL playoff veteran before our eyes. Very cool to witness, and very excited about the future for that kid.

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05-05-2012, 08:50 PM
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How awesome was the passing in this game.

And John Carlson. Just beastly. Shoving people around. Playing with an edge.
He reminds me of Chris Pronger out there. Franchise D potential.

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05-05-2012, 09:02 PM
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27 and 74 have been amazing out there. When you think how young they are, sure is nice to have them on our team.

and lets not get ahead of ourselfs calling carlson pronger. I have never seen a mean streak in JC anywhere close to prongers. Still kindof funny some posters are still mad at GMGM for not trading one of them for pronger.

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05-05-2012, 09:25 PM
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How on Earth can someone BE bias? What?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/bias

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27 and 74 have been amazing out there. When you think how young they are, sure is nice to have them on our team.

and lets not get ahead of ourselfs calling carlson pronger. I have never seen a mean streak in JC anywhere close to prongers. Still kindof funny some posters are still mad at GMGM for not trading one of them for pronger.
I said he reminded my of Pronger, not that he was the "Next Pronger" or something like that.

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05-05-2012, 09:45 PM
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It's weird how both Carlson and Drew Doughty had these less-than-stellar regular seasons but have suddenly leaped back onto their development curve in the playoffs.

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05-05-2012, 09:56 PM
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Just saw a stat that Holtby is 5-0 after a playoff loss this season along with a 1.29 GAA and .959 SV%.

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05-05-2012, 10:12 PM
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Backstrom counter-hit followed by goal = pure awesome.

Schultz + Wideman on ice again for all the goals against =

I mean I can understand a coach getting tunnel vision with his favorite players like Wideman, but GMGM must see that these guys aren't cutting it...?

Great for Caps to show resiliency and even the series. What's next -- I don't think anybody knows, fun to watch!

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05-05-2012, 10:15 PM
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Ovechkin was penalized for being a bigger, stronger man. Girardi came in low and took the worst of it. Ovechkin was trying to avoid getting hit.

Caps in 6!
Yes, yes, and yes.

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05-05-2012, 10:17 PM
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Backstrom counter-hit followed by goal = pure awesome.
That was my favorite moment of the game. Especially with Anisimov literally landing on his a$$. Milbury loved it, too. It reminded me of Hendy trucking McDonagh and then making the sweet dish to Brouwer which should have ended Game 3. The full package in a single sequence -- hitting and playmaking.

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05-05-2012, 10:19 PM
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sweet screen grab. that does appear to settle it. and early reports are that the league sees it the same way.

holy crap do i want the Caps to go steal one in MSG. i want it so bad, it's gonna be hard to wait till Monday night.

this beats last year's playoffs by a country mile.

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05-05-2012, 10:21 PM
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Win fellas. Nicky and Greenie amongst others will put puck behind HL.
likely already pointed out, but ... this dude nailed it. good call.

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Never mind that Girardi braced for the hit while Ovechkin was still looking down at the puck. Nothing to see here, move on to Monday.
That's pretty much it, right there.

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I have pause whenever I see #19 and #10 on the ice.
Richards, Gaborik, and Kreider all worry me. Today fortunately Kreider came back to earth. Bad giveaway on 1st goal, and then a second late (and dropping his stick) as backstrom potted the 2nd goal.

A guy who seemed to be at the center of every key play today, both good and bad, was Anisimov. Scored the first, made the dish on the 2nd, and then got knocked on his a$$ right b4 the Caps' 2nd.

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