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05-12-2012, 03:02 PM
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05-18-2012, 12:33 PM
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Hedman had a rough WC. He was the worst Swede by far....and we had Fasth on the team, that's how bad he was.

Is Tampa thinking of getting rid of him while he still has some value?

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05-18-2012, 12:42 PM
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Hedman had a rough WC. He was the worst Swede by far....and we had Fasth on the team, that's how bad he was.

Is Tampa thinking of getting rid of him while he still has some value?
Highly doubt it. He was our best defender last year and he's only 21.

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05-18-2012, 01:54 PM
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Hedman had a rough WC. He was the worst Swede by far....and we had Fasth on the team, that's how bad he was.

Is Tampa thinking of getting rid of him while he still has some value?
We get it, you hate him. Seriously, we get it.

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05-18-2012, 02:04 PM
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We get it, you hate him. Seriously, we get it.
To be fair he was terrible against the Czech Republic.

Doesn't make him a lost cause though.

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05-18-2012, 03:06 PM
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To be fair he was terrible against the Czech Republic.

Doesn't make him a lost cause though.
Let us not forget that he was terrible at times last season in the NHL.
I hate the fact that younger d men have already passed him up.
Here's hoping he turns it all around and has a great 12-13.

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05-18-2012, 04:01 PM
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Highly doubt it. He was our best defender last year and he's only 21.
How is that possible? Watching him in the WC:s made me want to throw myself in front of a moving minivan.

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We get it, you hate him. Seriously, we get it.
I hate how bad he turned out to be after being viewed as the next Lidstrom.

His hockey smarts is on par with the average fourth line goon. So many mistakes and constantly trying to do too much. He thinks he's Erik Karlsson when in fact he's Hal Gill.

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05-18-2012, 04:11 PM
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Let us not forget that he was terrible at times last season in the NHL.
I hate the fact that younger d men have already passed him up.
Here's hoping he turns it all around and has a great 12-13.
Can you explain more about how some younger players have passed him up? I know there's players like Karlson and Fowler who have out pointed him but neither of them are considered great defensively. He can be very frustrating to watch sometimes but he also can make great plays. If he has another off year then maybe SY will have to think about what to do with him.

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05-18-2012, 04:21 PM
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He thinks he's Erik Karlsson when in fact he's Hal Gill.
Ridiculous. He can't block shots that well.

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05-18-2012, 04:24 PM
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Can you explain more about how some younger players have passed him up? I know there's players like Karlson and Fowler who have out pointed him but neither of them are considered great defensively. He can be very frustrating to watch sometimes but he also can make great plays. If he has another off year then maybe SY will have to think about what to do with him.
Karlsson, if you're willing to look past all the hype, has been below league average defensively but hides it through offensive production and o-zone possession time. Fowler looks retarded defensively on most nights right now, but has lots of room for improvement.

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05-18-2012, 05:50 PM
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Can you explain more about how some younger players have passed him up? I know there's players like Karlson and Fowler who have out pointed him but neither of them are considered great defensively. He can be very frustrating to watch sometimes but he also can make great plays. If he has another off year then maybe SY will have to think about what to do with him.
Fowler is awful defensively

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Fowler is awful defensively
He is pretty bad. Still wished he took him over Connolly. Did then, still do.

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So if he's better than Karlson and Fowler defensively, and his offensive potential hasn't been reached yet why would you want those 2 over him? I wouldn't, it's much harder to find a #1 shut down D than a PMD. We have a defensive liability who can light up the score board in MAB but nobody even wants him on the team anymore. I hope Barbero can continue to be an offensive beast and improve his defensive zone skills, I think another year in the AHL wouldn't hurt.

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05-18-2012, 09:21 PM
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So if he's better than Karlson and Fowler defensively, and his offensive potential hasn't been reached yet why would you want those 2 over him? I wouldn't, it's much harder to find a #1 shut down D than a PMD. We have a defensive liability who can light up the score board in MAB but nobody even wants him on the team anymore. I hope Barbero can continue to be an offensive beast and improve his defensive zone skills, I think another year in the AHL wouldn't hurt.
I would take Karlsson, but not Fowler... anyway, Hedman is super young still, I hope he keeps developing

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05-19-2012, 04:22 AM
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I would take Karlsson, but not Fowler... anyway, Hedman is super young still, I hope he keeps developing
Karlsson was easily better defensively than Hedman in the WC:s.

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Karlsson was easily better defensively than Hedman in the WC:s.
But you're not biased at all

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05-20-2012, 05:21 AM
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But you're not biased at all
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I think Hedman needs to have a reduced role on the club honestly. Bringing in someone that can fill that number 1 spot, and slot Hedman down to the second pair would help the team out tremendously and his career....Just my two cents.

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05-21-2012, 01:06 AM
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Nordic is just a troll, don't pay him any attention.

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Hedman's only 21...what do people expect? Especially from a defensemen. Most defenesemen break into the league around 24-25ish. The fact that he's able to play on the NHL level at 21 says enough about him right now. I think realistically he's a career #2 defensemen-and there's nothing wrong with that. Give him some time-he'll be a good one.


I do think he should be on the 2nd pairing for now, but the Lightning need to address the goaltending situation first.

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05-21-2012, 11:23 AM
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Hedman's only 21...what do people expect? Especially from a defensemen. Most defenesemen break into the league around 24-25ish. The fact that he's able to play on the NHL level at 21 says enough about him right now. I think realistically he's a career #2 defensemen-and there's nothing wrong with that. Give him some time-he'll be a good one.


I do think he should be on the 2nd pairing for now, but the Lightning need to address the goaltending situation first.
You get out of here with your logic!

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05-22-2012, 01:48 PM
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But you're not biased at all
They'e both Swedish and none of them play on a team I cheer for - where is the bias? You mean the one based on their actual performances?

You couldn't find one Swede who says that Hedman was better defensively than karlsson during the WC:s.

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Nordic is just a troll, don't pay him any attention.
You need to look up what a "troll" is before using that word.

having an opinion means you're a troll?

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You've been a Hedman hater since before his draft

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They'e both Swedish and none of them play on a team I cheer for - where is the bias? You mean the one based on their actual performances?

You couldn't find one Swede who says that Hedman was better defensively than karlsson during the WC:s.



You need to look up what a "troll" is before using that word.

having an opinion means you're a troll?
You've been circlejerking yourself since he was 16.

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They'e both Swedish and none of them play on a team I cheer for - where is the bias? You mean the one based on their actual performances?
No I think he meant the bias that you need to validate your previous Hedman bashings by using him as a scapegoat for Sweden's team failure at the WC this year.

That whole team had a lousy WC, not just Hedman.

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