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05-07-2012, 02:11 PM
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The real off season plan:

1) Sign and/or trade for multiple has-been/injury plagued pieces.
2) Reward our current crop of no-show UFA/RFA's to lucrative long term deals.
3) Blame the current NHL CBA for his inability to add quality talent.

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05-07-2012, 02:12 PM
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I'd sign penner dirt cheap if anything. There is no way in hell I'd give that guy 3mil.

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05-07-2012, 02:14 PM
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The real off season plan:

1) Sign and/or trade for multiple has-been/injury plagued pieces.
2) Reward our current crop of no-show UFA/RFA's to lucrative long term deals.
3) Blame the current NHL CBA for his inability to add quality talent.
4) find new team to cheer for?

p.s. If you go 0 for 3 here do we get to throw it in your face?

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05-07-2012, 02:16 PM
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4) find new team to cheer for?

p.s. If you go 0 for 3 here do we get to throw it in your face?
If I go 3 for 3 do I get to throw it in yours?

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05-07-2012, 02:22 PM
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If I go 3 for 3 do I get to throw it in yours?
2 & 3 are pretty unlikely.

If you get all 3 feel free to make a thread and boast.

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05-07-2012, 02:22 PM
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It wouldn't make sense going after Duchene, he wouldn't come cheap. If we could snag Stastny for cheap, I would consider it, but that is doubtful as well.

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Is that a general statement, or a comment on Cullen's roster? In his roster the 5th is kept.
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I think its a good one in my books. We get a first line center immediately off the bat. No need to wait for two years. Immediately he works with kessel and lupul.

I would ofc prefer to get him another way but I would like it tbh.
Yeah I meant no* trouble. I'd have no problem with that sort of trade. I'd love it. Don't think Colorado moves him or even considers it, but he would be a great fit in Toronto.

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05-07-2012, 02:30 PM
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2 & 3 are pretty unlikely.

If you get all 3 feel free to make a thread and boast.
#1 is a given.
Re-signing Kulemin will satisfy #2.
#3 has already happened (CBA circumventing deals/Burke moral code). Not making a move for Luongo and blaming the structure of his contract will again satisfy this.

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05-07-2012, 02:30 PM
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I can dream! lol

I am realistically expecting us to push for Stastny if anything TBH. I have said it before but I'll say it again. I really think we are going to make a push for him.
I would mind that at all, I bet Stastny would thrive here in a more prominent role.

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05-07-2012, 02:37 PM
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I'd sign penner dirt cheap if anything. There is no way in hell I'd give that guy 3mil.
We give Colby ****ing armstrong 3 mil. What makes you think Penner isn't worth 3? Don't forget that he played on a Kings roster that underachieved in regular season.

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the real off season plan:

1) sign and/or trade for multiple has-been/injury plagued pieces.
2) reward our current crop of no-show ufa/rfa's to lucrative long term deals.
3) blame the current nhl cba for his inability to add quality talent.
qft.

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#1 is a given.
Re-signing Kulemin will satisfy #2.
#3 has already happened (CBA circumventing deals/Burke moral code). Not making a move for Luongo and blaming the structure of his contract will again satisfy this.
I think that Burke has had enough and he will do anything to improve his team, even if it violates his moral code. Bottom line, it is about making this team better.

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#1 is a given.
Re-signing Kulemin will satisfy #2.
#3 has already happened (CBA circumventing deals/Burke moral code). Not making a move for Luongo and blaming the structure of his contract will again satisfy this.
#1 every player in the league is injury prone now, but you say multiple and has-been. So were are talking Connolly types => pretty unlikely

#2 I doubt any of our RFAs or UFAs get over 3 years (that fair to you?)

#3 Moral code or not would you have topped the deals Kovalchuk, Richards, Gaborik got? Can you name the other great FAs he's missed because of this moral code?

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I can dream! lol

I am realistically expecting us to push for Stastny if anything TBH. I have said it before but I'll say it again. I really think we are going to make a push for him.
Doubt the Avalanche break up that trio. Almost all top teams have a strong top three up the middle and unless his demands are outrageous next summer, he's a keeper.

Getting Duchene and O'Reilly to buy into the WIngs/Nucks hometown discount structures will be the key. The rest will follow.

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Would be pretty unreal if we got Duchene, the 5th overall plus Schenn or Gunnerson? Done!

Plus if Burke is able to trade up in the draft to say 2nd overall or 1st we could trade that to Colorado straight up for Duchene

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I would mind that at all, I bet Stastny would thrive here in a more prominent role.
Yeah a Center of Stastny's calibre has the potential to thrive here. Let's face it, as a Center you want good wingers, and to have two all star wingers at your disposal is good for business.

I would imagine a young highly motivated player would be very keen on getting that job being beside Lupul and Kessel. After all, the NHL is a business like everything else, and that's a hellova job opening and would surely represent the best opportunity to get a big pay raise in the future.

If only we can get a team to part with one.

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Who among us thinks Duchene won't cost Burke the 5th overall, and likely Kadri as well? Are we still going there?

Mixed feelings...

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Interesting he has us getting Duchene, if this was true. I would cry tears of joy. As much as I love stastny and would absolutely love him, my true hero of hockey is Sakic and there are lot of similarities in the two.

Regardless i can't wait for the off-season, will be awesome to see some changes made in the leadership department.
Matt Duchene is a Scott Cullen pipe dream, that is very unrealistic. IMO

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#1 every player in the league is injury prone now, but you say multiple and has-been. So were are talking Connolly types => pretty unlikely
If by Connolly types you mean overpaid no-shows then yes.

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#2 I doubt any of our RFAs or UFAs get over 3 years (that fair to you?)
More concerned with the annual cap hit. We've already overpaid for Graboski and Schenn. No reason not to assume that trend won't continue.

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#3 Moral code or not would you have topped the deals Kovalchuk, Richards, Gaborik got? Can you name the other great FAs he's missed because of this moral code?
I would have topped the Richards deal yes.

Would you rather pay Connolly 4.75mil and Lombardi 3.5mil (total 8.25mil) or give that 8.25mil to Richards (assuming we needed to add another few mil to lure him). No contest.

I'm fine with overpaying to acquire our teams greatest needs. Luongo is no different.

Adding Richards and Luongo in consecutive offseasons is exactly the type of moves needed to fast track a rebuild.

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05-07-2012, 02:59 PM
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Hard to argue with any of this.
I would question how somebody gets paid for writing this?

Has this exact article basically word for word already been written about 75 times by posters on this site?

It basically just states the obvious, which has been discussed to death on here.

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If by Connolly types you mean overpaid no-shows then yes.



More concerned with the annual cap hit. We've already overpaid for Graboski and Schenn. No reason not to assume that trend won't continue.



I would have topped the Richards deal yes.

Would you rather pay Connolly 4.75mil and Lombardi 3.5mil (total 8.25mil) or give that 8.25mil to Richards (assuming we needed to add another few mil to lure him). No contest.

I'm fine with overpaying to acquire our teams greatest needs. Luongo is no different.
You know what they say about hindsight. Plus Lombardi wasn't a UFA.

So one exmple for your Burke whining about CBA idea, and it's a player that everyone that's ever watched hockey knew before July 1st was going to end up in NYR anyways.

Therefore Burke's moral code has had no real effect on this team so far. Not sure why people cry about it. It's not like we've missed several UFAs each season.

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I think if we can find a good goalie it will help immensely.

Burke has to do right and find room for guys like Kadri and Frattin as everyday regulars and use MacA, Kullemin and a few others to get some other pieces.

We need more grit. I would be a fan of bringing in Kenopka as our fourth line centre and maybe Prust as well. Add them to Brown and that is pretty good. Find new homes for Komisarek and Armstrong. Get our top pic in the line up and see what comes to them at the trade deadline.

We have some depth at D and a few depth forwards. Not sure that will get a top forward but you never know.

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Who among us thinks Duchene won't cost Burke the 5th overall, and likely Kadri as well? Are we still going there?

Mixed feelings...
Colorado would hang up the phone, there would be no discussion.

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Colorado would hang up the phone, there would be no discussion.


Show me a reasonable offer...

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You know what they say about hindsight. Plus Lombardi wasn't a UFA.

So one exmple for your Burke whining about CBA idea, and it's a player that everyone that's ever watched hockey knew before July 1st was going to end up in NYR anyways.

Therefore Burke's moral code has had no real effect on this team so far. Not sure why people cry about it. It's not like we've missed several UFAs each season.
Lombardis salary takes up 3.5mil of cap space. Regardless, I'd rather pay 7.5-8mil for Richards then 4.75mil for Connolly.

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